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  • Re: [NEWS] New 'Starship Troopers' adaptation movie in development

    From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 12:05:35 2025
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    On 3/14/2025 6:15 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <vr29di$24f1l$1@dont-email.me>,
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 5:48 PM, Your Name wrote:

    Based on the original 1959 book rather than a "remake" of the 1997 movie. >>>

    ...
    ...


    <https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1938194-starship-troopers-movie- >>> district-9-chappie-neill-blomkamp>

    What made the '97 one special was Verhoeven's DNA ...any hint of which
    we are promised this new one will take great pains to jettison.



    Or they could try actually adapting the book...

    Well, indeed, I should probably withhold comment before reading it...

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 08:16:50 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.movies, alt.fan.heinlein

    On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 10:48:46 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:


    Based on the original 1959 book rather than a "remake" of the 1997 movie.



    New Starship Troopers Movie
    From District 9 & Chappie Director Neill Blomkamp in the Works
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    A new Starship Troopers movie is in the works.

    The original Starship Troopers, based on the 1959 novel by
    Robert A. Heinlein, was released in 1997. Directed by Paul
    Verhoeven, the satirical sci-fi movie stars Casper Van Dien
    as Johnny Rico, Dina Meyer as Dizzy Flores, Denise Richards
    as Carmen Ibanez, Jake Busey as Ace Levy, Neil Patrick Harris
    as Carl Jenkins, and Clancy Brown as Sergeant Zim.

    For some meaning of "satirical" unknown to me.

    Many Verhoeven films are worth not only seeing but owning on DVD.

    Some, like this one and /Katje Tippel/, may be worth seeing, but, once
    seen, need never be seen again.

    Others, whose very names I do not recall, are very bad indeed.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Your Name on Fri Mar 14 18:08:49 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.movies, alt.fan.heinlein

    On 3/14/2025 5:48 PM, Your Name wrote:

    Based on the original 1959 book rather than a "remake" of the 1997 movie.



       New Starship Troopers Movie
       From District 9 & Chappie Director Neill Blomkamp in the Works
       --------------------------------------------------------------
       A new Starship Troopers movie is in the works.

       The original Starship Troopers, based on the 1959 novel by
       Robert A. Heinlein, was released in 1997. Directed by Paul
       Verhoeven, the satirical sci-fi movie stars Casper Van Dien
       as Johnny Rico, Dina Meyer as Dizzy Flores, Denise Richards
       as Carmen Ibanez, Jake Busey as Ace Levy, Neil Patrick Harris
       as Carl Jenkins, and Clancy Brown as Sergeant Zim.

       Neill Blomkamp is now set to write and direct a new Starship
       Troopers movie, per The Hollywood Reporter, for Columbia
       Pictures.


       What do we know about the new Starship Troopers movie from
       Neill Blomkamp?
       Blomkamp's movie won't be a direct remake of the Verhoeven film;
       rather, The Hollywood Reporter reports that "the goal is to go
       back to the source material."

       Further plot details remain under wraps at this time. Blomkamp
       will also serve as a producer on the film alongside his wife,
       Terri Tatchell.

       Blomkamp made his feature film directorial debut in 2009 with
       District 9, which received four Academy Award nominations,
       including Best Picture. He followed that up with 2013's Elysium
       and 2015's Chappie before making Demonic in 2021.

       His most recent movie was 2023's Gran Turismo, which is based on
       the racing video game series developed by Polyphony Digital. He
       was also working on an Alien movie for a time that was shelved
       and ultimately canceled after Ridley Scott decided to make 2017's
       Alien: Covenant.

       A release date for the new Starship Troopers movie has not yet
       been announced.

       The original Starship Troopers, meanwhile, is currently available
       to stream on Amazon Prime Video. That movie was followed by two
       direct-to-video sequels: 2004's Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the
       Federation and 2008's Starship Troopers 3: Marauder. There have
       also been two animated movies, 2012's Starship Troopers: Invasion
       and 2017's Starship Troopers: Traitor of Mars, and other related
       media, such as television shows, video games, and more.

    <https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1938194-starship-troopers-movie- district-9-chappie-neill-blomkamp>

    What made the '97 one special was Verhoeven's DNA ...any hint of which
    we are promised this new one will take great pains to jettison.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 10:48:46 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.movies, alt.fan.heinlein

    Based on the original 1959 book rather than a "remake" of the 1997 movie.



    New Starship Troopers Movie
    From District 9 & Chappie Director Neill Blomkamp in the Works
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    A new Starship Troopers movie is in the works.

