• Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL

    From suzeeq@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 26 06:57:35 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to everyone??

    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually see/read/disagree
    with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go to such measures.

    Yep, it was blank.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to suzeeq@imbris.com on Sun May 26 18:55:39 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    In article <v2vf4e$qfc8$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to everyone??

    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually see/read/disagree
    with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go to such
    measures.

    Yep, it was blank.

    URL in the wroong place.
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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Tue May 28 02:22:20 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to everyone??

    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually see/read/disagree
    with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go to such
    measures.

    Yep, it was blank.


    No, it’s not

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL It Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28 PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn’t playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing himself. RTD
    has become ideologically compromised. It’s hard to reconcile that it’s the same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such bangers as Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen Earth and Journey’s End. The “message” first, everything else secondary or not at
    all. This isn’t Doctor Who. The hiatus can’t come quickly enough

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 28 07:48:54 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    On 5/28/2024 2:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to everyone?? >>>
    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually see/read/disagree
    with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go to such
    measures.

    Yep, it was blank.


    No, it’s not

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL It Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28 PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn’t playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing himself. RTD has become ideologically compromised. It’s hard to reconcile that it’s the same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such bangers as Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen Earth and Journey’s End. The “message” first, everything else secondary or not at all. This isn’t Doctor Who. The hiatus can’t come quickly enough

    Thanks, I couldn't see that in his post.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Tue May 28 08:08:50 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 2:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to everyone?? >>>>
    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually see/read/disagree >>>> with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go to such
    measures.

    Yep, it was blank.


    No, it’s not

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL It >> Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28 PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn’t playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing himself. RTD >> has become ideologically compromised. It’s hard to reconcile that it’s the >> same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such bangers as
    Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen Earth and
    Journey’s End. The “message” first, everything else secondary or not at >> all. This isn’t Doctor Who. The hiatus can’t come quickly enough

    Thanks, I couldn't see that in his post.


    Weird

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 28 08:52:52 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    On 5/28/2024 8:08 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 2:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to everyone?? >>>>>
    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually see/read/disagree >>>>> with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go to such >>>>> measures.

    Yep, it was blank.


    No, it’s not

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL It >>> Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28 PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn’t playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing himself. RTD >>> has become ideologically compromised. It’s hard to reconcile that it’s the
    same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such bangers as >>> Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen Earth and
    Journey’s End. The “message” first, everything else secondary or not at >>> all. This isn’t Doctor Who. The hiatus can’t come quickly enough

    Thanks, I couldn't see that in his post.


    Weird

    Someone mentioned it was in the headers, I don't read headers. If you've
    got something to say, you put it in the body of the post.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to anim8rfsk@cox.net on Tue May 28 13:02:38 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    In article
    <707707518.738580846.093511.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to everyone?? >>
    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually see/read/disagree
    with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go to such
    measures.

    Yep, it was blank.


    No, it掇 not

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL It Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28?PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn't playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing himself. RTD
    has become ideologically compromised. It's hard to reconcile that it's the same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such bangers as Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen Earth and Journey's End. The 'message' first, everything else secondary or not at
    all. This isn't Doctor Who. The hiatus can't come quickly enough

    I see that the they/them who is playing the Doctor now is blaming the
    fans for the fact that ratings are cratering. He says they're "-ists" and "-phobes" and that's why the show is tanking. It's the fans' fault, not the fact
    that we now have a Doctor who prances around in a dress and frets about pronouns.

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue May 28 19:25:13 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    On Tue, 28 May 2024 13:02:38 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article
    <707707518.738580846.093511.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to everyone?? >> >>
    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually see/read/disagree >> >> with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go to such
    measures.

    Yep, it was blank.


    No, it? not

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL It >> Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28?PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn't playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing himself. RTD
    has become ideologically compromised. It's hard to reconcile that it's the >> same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such bangers as
    Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen Earth and
    Journey's End. The 'message' first, everything else secondary or not at
    all. This isn't Doctor Who. The hiatus can't come quickly enough

    I see that the they/them who is playing the Doctor now is blaming the
    fans for the fact that ratings are cratering.

    That's correct. The people that have been watching DR WHO for years
    are the fans. If they don't like what the show does they stop
    watching. Still a fan of the show but just not watching what they are
    making at the moment. Change what they are making to something the
    fans like and they will likely return.
    The problem they are having is (and they stated this was their
    purpose) they are making the show for a wider audience that wasn't
    interested in the show. Since they weren't interested they aren't
    watching. Maybe they will eventually, maybe they won't, but for now
    those non-fans aren't watching and many of the fans aren't watching.
    It's a winning decision by Disney and the BBC to focus on the message
    (DEI is great) instead of putting the story first.

