• Nebula Finalists 2017

    From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 6 14:38:16 2025
    2017: The UK staggers towards Brexit like a drunk searching in dense
    fog for an open pub, the first Murderbot novel is published, and
    an extrasolar comet is seen traversing the Solar System.

    Which 2017 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
    All the Birds in the Sky by Charlie Jane Anders
    Borderline by Mishell Baker
    Everfair by Nisi Shawl
    Ninefox Gambit by Yoon Ha Lee
    The Obelisk Gate by N. K. Jemisin

    All but the Anders (which I own but bounced off of).

    Which 2017 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
    Every Heart a Doorway by Seanan McGuire
    A Taste of Honey by Kai Ashante Wilson
    Runtime by S. B. Divya
    The Ballad of Black Tom by Victor LaValle
    The Dream-Quest of Vellitt Boe by Kij Johnson
    The Liar by John P. Murphy

    All but the Murphy.

    Which 2017 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
    The Long Fall Up by William Ledbetter
    Blood Grains Speak Through Memories by Jason Sanford
    Sooner or Later Everything Falls Into the Sea by Sarah Pinsker
    The Jewel and Her Lapidary by Fran Wilde
    The Orangery by Bonnie Jo Stufflebeam
    You'll Surely Drown Here If You Stay by Alyssa Wong

    The Pinsker, the Wilde, and the Stufflebeam.

    Which 2017 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
    Seasons of Glass and Iron by Amal El-Mohtar
    A Fist of Permutations in Lightning and Wildflowers by Alyssa Wong
    Our Talons Can Crush Galaxies by Brooke Bolander
    Sabbath Wine by Barbara Krasnoff
    Things with Beards by Sam J. Miller
    This Is Not a Wardrobe Door by A. Merc Rustad
    Welcome to the Medical Clinic at the Interplanetary Relay
    Station | Hours Since the Last Patient Death: 0 by Caroline M. Yoachim

    Just the Bolander.


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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Mon Jan 6 11:07:53 2025
    In article <vlgpso$3i6$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

    2017: The UK staggers towards Brexit like a drunk searching in dense
    fog for an open pub, the first Murderbot novel is published, and
    an extrasolar comet is seen traversing the Solar System.

    Which 2017 Nebula Finalist

    The best I can tell, NONE of the nominees (the few first published in
    F&SF could be an exception).

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  • From Garrett Wollman@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Mon Jan 6 19:57:42 2025
    In article <vlgpso$3i6$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

    Which 2017 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
    All the Birds in the Sky by Charlie Jane Anders
    Borderline by Mishell Baker
    Everfair by Nisi Shawl
    Ninefox Gambit by Yoon Ha Lee
    The Obelisk Gate by N. K. Jemisin

    Three of those titles were up for Hugos in 2017, which was the first
    year that I actually bought a membership to a Worldcon.[1] I bought
    Ninefox Gambit earlier in the year, on somenoday's -- maybe even
    James's -- recommendation, and I actually carried it with my to
    Helsinki, but never finished it. I still have my voter's packet, and
    I notice in retrospect that Jemisin('s publisher) only provided an
    excerpt.

    Which 2017 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
    Every Heart a Doorway by Seanan McGuire
    A Taste of Honey by Kai Ashante Wilson
    Runtime by S. B. Divya
    The Ballad of Black Tom by Victor LaValle
    The Dream-Quest of Vellitt Boe by Kij Johnson
    The Liar by John P. Murphy

    Four of these were also on the Hugo shortlist. I have been meaning to
    read the McGuire for, ummm, seven years now. (The way I've always
    done the Hugo reading is to start with the shorter stuff, because the
    voter packet comes out so close to the deadline that there's no way I
    could read more than one unfamiliar novel in that time. So I tend to
    make it all the way through the short stories and then get stuck.)

    Which 2017 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
    The Long Fall Up by William Ledbetter
    Blood Grains Speak Through Memories by Jason Sanford
    Sooner or Later Everything Falls Into the Sea by Sarah Pinsker
    The Jewel and Her Lapidary by Fran Wilde
    The Orangery by Bonnie Jo Stufflebeam
    You'll Surely Drown Here If You Stay by Alyssa Wong

    Less overlap with the Hugo list in this category, only the Wilde and
    the Wong. I loved the Wilde, I don't remember the Wong.

