On 12/2/24 13:12, Lynn McGuire wrote:

“JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/jk-rowling-details-cost-of-speaking-out- on-trans-issue-blasts-nyt-rewriting-of-history

““Harry Potter” author and female rights activist JK Rowling blasted The
New York Times on Monday for the “rewriting of history” about
transgender activists’ vicious tactics, while Rowling outlined just how much she and others have suffered for speaking out for girls and women.”

"Rowling posted a screenshot of a Times article that suggests trans
activists are going to have to moderate their “unsparing criticism” of those who disagree with them, ever since Democrats lost the 2024
election and Americans are increasingly disagreeing with the trans agenda."

"“The rewriting of history begins,” Rowling wrote. “Opponents of gender ideology haven’t merely ‘endured unsparing criticism’. I haven’t simply
been told I ‘betrayed real feminism’ or received a few book-burning videos.”"

"“I’ve been sent thousands of threats of murder, rape and violence,” the
author outlined. “A trans woman posted my family’s home address with a bomb-making guide. My eldest child was targeted by a prominent trans
activist who attempted to doxx her and ended up doxxing the wrong young woman.”"

Incredibly sad.

Lynn

Speaking out for girls and women but not transgender girls to say nothing of Transgender men and boys. Transgender women can speak
for themselves. She and Janciee Raymond got the wrong idea about the
whole matter. TG Activists can do a lot of damage because their is
No ideology of Tansgender. Read the anciect60s tome by Harry
Benjamin "The TransSexual Phenomenon". Spelling is inventive.

The children are speaking of their experience and their
parents are listening. no surgery can yet change anyone from
male to female or female to male. It can make people more
comfortable in their bodies.

As far as I know no one is doing transgender surgery on
children under the age of consent. No school is taking children
and switching their gender before they go home as the great
satan called Trump has claimed.
One of the prominent books banned "Gender Queer" is a
beautiful graphic novel with the art done by the subject/s own
sister. It is about `er experience, not very sexual and worth
the read. That is just my humble opinion but others concur.
I read mine by request of the San Francisco Public
Library which had to borrow it from another system. That is
the funniest thing i ever heard of. SF is not TG heaven but
closer than Amarillo, Tx. So finding that SF had to go
elsewhere for the volume makes me giddy at the oversight.

bliss



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On 12/3/24 08:40, Paul S Person wrote:

On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 15:12:09 -0600, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

“JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT
‘Rewriting Of History’”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/jk-rowling-details-cost-of-speaking-out-on-trans-issue-blasts-nyt-rewriting-of-history

““Harry Potter” author and female rights activist JK Rowling blasted The
New York Times on Monday for the “rewriting of history” about
transgender activists’ vicious tactics, while Rowling outlined just how
much she and others have suffered for speaking out for girls and women.” >>
"Rowling posted a screenshot of a Times article that suggests trans
activists are going to have to moderate their “unsparing criticism” of >> those who disagree with them, ever since Democrats lost the 2024
election and Americans are increasingly disagreeing with the trans agenda." >>
"“The rewriting of history begins,” Rowling wrote. “Opponents of gender
ideology haven’t merely ‘endured unsparing criticism’. I haven’t simply
been told I ‘betrayed real feminism’ or received a few book-burning
videos.”"

"“I’ve been sent thousands of threats of murder, rape and violence,” the
author outlined. “A trans woman posted my family’s home address with a >> bomb-making guide. My eldest child was targeted by a prominent trans
activist who attempted to doxx her and ended up doxxing the wrong young
woman.”"

Incredibly sad.

As I have noted, wingnuts exist on /all/ sides.

They certainly do. On the other hand Rowling casts
doubt on their humanity and questions the existence of the
transgender condition. Many very good writers have held
retrograde views of the rest of humanity. Creatures of the
times when the color or lack of color of skin meant more
than the character of the person wearing that skin and
those who believe that women are only accessories to men.

What is strange is that the obvious solution -- four teams/leagues
instead of two -- does not appear to have occurred to anyone.

