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Lynn McGuire wrote:
Man, the TDS is strong with you !
What the fuck happened to you? One of the few that would post about
actual written SF, now heading for plonk territory.
On 1/3/2025 10:20 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 17:33:14 -0600, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/1/2025 10:25 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:18:50 -0600, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2024 10:21 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:57:50 -0600, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2024 9:54 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
2016: Juno reaches Jupiter, David Bowie dies, and American democracy >>>>>>>> contracts a terminal illness.
Which 2016 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
Uprooted by Naomi Novik
Ancillary Mercy by Ann Leckie
Raising Caine by Charles E. Gannon
The Elephants' Graveyard by Lawrence M. Schoen
The Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin
The Grace of Kings by Ken Liu
Updraft by Fran Wilde
"Ancillary Mercy" and "Raising Caine".
Trump Forever !
You mean "Musk Forever". He's running Trump now.
Nobody runs Trump. Appearances can be quite deceiving.
Putin ran Trump last time.
Just as surely as -- 100 years from now -- Putin will be listed as
President from 2017-early 2021, with a footnote clarifying that, since >>>> he could not actually hold the office, Trump held it for him, so also
Musk will be listed as President from 2025-early 2029, with the same
footnote.
The only real question is: how much did Musk pay Putin to acquire
whatever it was Putin on Trump? What it was is much less important.
There is also some concern that, if the House takes as long to
organize in 2025 as it did in 2023, particularly the second attempt
(which produced last year's Speaker), the certification of the
election will have to be postponed.
Now, I have no doubt that by, say, July, the House will have a Speaker >>>> again. But what happens if Trump is not certified by Jan 20? Will he
still be able to be sworn in as the elected President?
My guess is not -- and when Biden/Harris' term ends, I would think the >>>> Presidential Succession Act would kick in. Since there would be no
Speaker of the House (if there were, we would find just how quickly a
Presidential election can be certified if everyone tries hard enough), >>>> next up would the President Pro Tempore of the Senate.
Since, apparently, the Constitution does not specify that the
President Pro Tempore must be a Senator, perhaps it would be prudent,
if the House is still in disarray and certification seems unlikely, to >>>> elect Trump President Pro Tempore. He did, after all, win the election >>>> -- and installing him in the Oval Office should help pacify his rabid
followers (compared to what they are likely to get up to if anyone
else is placed there).
If the Senate, due to long tradition, just can't make a non-Senator
President Pro Tempore, then they should still change from the current
holder of the office -- Patty Murray. She's a fine Senator (being from >>>> Washington State she could hardly be anthing else) but imagine MAGAs
reaction if she were to be installed in the Oval Office!
Exciting times, indeed!
Man, the TDS is strong with you !
Sorry, it is MAGA that is deranged by Trump.
And, since you didn't notice, I clearly stated that Trump won the
election. This is about Certification and Inauguration, and how to get
Trump sworn in regardless of how messed up the House is.
And Mike Johnson was just re-elected Speaker Of The House.
On 12/31/2024 10:21 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
You mean "Musk Forever". He's running Trump now.
Nobody runs Trump. Appearances can be quite deceiving.
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2024 10:21 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
You mean "Musk Forever". He's running Trump now.
Nobody runs Trump. Appearances can be quite deceiving.
Might be true. The problem with Trump is that his opinions seem to be
those of the last person he spoke with, So he'll seem to agree with
some member of his cabinet but then a week later be wildly in the
opposite direction. It's a hell of a way to run a railroad.
On 4 Jan 2025 22:22:05 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2024 10:21 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
=20
You mean "Musk Forever". He's running Trump now.
Nobody runs Trump. Appearances can be quite deceiving.
Might be true. The problem with Trump is that his opinions seem to be >>those of the last person he spoke with, So he'll seem to agree with
some member of his cabinet but then a week later be wildly in the
opposite direction. It's a hell of a way to run a railroad.
=46ortunately, he is so ineffective that it doesn't really matter what
he says. Or attempts. And I don't expect that to change.
2016: Juno reaches Jupiter, David Bowie dies, and American democracy contracts a terminal illness.
Which 2016 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
Uprooted by Naomi Novik
Ancillary Mercy by Ann Leckie
Raising Caine by Charles E. Gannon
The Elephants' Graveyard by Lawrence M. Schoen
The Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin
The Grace of Kings by Ken Liu
Updraft by Fran Wilde
The Novik, the Leckie, the Jemisin, and the Wilde.
Which 2016 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
Which 2016 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
Ancillary Mercy by Ann Leckie
Which 2016 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
Our Lady of the Open Road by Sarah Pinsker
James Nicoll wrote:
snip.Which 2016 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
Ancillary Mercy by Ann Leckie
I have read and will continue to read any SF she puts out.
Other than that, not that I recall.
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On 4 Jan 2025 22:22:05 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2024 10:21 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
=20
You mean "Musk Forever". He's running Trump now.
Nobody runs Trump. Appearances can be quite deceiving.
