• Re: [Overlord DVD] Disney Ready to Dump Doctor Who? Terrible Ratings Ma

    From Daniel70@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 11 00:14:39 2025
    On 8/02/2025 6:18 am, % wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1rxmz5cepg5002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    <Snip>

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    i hope they don't put hyacinth back on

    Ah!! Hyacinth!! Now you're talking!! "Bouquet" wasn't it?? ;-P
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to daniel47@eternal-september.org on Mon Feb 10 15:03:00 2025
    In article <vocu3v$17bcn$2@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
    On 8/02/2025 6:18 am, % wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1rxmz5cepg5002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    <Snip>

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    i hope they don't put hyacinth back on

    Ah!! Hyacinth!! Now you're talking!! "Bouquet" wasn't it?? ;-P
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    Ah! Yes!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 10 15:03:44 2025
    In article <qOKcnf1KMciHYTT6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 8/02/2025 6:18 am, % wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1rxmz5cepg5002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    <Snip>

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    i hope they don't put hyacinth back on

    Ah!! Hyacinth!! Now you're talking!! "Bouquet" wasn't it?? ;-P

    bucket

    Kick it!
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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to mike@xenocyte.com on Mon Feb 24 04:35:08 2025
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    In article <voilob$2e4c4$1@dont-email.me>, mike@xenocyte.com wrote:
    On 12/02/2025 09:30, Ubiquitous wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early
    episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    I believe the previous poster was referring to Pat Troughton dressing up as
    a washerwoman in The Highlanders, though it's possible they even meant Bill Hartnell in a toga in The Romans. Jon Pertwee also dressed as a female cleaner in The Green Death, though I think we're getting a bit past "one of the early episodes" by that point.

    No, he was talking about one of the first scenes of the first eps
    with Ncuti dancing at a bar.

    https://youtu.be/WkTjZ0CIIM0

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 23 09:22:50 2025
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    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 4:30:43 -0500, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early
    episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for me.

    What's wrong with that?

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Feb 24 16:34:45 2025
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    NoBody wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 4:30:43 -0500, Ubiquitous
    <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been
    snow-balled was it for me.

    What's wrong with that?

    Filth!

    Our mate Aggy would say the 15th Doctor using sexual innuendos
    like that backs up his claim that RTD is a sexual pervert and he
    is using "Doctor Who" to sexually groom people...

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to NoBody@nowhere.com on Mon Feb 24 16:39:53 2025
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    In article <7tcmrjdm7tUt6di6pjitgp34vlpq74evjq@4ax.com>,
    NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 4:30:43 -0500, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early
    episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for me.

    What's wrong with that?



    thing wrong in being Celtic.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon Feb 24 16:40:45 2025
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    In article <xn0p2fsgcbuzcx000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    NoBody wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 4:30:43 -0500, Ubiquitous
    <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been
    snow-balled was it for me.

    What's wrong with that?

    Filth!

    Our mate Aggy would say the 15th Doctor using sexual innuendos
    like that backs up his claim that RTD is a sexual pervert and he
    is using "Doctor Who" to sexually groom people...

    REal 14th! The 15th Doctor has yet to appear.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to weberm@polaris.net on Mon Feb 24 16:40:14 2025
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    In article <vpi6if$172e7$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <voilob$2e4c4$1@dont-email.me>, mike@xenocyte.com wrote:
    On 12/02/2025 09:30, Ubiquitous wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    I believe the previous poster was referring to Pat Troughton dressing up as >> a washerwoman in The Highlanders, though it's possible they even meant Bill >> Hartnell in a toga in The Romans. Jon Pertwee also dressed as a female
    cleaner in The Green Death, though I think we're getting a bit past "one of >> the early episodes" by that point.

    No, he was talking about one of the first scenes of the first eps
    with Ncuti dancing at a bar.

    https://youtu.be/WkTjZ0CIIM0


    Ah! Yes!!

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  • From john@21:1/5 to NoBody@nowhere.com on Mon Feb 24 13:04:13 2025
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    NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early
    episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>me.

    What's wrong with that?

    It's a gay sex act involving cum.

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  • From Olivia@21:1/5 to john@hamiltonhall.info on Mon Feb 24 13:20:02 2025
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    john@hamiltonhall.info wrote:
    NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>>me.

    What's wrong with that?

    It's a gay sex act involving cum.

    eeew!!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to john on Tue Feb 25 00:46:06 2025
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    In article <5296c8c0202f241f60103147004ca55f@hamiltonhall.info>,
    john <john@hamiltonhall.info> wrote:
    NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>>me.

