• Re: Sinfest

    From Mad Hamish@21:1/5 to Nicoll on Sun Jan 5 21:36:03 2025
    On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:04:33 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
    Nicoll) wrote:



    * Not so much that I am good at them but because I am punctual.
    It is amazing how much more useful a person who is present is
    over someone who is absent.

    I've known a few people where I think they were less use when they
    were there

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to petertrei@gmail.com on Wed Jan 1 16:50:43 2025
    In article <vl3qlo$2rkt2$1@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    If you can get that much of a coherent plot out of Sinfest, you're
    doing better than most - lets remember that this plot arc started
    in Alice's Wonderland.

    For those who don't know:

    Sinfest is a webcomic (sinfest.xyz). It started around 2000, and
    for the first decade was a cute and very fun slice-of-life comic,
    with a clean and enjoyable art style. Around 2010 the brain worms
    struck the author/artist, and it has turned into an increasingly
    deranged polemic, starting with second-wave radical feminism,
    TERF, SWERF, anti-gay, anti-woke, anti-DEI, and now, pure quill >anti-semitism, all while maintaining the same cutesy art style.

    There's a sub on reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/sinfest/
    which has been following this train wreck of dumpster fires,
    with sort of horrified fascination.

    It's not unheard of for comic artists to go a bit funny as they
    age. Lynn Johnston, Neal Adams, and of course Kitchener's own
    Dave Sim come to mind. But Sinfest's creator is a pretty extreme
    example.

    The author seems to be healthy so perhaps we will find out
    what's after the TERF > Nazi progression.



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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Wed Jan 1 17:04:33 2025
    In article <vl3rp3$n5c$1@reader2.panix.com>,
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <vl3qlo$2rkt2$1@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    If you can get that much of a coherent plot out of Sinfest, you're
    doing better than most - lets remember that this plot arc started
    in Alice's Wonderland.

    For those who don't know:

    Sinfest is a webcomic (sinfest.xyz). It started around 2000, and
    for the first decade was a cute and very fun slice-of-life comic,
    with a clean and enjoyable art style. Around 2010 the brain worms
    struck the author/artist, and it has turned into an increasingly
    deranged polemic, starting with second-wave radical feminism,
    TERF, SWERF, anti-gay, anti-woke, anti-DEI, and now, pure quill >>anti-semitism, all while maintaining the same cutesy art style.

    There's a sub on reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/sinfest/
    which has been following this train wreck of dumpster fires,
    with sort of horrified fascination.

    It's not unheard of for comic artists to go a bit funny as they
    age. Lynn Johnston, Neal Adams, and of course Kitchener's own
    Dave Sim come to mind. But Sinfest's creator is a pretty extreme
    example.

    The author seems to be healthy so perhaps we will find out
    what's after the TERF > Nazi progression.

    The whole creator working in isolation goes batshit crazy and
    starts smearing excement on the walls career path is one of the
    reason I work in theatre, as that's a context where I have to
    cooperatively interact with a wide range of people.

    The other reason is I had a terrible am dram experience in 2016
    and I wanted to see if the issue was me or them. Thus far, I
    get to do all the theatre jobs* (or the ones I want to do) while
    that other group has cancelled shows and moved to ever smaller
    venues. Kind of ambigious results, really.

    * Not so much that I am good at them but because I am punctual.
    It is amazing how much more useful a person who is present is
    over someone who is absent.
    --
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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Cryptoengineer on Wed Jan 1 12:54:50 2025
    On 1/1/25 11:56, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    On 1/1/2025 11:50 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    In article <vl3qlo$2rkt2$1@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer  <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    If you can get that much of a coherent plot out of Sinfest, you're
    doing better than most - lets remember that this plot arc started
    in Alice's Wonderland.

