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“Climate Change over the past 4000 Years” https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/12/03/climate-change-over-the-past-4000-years/
“Many paleoclimatologists, archeologists, and historians agree that there is
a correspondence between the level of solar activity and climate. They also agree that humans do better in warmer times than in colder times. It is time for the “consensus” to face up to the historical and archeological facts.”
Very shocking, climate is variable over the years and it is mostly caused by Sol’s variability. And people can grow more food in warmer times and live easier.
Lynn
On 12/3/24 17:01, Lynn McGuire wrote:
“Climate Change over the past 4000 Years”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/12/03/climate-change-over-the-
past-4000-years/
“Many paleoclimatologists, archeologists, and historians agree that there >> is a correspondence between the level of solar activity and climate. They
also agree that humans do better in warmer times than in colder times. It
is time for the “consensus” to face up to the historical and archeological
facts.”
Very shocking, climate is variable over the years and it is mostly caused
by Sol’s variability. And people can grow more food in warmer times and >> live easier.
Lynn
No wonder you read Speculative Fiction. You lack
apparently the "lobes" for science and wish to push the blame
off on Sol Invitus.
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As as person who prizes the work done by the real climate
scientist i find your argument absurd. And your estimate of the
time the planet has been warming ridiculous. The Earth has been
warming since the last Ice Age.
Crabs, lobsters and other sea food do very well with
sea water until it is heated to boiling. You do not even have
to heat the coral near boiling and the coral is dying. Sea mammals
like Whales are suffering from nutritional insufficiency because
the food they depend on is dying.
Humans can handle a bit of warmth though personally
beyond 70 degrees F makes me very uncomfortable but in areas
that have been hot but not too hot for humans people are dying
from the heat. Certain crops will not grow well in higher heat.
The soil where not flooded and being washed away is drying out.
So I believe that human activity has contributed to the
release of gases which prevent the atmosphere from cooling
properly. Among those are Methane and Carbon Dioxide.
When the glaciers of California or anywhere else
start growing again I would if then alive proclaim
victory over the Climate Crisis present and impending.
bliss the hobbler(bad ankle)
D wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
On 12/3/2024 7:59 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
On 12/3/24 17:01, Lynn McGuire wrote:
???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???
I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors. Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short >>>> and long cycles of variability.
You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.
Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate science >> reduced to physics.
Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up. I want to know what you thought at the time you wrote the above.
William Hyde
On 12/5/24 11:26, William Hyde wrote:
D wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
On 12/3/2024 7:59 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
On 12/3/24 17:01, Lynn McGuire wrote:
???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???
I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow >>>>> reactors. Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short >>>>> and long cycles of variability.
You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.
Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.
Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up. I want to know what you thought at the time >> you wrote the above.
William Hyde
The United Nations Environment Program reports more than 20 of the
world’s 72 seagrass species are on the decline. As a result, an
estimated 7 percent of these habitats are lost each year.
In the western Atlantic, some eelgrass meadows have been reduced
by more than 90 percent in the last 100 years, according to The
Nature Conservancy, an environmental nonprofit that works to protect lands and waters around the world.
Now, rising sea surface temperatures caused by global
warming are pushing the plant to the brink of extinction.
<https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/12/seagrass-is-fantastic-at-carbon-capture-and-its-at-risk-of-extinction/>
I saw something on TV about attempts by the flightless
two-legged shore birds called humans, were making to spread
eel grass. I missed the part about eel grass being
close to extinction.
Without the meadows of eel grass will the eel thrive?
Will there be no more Japaneses style bar-be-qued Eel?
But aside from that, that is a common story in these days of
something that has been doing us good, quietly working in the
background to make our existence more tenable and we are
destroying its habitat.
I may put it under some climate skeptics (yes there are
those still who blinded by a fossil fuel income) cannot see
past the end of their noses.
bliss - stewing in my own juice
D wrote:
On Thu, 5 Dec 2024, William Hyde wrote:
D wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
On 12/3/2024 7:59 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
On 12/3/24 17:01, Lynn McGuire wrote:
???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???
I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow >>>>>> reactors. Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short >>>>>> and long cycles of variability.
You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.
Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.
Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up. I want to know what you thought at the
time you wrote the above.
William Hyde
That models can be whipped up at will, based on the directions of the
people who are funding it. Climate gate is an excellent example of the
corruption in the field. It was probably just the tip of the iceberg.
That is not an answer to the question I asked.
Try again.
William Hyde
D wrote:
On Thu, 5 Dec 2024, William Hyde wrote:
D wrote:
On Thu, 5 Dec 2024, William Hyde wrote:
D wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
On 12/3/2024 7:59 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
On 12/3/24 17:01, Lynn McGuire wrote:
???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???
I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow >>>>>>>> reactors. Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both >>>>>>>> short
and long cycles of variability.
You have zero climate science background, so your experience with >>>>>>> non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.
Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate >>>>>> science reduced to physics.
Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up. I want to know what you thought at the >>>>> time you wrote the above.
William Hyde
That models can be whipped up at will, based on the directions of the
people who are funding it. Climate gate is an excellent example of the >>>> corruption in the field. It was probably just the tip of the iceberg.
That is not an answer to the question I asked.
Try again.
William Hyde
Incorrect. If you want another answer, please rephrase the question.
The question is quite clear, as is your refusal to answer it, which speaks volumes about you.
Any honest debater learns the other side's case. Trolls on the other hand ...
William Hyde
James Nicoll wrote:
In article <vitflv$1tu05$1@dont-email.me>,
William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
D wrote:You do understand you're dealing with a politer Terry Austin, right? Or
On Thu, 5 Dec 2024, William Hyde wrote:
D wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
On 12/3/2024 7:59 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
On 12/3/24 17:01, Lynn McGuire wrote:
???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???
I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow >>>>>>>> reactors. Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both >>>>>>>> short
and long cycles of variability.
You have zero climate science background, so your experience with >>>>>>> non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.
Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate >>>>>> science reduced to physics.
Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up. I want to know what you thought at the >>>>> time you wrote the above.
William Hyde
That models can be whipped up at will, based on the directions of the
people who are funding it. Climate gate is an excellent example of the >>>> corruption in the field. It was probably just the tip of the iceberg.
That is not an answer to the question I asked.
Try again.
perhaps Ted Holden.
You're talking to someone who spent tens of thousands of lines debating Ted. You could never shake Ted from his core beliefs, but if you beat him over the head often enough he sometimes, sometimes, would actually learn something.
It was a huge waste of time, but once in a while explaining things to Ted would clarify my teaching ability. In one discussion his errors prompted me to make a simple model of Venus' atmosphere, useless for research purposes but illustrative as a teaching tool.
I stopped talking to Terry in trollish mode long ago. And of course in recent years he had no other mode.
D has miles to go to reach those levels.
William Hyde