I doubt me very much that there are enough transgender
athletes to form two teams whether of transgender women or men.
Transgender people are around 0.01% of the total population. I
know one who is 88 and she is not seeking to be athletic as
much as to simply stay alive and active.
Also people who are unsympathetic to transgender issues
simply have never known a person who is transgender, as used to
be the case with LBGTQ+ people. Delaware elected a transgender
woman to the Congress whereupon one MAGA woman began to make an
issue around this post-operative transgender persons use of the
appropriate toilets in the building. You know that post-operative
means that the Gender Reassignment Surgery has been completed and
there is no threatening penis nor any of the external male anatomy.

Actually a lot of statistics around the issue are simply speculative as are rumors of crimes done by Transgender people
in bathrooms belonging to any sex. Criminal men have been free
to enter women's toilets despite it being a crime.

A lot of the transgender student athletes seeking to
participate are prepubertal which means that the bones and muscles
have not gone the changes from youthful to adult physique. This
obviates one of the arguments made by Rowlings and other TERF
advocates about strength. The arguments have been confused by
the very rare intersexual athletes who won some competitions at
the highest level with perhaps no knowledge of their own
conditions.
I recently finished reading an old book, Matt Ridley's
"Genome". I learned a bit about older genetic research which
included mention of a condition in which a female genome would
result in the formation of a more or less complete but perhaps
sterile male body. Genome is a fair read of what sort of stuff
had been learned before the turn of the century.

And nanobots are active!
Nanorobot hand made of DNA grabs viruses for diagnostics and
blocks cell entry... <https://phys.org/news/2024-11-nanorobot-dna-viruses-diagnostics-blocks.html>
When they trick it out with the tools to repair DNA we
will have SF made real.


bliss - hobbling along

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On 12/3/24 11:17, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes:

On 12/3/24 08:40, Paul S Person wrote:

Actually a lot of statistics around the issue are simply speculative as >> are rumors of crimes done by Transgender people
in bathrooms belonging to any sex. Criminal men have been free
to enter women's toilets despite it being a crime.

Most of it is either political firewood (hatred/division) or
religious nutters pushing their vision of morality on the rest
of the country.

Back in the 80's, before they remodelled the facilities, one
would routinely find ladies in the men's room at the Hollywood
Bowl (just to avoid the hour-long lines for the few stalls
available in the ladies). Nobody complained. Nobody was
arrested. Nobody tried to make it illegal.

I can remember seeing women in the restrooms of several sports stadiums
e.g. Stanford and Candlestick. I can also remember seeing a whole line
of men peeing under the railing and down the slope below the Stanford
stadium when there weren't enough restrooms.

No one seemed to care.

Unisex lavatories aren't uncommon in Europe and have been
for decades.

Much ado about nothing. Speak out in public, expect criticism.

Doxing et. al. is illegal and abhorrent regardless of the target or the reason behind it.

OTOH, verbal and written criticism should be expected when any
high-profile individual airs their opinion(s) on a controversial topic.

I don't think the debate about people with Y chromosomes competing
against XX people is over yet. Consider that Serena Williams (I think)
who was #1 in women's tennis said that the #200 man in men's tennis
would beat her.

I have no idea what the hormone therapy a trans female takes does to the
muscle mass and strength she formerly possessed as a male.


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Dave Scruggs
Senior Software Engineer - Lockheed Martin, et. al (mostly Retired)
Captain - Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)
Board of Directors - Boulder Creek Fire Protection District (What was I thinking?)

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On 12/4/24 13:11, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 12/4/2024 10:42 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> writes:

On 12/3/24 11:17, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes:

On 12/3/24 08:40, Paul S Person wrote:


    Actually a lot of statistics around the issue are simply
speculative as
are rumors of crimes done by Transgender people
in bathrooms belonging to any sex. Criminal men have been free
to enter women's toilets despite it being a crime.

Most of it is either political firewood (hatred/division) or
religious nutters pushing their vision of morality on the rest
of the country.

Back in the 80's, before they remodelled the facilities, one
would routinely find ladies in the men's room at the Hollywood
Bowl (just to avoid the hour-long lines for the few stalls
available in the ladies).  Nobody complained.  Nobody was
arrested.  Nobody tried to make it illegal.