    For those who don't know:

    Sinfest is a webcomic (sinfest.xyz). It started around 2000, and
    for the first decade was a cute and very fun slice-of-life comic,
    with a clean and enjoyable art style. Around 2010 the brain worms
    struck the author/artist, and it has turned into an increasingly
    deranged polemic, starting with second-wave radical feminism,
    TERF, SWERF, anti-gay, anti-woke, anti-DEI, and now, pure quill
    anti-semitism, all while maintaining the same cutesy art style.

    There's a sub on reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/sinfest/
    which has been following this train wreck of dumpster fires,
    with sort of horrified fascination.

    It's not unheard of for comic artists to go a bit funny as they
    age. Lynn Johnston, Neal Adams, and of course Kitchener's own
    Dave Sim come to mind. But Sinfest's creator is a pretty extreme
    example.

    If people really care, the pinned comment at the top of the sub
    reddit goes into the artist's descent into madness in detail.

    The most common theory is that he had a girl who left him, and
    it broke him.


    The author seems to be healthy so perhaps we will find out
    what's after the TERF > Nazi progression.

    I don't know - the Nazi/antisemite space seems to be a
    strange attractor out of which its hard to escape.

    pt

    Look at the state of Israel which was founded to
    escape Anti-Semites and how they treat the other semites
    which include the Palestinians. Brutalized by the 3rd Reich
    they now brutalize their semitic cousins.So they learned
    bad lessons from the NAZI which they now repeat. And
    become immersed in the space of continuing conflict.

    It should be called the Unholy Land where demons
    seem to have possessed humans since ancient times repeating
    lies about people very little different from each other.

    I don't know if the Artist is mad or suffering
    some lesion-producing illness of his brain but he
    persists in his folly despite societal disapproval.
    I have read the story from the beginning to see the
    stuff I like but he has withdrawn from the storylines
    he had established and for example never returned to
    the pup, the cat and himself as their slave.
    I hope for his recovery.

    bliss - the hobbler

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Cryptoengineer on Wed Jan 1 23:37:57 2025
    On Wed, 1 Jan 2025, Cryptoengineer wrote:

    I don't know - the Nazi/antisemite space seems to be a
    strange attractor out of which its hard to escape.

    I like it! They are peculiar people, but they have their own distinct culture which we must respect and treat on equal terms with our own. For instance, I learned from a christian nazi once, that Jesus being a jew was not a problem, because apparently god purged Jesus of his jewishness.

    I bet you had no idea that he could do that!

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to rja.carnegie@gmail.com on Thu Jan 2 14:52:52 2025
    In article <vl6639$3c84q$1@dont-email.me>,
    Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 01/01/2025 16:50, James Nicoll wrote:
    In article <vl3qlo$2rkt2$1@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    If you can get that much of a coherent plot out of Sinfest, you're
    doing better than most - lets remember that this plot arc started
    in Alice's Wonderland.

    For those who don't know:

    Sinfest is a webcomic (sinfest.xyz). It started around 2000, and
    for the first decade was a cute and very fun slice-of-life comic,
    with a clean and enjoyable art style. Around 2010 the brain worms
    struck the author/artist, and it has turned into an increasingly
    deranged polemic, starting with second-wave radical feminism,
    TERF, SWERF, anti-gay, anti-woke, anti-DEI, and now, pure quill
    anti-semitism, all while maintaining the same cutesy art style.

    There's a sub on reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/sinfest/
    which has been following this train wreck of dumpster fires,
    with sort of horrified fascination.

    It's not unheard of for comic artists to go a bit funny as they
    age. Lynn Johnston, Neal Adams, and of course Kitchener's own
    Dave Sim come to mind. But Sinfest's creator is a pretty extreme
    example.

    The author seems to be healthy so perhaps we will find out
    what's after the TERF > Nazi progression.

    I think that again, your application of the
    word "funny" is idiosyncratic. I'm going to
    propose "go wrong" instead. And it may be
    misleading to see that as age or brain health
    related dementia typically, though I suppose
    that can be the cause.

    Perhaps we have more to say about cases of
    SFF writers. In some cases - that the signs
    were there before.


    "A bit funny" is less likely to attract lawsuits than
    phrases like "batshit insane".
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