    He says they're "-ists" and "-phobes" and that's why the show is tanking. It's the fans' fault, not the fact
    that we now have a Doctor who prances around in a dress and frets about >pronouns.

    It's the same thing that the Star Wars people are saying as to why
    their shows aren't doing well. Everything wrong with the viewer ship
    numbers is blamed on toxic fans. No one steps up to say maybe the
    stories just aren't that good and that's why people aren't watching.
    ANDOR shows that if they write a good story people will watch. Movies
    like ALIENS and even TOMB RAIDER show that if they write a good story
    with a female lead people will watch.

    So it isn't the fact that people hate women as lead characters or
    shows or movies that include lesbian/gay characters. It's that people
    hate boring stories. Stories that don't go any where or move them
    emotionally. Stories that may have no action in them. Give people
    stories that they can get involved in and people will watch. Why
    Disney and the BBC don't admit that this is what they need and aren't
    giving the viewers is something I will never understand. Iger keeps
    saying he doesn't have an agenda after which he will point out how
    Disney is focused on inclusion and DEI above all else (sure sounds
    like an agenda to me.) Apparently they are focused on it above making
    money too.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com on Tue May 28 23:52:09 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sdrwho, uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <29pc5jp3p8s94kg49cf5ukgbedrp64frlt@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 28 May 2024 13:02:38 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article >><707707518.738580846.093511.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to everyone?? >>> >>
    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually see/read/disagree >>> >> with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go to such >>> >> measures.

    Yep, it was blank.


    No, it? not

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL It >>> Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28?PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn't playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing himself. RTD >>> has become ideologically compromised. It's hard to reconcile that it's the >>> same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such bangers as >>> Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen Earth and
    Journey's End. The 'message' first, everything else secondary or not at
    all. This isn't Doctor Who. The hiatus can't come quickly enough

    I see that the they/them who is playing the Doctor now is blaming the
    fans for the fact that ratings are cratering.

    That's correct. The people that have been watching DR WHO for years
    are the fans. If they don't like what the show does they stop
    watching. Still a fan of the show but just not watching what they are
    making at the moment. Change what they are making to something the
    fans like and they will likely return.
    The problem they are having is (and they stated this was their
    purpose) they are making the show for a wider audience that wasn't
    interested in the show. Since they weren't interested they aren't
    watching. Maybe they will eventually, maybe they won't, but for now
    those non-fans aren't watching and many of the fans aren't watching.
    It's a winning decision by Disney and the BBC to focus on the message
    (DEI is great) instead of putting the story first.

    He says they're "-ists" and "-phobes" and that's why the show is
    tanking. It's the fans' fault, not the fact
    that we now have a Doctor who prances around in a dress and frets about >>pronouns.

    It's the same thing that the Star Wars people are saying as to why
    their shows aren't doing well. Everything wrong with the viewer ship
    numbers is blamed on toxic fans. No one steps up to say maybe the
    stories just aren't that good and that's why people aren't watching.
    ANDOR shows that if they write a good story people will watch. Movies
    like ALIENS and even TOMB RAIDER show that if they write a good story
    with a female lead people will watch.

    So it isn't the fact that people hate women as lead characters or
    shows or movies that include lesbian/gay characters. It's that people
    hate boring stories. Stories that don't go any where or move them >emotionally. Stories that may have no action in them. Give people
    stories that they can get involved in and people will watch. Why
    Disney and the BBC don't admit that this is what they need and aren't
    giving the viewers is something I will never understand. Iger keeps
    saying he doesn't have an agenda after which he will point out how
    Disney is focused on inclusion and DEI above all else (sure sounds
    like an agenda to me.) Apparently they are focused on it above making
    money too.

    As I was saying about dissent.
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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Tue May 28 18:43:15 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 8:08 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 2:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to everyone?? >>>>>>
    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually see/read/disagree >>>>>> with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go to such >>>>>> measures.

    Yep, it was blank.


    No, it’s not

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL It >>>> Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28 PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn’t playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing himself. RTD >>>> has become ideologically compromised. It’s hard to reconcile that it’s the
    same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such bangers as >>>> Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen Earth and
    Journey’s End. The “message” first, everything else secondary or not at >>>> all. This isn’t Doctor Who. The hiatus can’t come quickly enough

    Thanks, I couldn't see that in his post.