Might be true. The problem with Trump is that his opinions seem to be >>>those of the last person he spoke with, So he'll seem to agree with
some member of his cabinet but then a week later be wildly in the >>>opposite direction. It's a hell of a way to run a railroad.
=46ortunately, he is so ineffective that it doesn't really matter what
he says. Or attempts. And I don't expect that to change.
Not always. He succeeded in eliminating most of the state department,
which was his specific aim and one he succeeded at. He seemed to have
the notion that he could conduct diplomacy everywhere personally, and >unfortunately no man has enough time for that let alone skill. So we
are left with skeleton staffs in some embassies which may be an adventure
if you find yourself needing help abroad.
On 1/5/2025 11:32 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On 4 Jan 2025 22:22:05 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2024 10:21 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
You mean "Musk Forever". He's running Trump now.
Nobody runs Trump. Appearances can be quite deceiving.
Might be true. The problem with Trump is that his opinions seem to be
those of the last person he spoke with, So he'll seem to agree with
some member of his cabinet but then a week later be wildly in the
opposite direction. It's a hell of a way to run a railroad.
Fortunately, he is so ineffective that it doesn't really matter what
he says. Or attempts. And I don't expect that to change.
He was ineffective last time.
This time, he's surrounded by a lot of smart, effective people
who see him as the means to enact their agendas.
Its going to be a weird four years.
Next up: Jan 6
I've seen reports of planned demonstrations. Let's hope Biden ensures tight-enough security to prevent any intrusions.
And show the Republicans how a /real/ President protects critical
events.
On 12/30/2024 9:54 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
2016: Juno reaches Jupiter, David Bowie dies, and American democracy
contracts a terminal illness.
Which 2016 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
Uprooted by Naomi Novik
Ancillary Mercy by Ann Leckie
Raising Caine by Charles E. Gannon
The Elephants' Graveyard by Lawrence M. Schoen
The Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin
The Grace of Kings by Ken Liu
Updraft by Fran Wilde
"Ancillary Mercy" and "Raising Caine".
Trump Forever !
On 12/31/2024 10:21 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:57:50 -0600, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2024 9:54 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
2016: Juno reaches Jupiter, David Bowie dies, and American democracy
contracts a terminal illness.
Which 2016 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
Uprooted by Naomi Novik
Ancillary Mercy by Ann Leckie
Raising Caine by Charles E. Gannon
The Elephants' Graveyard by Lawrence M. Schoen
The Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin
The Grace of Kings by Ken Liu
Updraft by Fran Wilde
"Ancillary Mercy" and "Raising Caine".
Trump Forever !
You mean "Musk Forever". He's running Trump now.
Nobody runs Trump. Appearances can be quite deceiving.
On 1/1/2025 10:25 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:18:50 -0600, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2024 10:21 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:57:50 -0600, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2024 9:54 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
2016: Juno reaches Jupiter, David Bowie dies, and American democracy >>>>>> contracts a terminal illness.
Which 2016 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
Uprooted by Naomi Novik
Ancillary Mercy by Ann Leckie
Raising Caine by Charles E. Gannon
The Elephants' Graveyard by Lawrence M. Schoen
The Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin
The Grace of Kings by Ken Liu
Updraft by Fran Wilde
"Ancillary Mercy" and "Raising Caine".
Trump Forever !
You mean "Musk Forever". He's running Trump now.
Nobody runs Trump. Appearances can be quite deceiving.
Putin ran Trump last time.
Just as surely as -- 100 years from now -- Putin will be listed as
President from 2017-early 2021, with a footnote clarifying that, since
he could not actually hold the office, Trump held it for him, so also
Musk will be listed as President from 2025-early 2029, with the same
footnote.
The only real question is: how much did Musk pay Putin to acquire
whatever it was Putin on Trump? What it was is much less important.
There is also some concern that, if the House takes as long to
organize in 2025 as it did in 2023, particularly the second attempt
(which produced last year's Speaker), the certification of the
election will have to be postponed.
Now, I have no doubt that by, say, July, the House will have a Speaker
again. But what happens if Trump is not certified by Jan 20? Will he
still be able to be sworn in as the elected President?
My guess is not -- and when Biden/Harris' term ends, I would think the
Presidential Succession Act would kick in. Since there would be no
Speaker of the House (if there were, we would find just how quickly a
Presidential election can be certified if everyone tries hard enough),
next up would the President Pro Tempore of the Senate.
Since, apparently, the Constitution does not specify that the
President Pro Tempore must be a Senator, perhaps it would be prudent,
if the House is still in disarray and certification seems unlikely, to
elect Trump President Pro Tempore. He did, after all, win the election
-- and installing him in the Oval Office should help pacify his rabid
followers (compared to what they are likely to get up to if anyone
else is placed there).
If the Senate, due to long tradition, just can't make a non-Senator
President Pro Tempore, then they should still change from the current
holder of the office -- Patty Murray. She's a fine Senator (being from
Washington State she could hardly be anthing else) but imagine MAGAs
reaction if she were to be installed in the Oval Office!
Exciting times, indeed!
Man, the TDS is strong with you !
Man, the TDS is strong with you !