    Which 2017 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
    Seasons of Glass and Iron by Amal El-Mohtar
    A Fist of Permutations in Lightning and Wildflowers by Alyssa Wong
    Our Talons Can Crush Galaxies by Brooke Bolander
    Sabbath Wine by Barbara Krasnoff
    Things with Beards by Sam J. Miller
    This Is Not a Wardrobe Door by A. Merc Rustad
    Welcome to the Medical Clinic at the Interplanetary Relay
    Station | Hours Since the Last Patient Death: 0 by Caroline M. Yoachim

    El-Mohtar, Bolander, and Wong were all on the Hugo list, and I must
    have read them but I don't recall them.

    -GAWollman

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  • From Garrett Wollman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 6 20:02:04 2025
    In article <vlhcjm$mta$1@usenet.csail.mit.edu>, I wrote:

    Three of those titles were up for Hugos in 2017, which was the first
    year that I actually bought a membership to a Worldcon.[1]

    Missing footnote:

    [1] This was a not-quite-last-minute decision. 2017 was the centenary
    of Finland's independence, and the Finnish state provided support to
    bring numerous itinerant international events to the country. I went
    to the World Figure Skating Championships in March of that year, and
    when I later learned that the Worldcon was in practically the same
    place (almost across the street from the train station at the arena) I
    felt comfortable enough with the travel arrangements I had made in
    March to commit to going back in August. I did not buy the membership
    with the intent of voting in the Hugos and was pleasantly surprised to
    learn about the voter packet.

    -GAWollman

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    my employers. | - Graydon Saunders, _A Succession of Bad Days_ (2015)

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to Garrett Wollman on Mon Jan 6 20:23:19 2025
    In article <vlhcjm$mta$1@usenet.csail.mit.edu>,
    Garrett Wollman <wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> wrote:
    In article <vlgpso$3i6$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

    Which 2017 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
    All the Birds in the Sky by Charlie Jane Anders
    Borderline by Mishell Baker
    Everfair by Nisi Shawl
    Ninefox Gambit by Yoon Ha Lee
    The Obelisk Gate by N. K. Jemisin

    Three of those titles were up for Hugos in 2017, which was the first
    year that I actually bought a membership to a Worldcon.[1] I bought
    Ninefox Gambit earlier in the year, on somenoday's -- maybe even
    James's -- recommendation, and I actually carried it with my to
    Helsinki, but never finished it. I still have my voter's packet, and
    I notice in retrospect that Jemisin('s publisher) only provided an
    excerpt.

    I believe Orbit only ever provides exerpts, which would be mildly
    disappointing except they always give me full ARCs.

    Which 2017 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
    Every Heart a Doorway by Seanan McGuire
    A Taste of Honey by Kai Ashante Wilson
    Runtime by S. B. Divya
    The Ballad of Black Tom by Victor LaValle
    The Dream-Quest of Vellitt Boe by Kij Johnson
    The Liar by John P. Murphy

    Four of these were also on the Hugo shortlist. I have been meaning to
    read the McGuire for, ummm, seven years now. (The way I've always
    done the Hugo reading is to start with the shorter stuff, because the
    voter packet comes out so close to the deadline that there's no way I
    could read more than one unfamiliar novel in that time. So I tend to
    make it all the way through the short stories and then get stuck.)

    Ah, I never thought of starting with the short stuff.

    Is 2017 the year Tor dot com started utterly dominating the novella
    awards?
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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to Garrett Wollman on Mon Jan 6 22:04:13 2025
    Garrett Wollman <wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> wrote:
    [1] This was a not-quite-last-minute decision. 2017 was the centenary
    of Finland's independence, and the Finnish state provided support to
    bring numerous itinerant international events to the country. I went
    to the World Figure Skating Championships in March of that year, and
    when I later learned that the Worldcon was in practically the same
    place (almost across the street from the train station at the arena) I
    felt comfortable enough with the travel arrangements I had made in
    March to commit to going back in August. I did not buy the membership
    with the intent of voting in the Hugos and was pleasantly surprised to
    learn about the voter packet.

    I had no idea about it! I did talk to a lot of people, many Chinese but
    some not, who had come to Worldcon in part because it was also an
    opportunity to check out the Finnish heavy metal music community.
    --scott
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  • From Titus G@21:1/5 to Garrett Wollman on Tue Jan 7 16:48:30 2025
    On 7/01/25 08:57, Garrett Wollman wrote:
    In article <vlgpso$3i6$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

    snip
    Which 2017 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
    Every Heart a Doorway by Seanan McGuire
    snip
    I have been meaning to
    read the McGuire for, ummm, seven years now.

    I wouldn't bother. It was rather empty of ideas and emotion despite
    being about loss and yearning in damaged children. 2 stars.

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