    Weird

    Someone mentioned it was in the headers, I don't read headers. If you've
    got something to say, you put it in the body of the post.


    It just appeared as a normal post to me. I didn’t look at the headers. I copied everything I saw, including the senders name.

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue May 28 18:43:15 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article
    <707707518.738580846.093511.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to everyone?? >>>>
    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually see/read/disagree >>>> with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go to such
    measures.

    Yep, it was blank.


    No, it掇 not

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL It >> Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28?PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn't playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing himself. RTD
    has become ideologically compromised. It's hard to reconcile that it's the >> same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such bangers as
    Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen Earth and
    Journey's End. The 'message' first, everything else secondary or not at
    all. This isn't Doctor Who. The hiatus can't come quickly enough

    I see that the they/them who is playing the Doctor now is blaming the
    fans for the fact that ratings are cratering. He says they're "-ists" and "-phobes" and that's why the show is tanking. It's the fans' fault, not the fact
    that we now have a Doctor who prances around in a dress and frets about pronouns.


    If they should be worried about anything, it’s that the best episode they’ve done so far is the one they weren’t in.

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 28 21:26:17 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    On 5/28/2024 6:43 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 8:08 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 2:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to everyone??

    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually see/read/disagree >>>>>>> with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go to such >>>>>>> measures.

    Yep, it was blank.


    No, it’s not

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL It
    Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28 PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn’t playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing himself. RTD
    has become ideologically compromised. It’s hard to reconcile that it’s the
    same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such bangers as >>>>> Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen Earth and >>>>> Journey’s End. The “message” first, everything else secondary or not at
    all. This isn’t Doctor Who. The hiatus can’t come quickly enough

    Thanks, I couldn't see that in his post.


    Weird

    Someone mentioned it was in the headers, I don't read headers. If you've
    got something to say, you put it in the body of the post.


    It just appeared as a normal post to me. I didn’t look at the headers. I copied everything I saw, including the senders name.

    That is weird.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Tue May 28 21:41:23 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    On 5/28/2024 9:26 PM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 6:43 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 8:08 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 2:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to
    everyone??

    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually
    see/read/disagree
    with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go to >>>>>>>> such
    measures.

    Yep, it was blank.


    No, it’s not

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN
    AWFUL It
    Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28 PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn’t playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing
    himself. RTD
    has become ideologically compromised. It’s hard to reconcile that >>>>>> it’s the
    same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such
    bangers as
    Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen Earth and >>>>>> Journey’s End. The “message” first, everything else secondary or >>>>>> not at
    all. This isn’t Doctor Who. The hiatus can’t come quickly enough >>>>>>
    Thanks, I couldn't see that in his post.


    Weird

    Someone mentioned it was in the headers, I don't read headers. If you've >>> got something to say, you put it in the body of the post.


    It just appeared as a normal post to me. I didn’t look at the headers. I >> copied everything I saw, including the senders name.

    That is weird.

    Not if you remember that Skynet hates him. :P

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    dirty old man.

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Wed May 29 07:01:04 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    On 5/28/2024 9:41 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 9:26 PM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 6:43 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 8:08 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 2:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to >>>>>>>>> everyone??

    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually
    see/read/disagree
    with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go >>>>>>>>> to such
    measures.

    Yep, it was blank.


    No, it’s not

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN >>>>>>> AWFUL It
    Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28 PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn’t playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing
    himself. RTD
    has become ideologically compromised. It’s hard to reconcile
    that it’s the
    same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such
    bangers as
    Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen Earth >>>>>>> and
    Journey’s End. The “message” first, everything else secondary or >>>>>>> not at
    all. This isn’t Doctor Who. The hiatus can’t come quickly enough >>>>>>>
    Thanks, I couldn't see that in his post.


    Weird

    Someone mentioned it was in the headers, I don't read headers. If
    you've
    got something to say, you put it in the body of the post.


    It just appeared as a normal post to me. I didn’t look at the headers. I >>> copied everything I saw, including the senders name.

    That is weird.

    Not if you remember that Skynet hates him.  :P

    It must not hate him that much, if he can get/read a message that others
    can't.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Wed May 29 07:47:40 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    On 5/29/2024 7:01 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 9:41 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 9:26 PM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 6:43 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 8:08 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 2:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to >>>>>>>>>> everyone??