    The original Starship Troopers, based on the 1959 novel by
    Robert A. Heinlein, was released in 1997. Directed by Paul
    Verhoeven, the satirical sci-fi movie stars Casper Van Dien
    as Johnny Rico, Dina Meyer as Dizzy Flores, Denise Richards
    as Carmen Ibanez, Jake Busey as Ace Levy, Neil Patrick Harris
    as Carl Jenkins, and Clancy Brown as Sergeant Zim.

    Neill Blomkamp is now set to write and direct a new Starship
    Troopers movie, per The Hollywood Reporter, for Columbia
    Pictures.


    What do we know about the new Starship Troopers movie from
    Neill Blomkamp?
    Blomkamp's movie won't be a direct remake of the Verhoeven film;
    rather, The Hollywood Reporter reports that "the goal is to go
    back to the source material."

    Further plot details remain under wraps at this time. Blomkamp
    will also serve as a producer on the film alongside his wife,
    Terri Tatchell.

    Blomkamp made his feature film directorial debut in 2009 with
    District 9, which received four Academy Award nominations,
    including Best Picture. He followed that up with 2013's Elysium
    and 2015's Chappie before making Demonic in 2021.

    His most recent movie was 2023's Gran Turismo, which is based on
    the racing video game series developed by Polyphony Digital. He
    was also working on an Alien movie for a time that was shelved
    and ultimately canceled after Ridley Scott decided to make 2017's
    Alien: Covenant.

    A release date for the new Starship Troopers movie has not yet
    been announced.

    The original Starship Troopers, meanwhile, is currently available
    to stream on Amazon Prime Video. That movie was followed by two
    direct-to-video sequels: 2004's Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the
    Federation and 2008's Starship Troopers 3: Marauder. There have
    also been two animated movies, 2012's Starship Troopers: Invasion
    and 2017's Starship Troopers: Traitor of Mars, and other related
    media, such as television shows, video games, and more.



    <https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1938194-starship-troopers-movie-district-9-chappie-neill-blomkamp>

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Ted Nolan on Sat Mar 15 12:03:49 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.movies, alt.fan.heinlein

    On 2025-03-14 22:15:48 +0000, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan said:

    In article <vr29di$24f1l$1@dont-email.me>,
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 5:48 PM, Your Name wrote:

    Based on the original 1959 book rather than a "remake" of the 1997 movie.
    ...
    ...
    <https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1938194-starship-troopers-movie- >>> district-9-chappie-neill-blomkamp>

    What made the '97 one special was Verhoeven's DNA ...any hint of which
    we are promised this new one will take great pains to jettison.

    Or they could try actually adapting the book...

    The article does say:
    Blomkamp's movie won't be a direct remake of the Verhoeven film;
    rather, The Hollywood Reporter reports that "the goal is to go
    back to the source material."

    :-)

    How true that is and what ridiculous changes Blomkamp makes to suit his
    own ego and ideas of what it "should" be are entirely different
    questions though.

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to nobody@nowhere.com on Fri Mar 14 22:15:48 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.movies, alt.fan.heinlein

    In article <vr29di$24f1l$1@dont-email.me>,
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 3/14/2025 5:48 PM, Your Name wrote:

    Based on the original 1959 book rather than a "remake" of the 1997 movie.


    ...
    ...


    <https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1938194-starship-troopers-movie-
    district-9-chappie-neill-blomkamp>

    What made the '97 one special was Verhoeven's DNA ...any hint of which
    we are promised this new one will take great pains to jettison.



    Or they could try actually adapting the book...
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Don@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Mon Mar 31 22:36:59 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.movies, alt.fan.heinlein

    Paul S Person wrote:
    Your Name wrote:

    Based on the original 1959 book rather than a "remake" of the 1997 movie.

    New Starship Troopers Movie
    From District 9 & Chappie Director Neill Blomkamp in the Works
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    A new Starship Troopers movie is in the works.

    The original Starship Troopers, based on the 1959 novel by
    Robert A. Heinlein, was released in 1997. Directed by Paul
    Verhoeven, the satirical sci-fi movie stars Casper Van Dien
    as Johnny Rico, Dina Meyer as Dizzy Flores, Denise Richards
    as Carmen Ibanez, Jake Busey as Ace Levy, Neil Patrick Harris
    as Carl Jenkins, and Clancy Brown as Sergeant Zim.

    For some meaning of "satirical" unknown to me.

    Many Verhoeven films are worth not only seeing but owning on DVD.

    Some, like this one and /Katje Tippel/, may be worth seeing, but, once
    seen, need never be seen again.

    Others, whose very names I do not recall, are very bad indeed.