I can remember seeing women in the restrooms of several sports stadiums
e.g. Stanford and Candlestick. I can also remember seeing a whole line
of men peeing under the railing and down the slope below the Stanford
stadium when there weren't enough restrooms.

No one seemed to care.

Unisex lavatories aren't uncommon in Europe and have been
for decades.

Much ado about nothing.  Speak out in public, expect criticism.

Doxing et. al. is illegal and abhorrent regardless of the target or the >>>> reason behind it.

OTOH, verbal and written criticism should be expected when any
high-profile individual airs their opinion(s) on a controversial topic. >>>

I don't think the debate about people with Y chromosomes competing
against XX people is over yet. Consider that Serena Williams (I think)
who was #1 in women's tennis said that the #200 man in men's tennis
would beat her.

I do remember the Billy Jean King match with Bobby Riggs.

Bobby Riggs was 26 years older than Billy Jean King so it was not an
even match.
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis)

Lynn

Riggs took the chalenge under the impression that Billy Jean
would be easy to beat.

bliss

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On 12/14/24 16:46, Robert Carnegie wrote:

On 04/12/2024 03:54, BCFD 36 wrote:

On 12/3/24 11:17, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes:

On 12/3/24 08:40, Paul S Person wrote:


    Actually a lot of statistics around the issue are simply
speculative as
are rumors of crimes done by Transgender people
in bathrooms belonging to any sex. Criminal men have been free
to enter women's toilets despite it being a crime.

Most of it is either political firewood (hatred/division) or
religious nutters pushing their vision of morality on the rest
of the country.

Back in the 80's, before they remodelled the facilities, one
would routinely find ladies in the men's room at the Hollywood
Bowl (just to avoid the hour-long lines for the few stalls
available in the ladies).  Nobody complained.  Nobody was
arrested.  Nobody tried to make it illegal.

I can remember seeing women in the restrooms of several sports
stadiums e.g. Stanford and Candlestick. I can also remember seeing a
whole line of men peeing under the railing and down the slope below
the Stanford stadium when there weren't enough restrooms.

No one seemed to care.

Unisex lavatories aren't uncommon in Europe and have been
for decades.

Much ado about nothing.  Speak out in public, expect criticism.

Doxing et. al. is illegal and abhorrent regardless of the target or the
reason behind it.

OTOH, verbal and written criticism should be expected when any
high-profile individual airs their opinion(s) on a controversial topic.

I don't think the debate about people with Y chromosomes competing
against XX people is over yet. Consider that Serena Williams (I think)
who was #1 in women's tennis said that the #200 man in men's tennis
would beat her.

I have no idea what the hormone therapy a trans female takes does to
the muscle mass and strength she formerly possessed as a male.

I don't have detailed knowledge either.
But I think that regulating sports participation
ought to be left to the agencies that regulate
sports participation.  Along with figuring out
what the purpose of sport is anyway.

In some countries - including mine - sport
has been used to glorify the government of
the day, which claims that athletes' successes
are demonstrations of the value of the
government's policy.  But presumably it's
good for other things.

Hormone replacement therapy:
For adults it slowly may reduce muscle
mass and strength though if well-nourished bones
may remain strong. Many were athletic and trained
for sport as a way of gaining acceptance in
the school or workplace.

The most serious transgender adults
go on to castration and vagina/vulva/plasty
surgeries as did Rene Richards the Tennis
player quite some years ago. She was not
top seeded before male or as a woman
after surgery.
Some will have bad reactions to the
castration in terms of loss muscle mass which
they do not mind but loss of muscle strength
and/or endurance is depressing.


The Purpose of sports competitions is Sports.
The purpose of sport is to harness
our human competitive energies and encourage
the young to excell at these physical
endeavors. Ancient rituals enacted over and
over again for fun. Do not think the American
version of Football is a good thing with all
those concussions.
We were a better nation when we all
preoccupied with Baseball or Basketball or
grades.

A healthy mind is not quite a healthy
body but it helps.

bliss - the hobbler was a nurse years and met
a few transgender people.



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