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    From D@21:1/5 to Cryptoengineer on Sat Dec 14 23:35:19 2024
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    On Sat, 14 Dec 2024, Cryptoengineer wrote:

    On 12/14/2024 4:37 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 12/14/24 09:54, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    On 12/14/2024 12:31 AM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    “NASA is hiding crucial details about asteroids that could THREATEN
    Earth, warns senior SETI Institute astronomer”

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-12-12-nasa-hiding-details-about-
    asteroids-threatening-earth.html

    “On Dec. 3, the small asteroid COWECP5 streaked into Earth's atmosphere
    and exploded in a fiery display above Siberia. While the event was
    dramatic, it was ultimately harmless because the space rock was only 70 >>>> centimeters across and disintegrated before it could cause any damage.” >>>>
    "If the asteroid had been larger, it could have caused significant damage >>>> on the ground. And if it had been a true "city killer," like the
    400-meter-wide asteroid that astronomers feared would hit Earth on
    Christmas Day in 2004, seven hours would not have been enough time to
    evacuate millions of people or devise a defense strategy."

    "Every day, Earth is bombarded by an estimated 100 tons of space debris, >>>> most of which burns up harmlessly in the atmosphere. But every now and >>>> then, something much larger and more dangerous appears."

    "Astronomers have identified 36,765 NEOs, including more than 11,000 that >>>> are over 140 meters across and 868 that are larger than a kilometer. Out >>>> of those NEOs, 1,714 are considered potentially hazardous, meaning
    there's a non-zero chance they could collide with Earth."

    Um, 400 meter diameter is a quarter mile diameter.   That would have left
    a big mark somewhere.

    NASA isn't 'hiding' a damn thing. This is just another example of the
    crap style of 'journalism' found on the internet - the success of a
    journalist is measured by how clickworthy the title is.

    pt

        100 years back we did not worry about asteroid impacts
    and we should not worry about it now. Either we get a very bad
    one  or a survivable one.  Can we prevent it yet?  I think
    we fall a bit short there yet but maybe soon in the meantime
    we have lots of stuff to worry about and to act upon like
    Global overheating and the endless wars of the hyper-
    acquisitive.That is what billionaires have the lobes for.

    The DART mission in 2021 demonstrated a substantial redirection
    of a 160 meter asteroid.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Asteroid_Redirection_Test#

    So, yes, we *can* do something about it.

    pt


    Let's take a page from the Enchiridion. Worry about what you can control,
    and leave the rest. So for all of us who are not rocket engineers, or responsible for NASAs budget, we can just peacefully get on with our work.
    =)

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  • From Charles Packer@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 15 08:12:34 2024
    On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 23:35:19 +0100, D wrote:

    On Sat, 14 Dec 2024, Cryptoengineer wrote:

    On 12/14/2024 4:37 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 12/14/24 09:54, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    On 12/14/2024 12:31 AM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    “NASA is hiding crucial details about asteroids that could THREATEN >>>>> Earth, warns senior SETI Institute astronomer”

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-12-12-nasa-hiding-details-about-
    asteroids-threatening-earth.html

    “On Dec. 3, the small asteroid COWECP5 streaked into Earth's
    atmosphere and exploded in a fiery display above Siberia. While the
    event was dramatic, it was ultimately harmless because the space
    rock was only 70 centimeters across and disintegrated before it
    could cause any damage.”

    "If the asteroid had been larger, it could have caused significant
    damage on the ground. And if it had been a true "city killer," like
    the 400-meter-wide asteroid that astronomers feared would hit Earth
    on Christmas Day in 2004, seven hours would not have been enough
    time to evacuate millions of people or devise a defense strategy."

    ...
    Um, 400 meter diameter is a quarter mile diameter.   That would have >>>>> left a big mark somewhere.

    NASA isn't 'hiding' a damn thing. This is just another example of the
    crap style of 'journalism' found on the internet - the success of a
    journalist is measured by how clickworthy the title is.

    pt

        100 years back we did not worry about asteroid impacts
    and we should not worry about it now. Either we get a very bad one  or
    a survivable one.  Can we prevent it yet?  I think we fall a bit short >>> there yet but maybe soon in the meantime we have lots of stuff to
    worry about and to act upon like Global overheating and the endless
    wars of the hyper- acquisitive.That is what billionaires have the
    lobes for.

    The DART mission in 2021 demonstrated a substantial redirection of a
    160 meter asteroid.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Asteroid_Redirection_Test#

    So, yes, we *can* do something about it.

    pt


    Let's take a page from the Enchiridion. Worry about what you can
    control, and leave the rest. So for all of us who are not rocket
    engineers, or responsible for NASAs budget, we can just peacefully get
    on with our work.
    =)

    ...And wonder about the complete fiction of the statement in
    the article referring to "the 400-meter-wide asteroid that astronomers
    feared would hit Earth on Christmas Day in 2004."