    Barsoom Postcards pokes polemic people:

    Thoughts on thirty years of memetic skirmishing over the meaning of Starship Troopers

    ...
    The debate goes something like this:

    Leftists: "You chuds are clearly too stupid to realize that
    the movie was a satire! The Terran Federation are obviously
    the bad guys! The bugs are good boys who dindu nuffin! The
    asteroid attack on Buenos Aires was clearly a false flag so
    the fascist imperalists of the Terran Federation could have
    an excuse to invade the innocent bugs and take their planet!
    You guys are too stupid to understand basic media literacy!"

    To which rightists respond, as we are wont, with memes:

    <https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ded88aa-cd05-44a8-a310-a0258c385f0b_1080x694.jpeg>
    <https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fb15ee1-31e0-4513-ac6b-3c481f944351_1067x807.jpeg>
    <https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F81eaee41-faaa-4f62-8471-966a4d8b6db9_768x381.png>
    <https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c9f190e-980c-4a5d-9399-eeafab529f94_716x562.png>
    <https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F794268f4-2ec6-4c2a-b0e0-9b68cf7c9486_640x520.jpeg>

    You might infer from this that the right is media illiterate.
    If so, you would be a midwit. What this demonstrates is, in
    fact, an effortlessly instinctive high mastery of media
    literacy, one that transcends the left’s increasingly
    ineffectual narrative control.

    The argument the left always advances in this case is that,
    because Verhoeven intended his movie as a satire of fascism,
    any use of symbolism from the movie for rightist ends is ipso
    facto a misapplication, and evidence that the rightist user
    was too stupid to understand the actual meaning of the film.

    What is actually happening is simply that the right has used
    memes to appropriate the meaning of the film, and alter it
    towards its own ends. This is fair game because this is
    precisely what Verhoeven did in the first place. Verhoeven
    didn’t so much ignore as invert the authorial intent,
    presenting a twisted version of Heinlein’s narrative in order
    to make the story say what Verhoeven wanted it to say, which
    was the opposite of what Heinlein himself was saying. In
    effect he wrapped a creative work composed in one form of
    media in a second form of media, which he used to invert the
    meaning of the original, like flipping an image upside down
    by sending the light through a lens. The right then simply
    wrapped Verhoeven’s film in a third layer of media – memes –
    and used this to invert the film’s meaning. In doing so, the
    right actually restored the original authorial intent: by
    subverting Verhoeven’s subversion, Heinlein’s intended meaning
    is once again made clear. ...

    (excerpt)

    <https://barsoom.substack.com/p/the-exact-words-of-the-text>

    Danke,

    --
    Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. https://crcomp.net/reviews.php telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. Walk humbly with thy God.
    tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' Make 1984 fiction again.

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  • From Mike Van Pelt@21:1/5 to nobody@nowhere.com on Fri Apr 4 03:55:52 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.movies, alt.fan.heinlein

    In article <vr29di$24f1l$1@dont-email.me>,
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    What made the '97 one special was Verhoeven's DNA ...any hint of which
    we are promised this new one will take great pains to jettison.

    For certain definitions of the word "special".

    I hope all traces of Verhoven's slander of Heinlein are jettisoned,
    preferrably into a black hole.
    --
    Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're nuts."
    mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out Hurricane
    KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Mike Van Pelt on Fri Apr 4 10:59:26 2025
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    On 4/3/2025 11:55 PM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
    In article <vr29di$24f1l$1@dont-email.me>,
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    What made the '97 one special was Verhoeven's DNA ...any hint of which
    we are promised this new one will take great pains to jettison.

    For certain definitions of the word "special".

    I hope all traces of Verhoeven's slander of Heinlein are jettisoned, preferably into a black hole.

    Verhoeven wasn't hired to make a Heinlein tribute. And, no, this new
    effort certainly shouldn't try to copy what he DID make...

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to moviePig on Sat Apr 5 10:35:15 2025
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    On 2025-04-04 14:59:26 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 4/3/2025 11:55 PM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
    In article <vr29di$24f1l$1@dont-email.me>,
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    What made the '97 one special was Verhoeven's DNA ...any hint of which
    we are promised this new one will take great pains to jettison.

    For certain definitions of the word "special".

    I hope all traces of Verhoeven's slander of Heinlein are jettisoned,
    preferably into a black hole.

    Verhoeven wasn't hired to make a Heinlein tribute. And, no, this new
    effort certainly shouldn't try to copy what he DID make...

    The original article did say the new version is going back to the
    source material, the original book ... but it *is* Hollyweird, so the
    people making the new movie *will* undoubtedly make all sorts of
    ridiculous changes to suit their own over-bloated egos for how they
    think it "should have" been written. :-\

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