    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually
    see/read/disagree
    with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go >>>>>>>>>> to such
    measures.

    Yep, it was blank.


    No, it’s not

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So
    DAMN AWFUL It
    Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28 PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn’t playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing
    himself. RTD
    has become ideologically compromised. It’s hard to reconcile
    that it’s the
    same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such >>>>>>>> bangers as
    Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen
    Earth and
    Journey’s End. The “message” first, everything else secondary or >>>>>>>> not at
    all. This isn’t Doctor Who. The hiatus can’t come quickly enough >>>>>>>>
    Thanks, I couldn't see that in his post.


    Weird

    Someone mentioned it was in the headers, I don't read headers. If
    you've
    got something to say, you put it in the body of the post.


    It just appeared as a normal post to me. I didn’t look at the
    headers. I
    copied everything I saw, including the senders name.

    That is weird.

    Not if you remember that Skynet hates him.  :P

    It must not hate him that much, if he can get/read a message that others can't.

    *WHOOSH*

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Wed May 29 08:37:47 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    On 5/29/2024 7:47 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 5/29/2024 7:01 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 9:41 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 9:26 PM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 6:43 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 8:08 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 2:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK to >>>>>>>>>>> everyone??

    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually
    see/read/disagree
    with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to go >>>>>>>>>>> to such
    measures.

    Yep, it was blank.


    No, it’s not

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So >>>>>>>>> DAMN AWFUL It
    Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28 PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn’t playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing >>>>>>>>> himself. RTD
    has become ideologically compromised. It’s hard to reconcile >>>>>>>>> that it’s the
    same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such >>>>>>>>> bangers as
    Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen
    Earth and
    Journey’s End. The “message” first, everything else secondary >>>>>>>>> or not at
    all. This isn’t Doctor Who. The hiatus can’t come quickly enough >>>>>>>>>
    Thanks, I couldn't see that in his post.


    Weird

    Someone mentioned it was in the headers, I don't read headers. If
    you've
    got something to say, you put it in the body of the post.


    It just appeared as a normal post to me. I didn’t look at the
    headers. I
    copied everything I saw, including the senders name.

    That is weird.

    Not if you remember that Skynet hates him.  :P

    It must not hate him that much, if he can get/read a message that
    others can't.

    *WHOOSH*

    Huh?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to shawn on Wed May 29 11:55:51 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    In article <29pc5jp3p8s94kg49cf5ukgbedrp64frlt@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 28 May 2024 13:02:38 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article ><707707518.738580846.093511.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL
    It Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28?PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn't playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing himself.
    RTD has become ideologically compromised. It's hard to reconcile that
    it's the same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such
    bangers as Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen
    Earth and Journey's End. The 'message' first, everything else secondary
    or not at all. This isn't Doctor Who. The hiatus can't come quickly
    enough.

    I see that the they/them who is playing the Doctor now is blaming the
    fans for the fact that ratings are cratering.

    That's correct. The people that have been watching DR WHO for years
    are the fans. If they don't like what the show does they stop
    watching. Still a fan of the show but just not watching what they are
    making at the moment. Change what they are making to something the
    fans like and they will likely return.
    The problem they are having is (and they stated this was their
    purpose) they are making the show for a wider audience that wasn't
    interested in the show. Since they weren't interested they aren't
    watching. Maybe they will eventually, maybe they won't, but for now
    those non-fans aren't watching and many of the fans aren't watching.
    It's a winning decision by Disney and the BBC to focus on the message
    (DEI is great) instead of putting the story first.

    He says they're "-ists" and "-phobes" and that's why the show is tanking. >It's the fans' fault, not the fact that we now have a Doctor who prances >around in a dress and frets about pronouns.

    It's the same thing that the Star Wars people are saying as to why
    their shows aren't doing well. Everything wrong with the viewer ship
    numbers is blamed on toxic fans. No one steps up to say maybe the
    stories just aren't that good and that's why people aren't watching.
    ANDOR shows that if they write a good story people will watch. Movies
    like ALIENS and even TOMB RAIDER show that if they write a good story
    with a female lead people will watch.

    Don't forget TERMINATOR. Ripley is great and all, but I've always
    thought Sarah Connor was the most iconic female action hero. She had the biggest transformative arc, from serving burgers at Big Buns to mother
    of the resistance.