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Titus G on Sun Dec 15 11:12:16 2024
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    On Sun, 15 Dec 2024, Titus G wrote:

    On 15/12/24 12:48, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    “NASA is hiding crucial details about asteroids that could THREATEN
    Earth, warns senior SETI Institute astronomer”

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-12-12-nasa-hiding-details-about-asteroids-threatening-earth.html

    You sure are gullible.

    "Natural News (formerly NewsTarget, which is now a separate sister site) >> is a far-right, anti-vaccination conspiracy theory and fake news website >> known for promoting alternative medicine, pseudoscience, disinformation, >> and far-right extremism.[1][9] The website began publishing articles in >> 2008 and is based in the United States.[1][6]

    Gullible? No. Just better informed than everybody else except for D and Fourbricks.


    This is incorrect. I am super well informed. You are not, ergo... I win
    yet again!

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Cryptoengineer on Sun Dec 15 19:05:23 2024
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    On Sun, 15 Dec 2024, Cryptoengineer wrote:

    On 12/14/2024 5:35 PM, D wrote:


    On Sat, 14 Dec 2024, Cryptoengineer wrote:

    On 12/14/2024 4:37 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 12/14/24 09:54, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    On 12/14/2024 12:31 AM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    “NASA is hiding crucial details about asteroids that could THREATEN >>>>>> Earth, warns senior SETI Institute astronomer”

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-12-12-nasa-hiding-details-about-
    asteroids-threatening-earth.html

    “On Dec. 3, the small asteroid COWECP5 streaked into Earth's atmosphere
    and exploded in a fiery display above Siberia. While the event was >>>>>> dramatic, it was ultimately harmless because the space rock was only 70 >>>>>> centimeters across and disintegrated before it could cause any damage.”

    "If the asteroid had been larger, it could have caused significant >>>>>> damage on the ground. And if it had been a true "city killer," like the >>>>>> 400-meter-wide asteroid that astronomers feared would hit Earth on >>>>>> Christmas Day in 2004, seven hours would not have been enough time to >>>>>> evacuate millions of people or devise a defense strategy."

    "Every day, Earth is bombarded by an estimated 100 tons of space
    debris, most of which burns up harmlessly in the atmosphere. But every >>>>>> now and then, something much larger and more dangerous appears."

    "Astronomers have identified 36,765 NEOs, including more than 11,000 >>>>>> that are over 140 meters across and 868 that are larger than a
    kilometer. Out of those NEOs, 1,714 are considered potentially
    hazardous, meaning there's a non-zero chance they could collide with >>>>>> Earth."

    Um, 400 meter diameter is a quarter mile diameter.   That would have >>>>>> left a big mark somewhere.

    NASA isn't 'hiding' a damn thing. This is just another example of the >>>>> crap style of 'journalism' found on the internet - the success of a
    journalist is measured by how clickworthy the title is.

    pt

         100 years back we did not worry about asteroid impacts
    and we should not worry about it now. Either we get a very bad
    one  or a survivable one.  Can we prevent it yet?  I think
    we fall a bit short there yet but maybe soon in the meantime
    we have lots of stuff to worry about and to act upon like
    Global overheating and the endless wars of the hyper-
    acquisitive.That is what billionaires have the lobes for.

    The DART mission in 2021 demonstrated a substantial redirection
    of a 160 meter asteroid.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Asteroid_Redirection_Test#

    So, yes, we *can* do something about it.

    pt


    Let's take a page from the Enchiridion. Worry about what you can control,
    and leave the rest. So for all of us who are not rocket engineers, or
    responsible for NASAs budget, we can just peacefully get on with our work. >> =)

    Indeed. However, as technology progresses, we have more and more things
    that come under our control, and being concerned about them becomes
    rational.

    This is the truth!

    Examples: Genetic engineering, planetary defence, ethics of AI
    systems.

    I am active in none of those fields, so I do not worry about it. I worry
    about privacy and the shrinking freedom of speech. That is probably what
    comes closest to my day job and where I might exert some minimum amount of influence.

    Speculating about how individuals and societies deal with the
    arrival of new capabilities is the bread and butter of science
    fiction.

    Sadly I am not (yet) a science fiction author, but I do enjoy speculating
    and philosophizing about such topics. It does bring me pleasure though,
    and not one iota of fear or worry, except the privacy issues.

    I am a very long term optimistic person, and it is my firm belief that
    human ingenuity and science will overcome all in the end. Sure, there will
    be bumps in the road, but cometh the hour, cometh the man(kind)! =)

    pt

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