    So it isn't the fact that people hate women as lead characters or
    shows or movies that include lesbian/gay characters. It's that people
    hate boring stories. Stories that don't go any where or move them emotionally. Stories that may have no action in them. Give people
    stories that they can get involved in and people will watch. Why
    Disney and the BBC don't admit that this is what they need and aren't
    giving the viewers is something I will never understand. Iger keeps
    saying he doesn't have an agenda after which he will point out how
    Disney is focused on inclusion and DEI above all else (sure sounds
    like an agenda to me.) Apparently they are focused on it above making
    money too.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed May 29 12:41:46 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <29pc5jp3p8s94kg49cf5ukgbedrp64frlt@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 28 May 2024 13:02:38 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article
    <707707518.738580846.093511.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL >>>> It Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28?PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn't playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing himself.
    RTD has become ideologically compromised. It's hard to reconcile that
    it's the same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such >>>> bangers as Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen >>>> Earth and Journey's End. The 'message' first, everything else secondary >>>> or not at all. This isn't Doctor Who. The hiatus can't come quickly
    enough.

    I see that the they/them who is playing the Doctor now is blaming the
    fans for the fact that ratings are cratering.

    That's correct. The people that have been watching DR WHO for years
    are the fans. If they don't like what the show does they stop
    watching. Still a fan of the show but just not watching what they are
    making at the moment. Change what they are making to something the
    fans like and they will likely return.
    The problem they are having is (and they stated this was their
    purpose) they are making the show for a wider audience that wasn't
    interested in the show. Since they weren't interested they aren't
    watching. Maybe they will eventually, maybe they won't, but for now
    those non-fans aren't watching and many of the fans aren't watching.
    It's a winning decision by Disney and the BBC to focus on the message
    (DEI is great) instead of putting the story first.

    He says they're "-ists" and "-phobes" and that's why the show is tanking. >>> It's the fans' fault, not the fact that we now have a Doctor who prances >>> around in a dress and frets about pronouns.

    It's the same thing that the Star Wars people are saying as to why
    their shows aren't doing well. Everything wrong with the viewer ship
    numbers is blamed on toxic fans. No one steps up to say maybe the
    stories just aren't that good and that's why people aren't watching.
    ANDOR shows that if they write a good story people will watch. Movies
    like ALIENS and even TOMB RAIDER show that if they write a good story
    with a female lead people will watch.

    Don't forget TERMINATOR. Ripley is great and all, but I've always
    thought Sarah Connor was the most iconic female action hero. She had the biggest transformative arc, from serving burgers at Big Buns to mother
    of the resistance.

    Jennifer Lawrence is the movies first female action hero. Just ask her.






    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to anim8rfsk@cox.net on Wed May 29 19:53:38 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    On May 29, 2024 at 12:41:46 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <29pc5jp3p8s94kg49cf5ukgbedrp64frlt@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 28 May 2024 13:02:38 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article
    <707707518.738580846.093511.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL >>>>> It Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28?PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn't playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing himself. >>>>> RTD has become ideologically compromised. It's hard to reconcile that >>>>> it's the same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such >>>>> bangers as Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen >>>>> Earth and Journey's End. The 'message' first, everything else secondary >>>>> or not at all. This isn't Doctor Who. The hiatus can't come quickly >>>>> enough.

    I see that the they/them who is playing the Doctor now is blaming the >>>> fans for the fact that ratings are cratering.

    That's correct. The people that have been watching DR WHO for years
    are the fans. If they don't like what the show does they stop
    watching. Still a fan of the show but just not watching what they are
    making at the moment. Change what they are making to something the
    fans like and they will likely return.
    The problem they are having is (and they stated this was their
    purpose) they are making the show for a wider audience that wasn't
    interested in the show. Since they weren't interested they aren't
    watching. Maybe they will eventually, maybe they won't, but for now
    those non-fans aren't watching and many of the fans aren't watching.
    It's a winning decision by Disney and the BBC to focus on the message
    (DEI is great) instead of putting the story first.

    He says they're "-ists" and "-phobes" and that's why the show is tanking. >>>> It's the fans' fault, not the fact that we now have a Doctor who prances >>>> around in a dress and frets about pronouns.

    It's the same thing that the Star Wars people are saying as to why
    their shows aren't doing well. Everything wrong with the viewer ship
    numbers is blamed on toxic fans. No one steps up to say maybe the
    stories just aren't that good and that's why people aren't watching.
    ANDOR shows that if they write a good story people will watch. Movies
    like ALIENS and even TOMB RAIDER show that if they write a good story
    with a female lead people will watch.

    Don't forget TERMINATOR. Ripley is great and all, but I've always
    thought Sarah Connor was the most iconic female action hero. She had the
    biggest transformative arc, from serving burgers at Big Buns to mother
    of the resistance.

    Jennifer Lawrence is the movies first female action hero. Just ask her.

    Yes, I forgot. Reality must bend before woeness.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed May 29 19:01:39 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On May 29, 2024 at 12:41:46 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 28 May 2024 13:02:38 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >>>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL It Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28?PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn't playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing himself. >>>>>> RTD has become ideologically compromised. It's hard to reconcile that >>>>>> it's the same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such >>>>>> bangers as Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen >>>>>> Earth and Journey's End. The 'message' first, everything else secondary >>>>>> or not at all. This isn't Doctor Who. The hiatus can't come quickly >>>>>> enough.

    I see that the they/them who is playing the Doctor now is blaming the >>>>> fans for the fact that ratings are cratering.

    That's correct. The people that have been watching DR WHO for years
    are the fans. If they don't like what the show does they stop
    watching. Still a fan of the show but just not watching what they are >>>> making at the moment. Change what they are making to something the
    fans like and they will likely return.
    The problem they are having is (and they stated this was their
    purpose) they are making the show for a wider audience that wasn't
    interested in the show. Since they weren't interested they aren't
    watching. Maybe they will eventually, maybe they won't, but for now
    those non-fans aren't watching and many of the fans aren't watching.
    It's a winning decision by Disney and the BBC to focus on the message >>>> (DEI is great) instead of putting the story first.

    He says they're "-ists" and "-phobes" and that's why the show is tanking.
    It's the fans' fault, not the fact that we now have a Doctor who prances >>>>> around in a dress and frets about pronouns.

    It's the same thing that the Star Wars people are saying as to why
    their shows aren't doing well. Everything wrong with the viewer ship
    numbers is blamed on toxic fans. No one steps up to say maybe the
    stories just aren't that good and that's why people aren't watching.
    ANDOR shows that if they write a good story people will watch. Movies >>>> like ALIENS and even TOMB RAIDER show that if they write a good story >>>> with a female lead people will watch.

    Don't forget TERMINATOR. Ripley is great and all, but I've always
    thought Sarah Connor was the most iconic female action hero. She had the >>> biggest transformative arc, from serving burgers at Big Buns to mother
    of the resistance.

    Jennifer Lawrence is the movies first female action hero. Just ask her.

    Yes, I forgot. Reality must bend before woeness.

    Heh.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Thu May 30 08:25:57 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.tv

    On 5/29/2024 8:37 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 5/29/2024 7:47 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 5/29/2024 7:01 AM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 9:41 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 9:26 PM, suzeeq wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 6:43 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 8:08 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/28/2024 2:22 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 5/26/2024 3:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    Callum Williamsh wrote on 26/5/24 6:28 am:

    Is it just me .... or is Callum's message showing as BLANK >>>>>>>>>>>> to everyone??

    Sure, if I look at the Message Source, I can actually
    see/read/disagree
    with what Callum posted .... just I don't normally have to >>>>>>>>>>>> go to such
    measures.

    Yep, it was blank.


    No, it’s not

    Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So >>>>>>>>>> DAMN AWFUL It
    Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
    Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
    May 25, 2024 at 1:28 PM
    Ncuti Gatwa isn’t playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing >>>>>>>>>> himself. RTD
    has become ideologically compromised. It’s hard to reconcile >>>>>>>>>> that it’s the
    same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such >>>>>>>>>> bangers as
    Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen >>>>>>>>>> Earth and
    Journey’s End. The “message” first, everything else secondary >>>>>>>>>> or not at
    all. This isn’t Doctor Who. The hiatus can’t come quickly enough >>>>>>>>>>
    Thanks, I couldn't see that in his post.


    Weird

    Someone mentioned it was in the headers, I don't read headers. If >>>>>>> you've
    got something to say, you put it in the body of the post.


    It just appeared as a normal post to me. I didn’t look at the
    headers. I
    copied everything I saw, including the senders name.

    That is weird.

    Not if you remember that Skynet hates him.  :P

    It must not hate him that much, if he can get/read a message that
    others can't.

    *WHOOSH*

    Huh?

    You are assuming that the message Skynet is reserving for Anim is a
    pleasant one.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)