    What's wrong with that?

    It's a gay sex act involving cum.


    Sick!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to noreplys@automwolfwellness.com on Tue Feb 25 00:46:21 2025
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    In article <0109019519cb9489-b289fbe7-cfc7-47cd-a9ac-ca622bdc3a96-000000@ap-south-1.amazonses.com>,
    Olivia <noreplys@automwolfwellness.com> wrote:
    john@hamiltonhall.info wrote:
    NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote: >>>>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>>>me.

    What's wrong with that?

    It's a gay sex act involving cum.

    eeew!!


    TRoll for you!
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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Feb 11 23:46:56 2025
    On 9/02/2025 10:34 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1tfzh8zt49003@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    <Snip>

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
    will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
    season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
    retconner!

    Well RTD is oging the way of JN-T .

    "oging"??
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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca on Tue Feb 11 10:31:53 2025
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    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
    episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
    War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
    are not happy with what they have been getting from their
    partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
    order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
    and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
    S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
    ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
    were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...

    a new partner needed?

    Possibly.

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to blueshirt@indigo.news on Tue Feb 11 10:34:28 2025
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    blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
    tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
    will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
    season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
    retconner!

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless Child
    and unwilling to undo it?

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Tue Feb 11 10:36:15 2025
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    In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
    idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own >'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been >struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.

    Is it true that cable is making a comeback, mostly because people are fed
    up with spending more for multiple streaming services?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to weberm@polaris.net on Tue Feb 11 15:38:58 2025
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    In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
    tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
    will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
    season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
    retconner!

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless Child
    and unwilling to undo it?


    Heance a new era is needed!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to weberm@polaris.net on Tue Feb 11 16:01:26 2025
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    In article <vofqpg$1r2on$3@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
    idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own >>'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been >>struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.

    Is it true that cable is making a comeback, mostly because people are fed
    up with spending more for multiple streaming services?


    Yes.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Tue Feb 11 17:24:44 2025
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    Ubiquitous wrote:

    blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
    tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but
    there will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child
    era next season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of
    guy than a retconner!

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
    Child and unwilling to undo it?

    Yes, Chris Chibnall, and RTD said quite openly that he "wouldn't
    unwrite anything that his good friend had written"... yet some
    people still think that RTD will retcon the Timeless Child and
    erase that era from "Doctor Who" lore! <rolls eyes>

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Feb 11 17:27:05 2025
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    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced
    budget for "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more
    episodes. There's no guarantee that another streaming
    service would be be interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give
    it a break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was terrible!


    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    Was, Dave. Jodie's Doctor is long gone... so it's time to move
    on.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Feb 11 17:30:04 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
    tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but
    there will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child
    era next season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of
    guy than a retconner!

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
    Child and unwilling to undo it?

    Heance a new era is needed!

    I really am going to have to dig-up those posts on RADW from
    2023 where you was welcoming the return of RTD aren't I? Just
    for old times sake.

    They are surely good for a laugh if nothing else...

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Tue Feb 11 17:41:49 2025
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    Ubiquitous wrote:

    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget
    for "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes.
    There's no guarantee that another streaming service would
    be be interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it
    a break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was terrible!

    I kind of like Ncuti's Doctor, he could be written a bit more
    stronger and Doctor-ish, but RTD seems to think that the Doctor
    should be an effeminate Time Lord with feelings, and that crying
    shows he cares about other people's suffering... so either I
    have watched the wrong "Doctor Who" episodes growing up, or he
    has! I don't blame Ncuti though, the scripts are on the
    shoulders of RTD and reflect what he wants from the Doctor.

    I would like to see a stronger Doctor in S2/S15 with more
    emphasis on him, and action, not the companion and their soap
    opera life. (I have no interest in the families of companions,
    they are [generally] just a waste of precious screen time.) With
    the right script Ncuti Gatwa could still make a good Doctor, IMO.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 11 17:59:04 2025
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    On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:

    In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
    episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
    War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
    are not happy with what they have been getting from their
    partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
    order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
    and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
    S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
    ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
    were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...

    a new partner needed?

    Possibly.

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 12 10:15:48 2025
    On 2025-02-11 12:46:56 +0000, Daniel70 said:
    On 9/02/2025 10:34 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1tfzh8zt49003@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    <Snip>

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
    will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
    season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
    retconner!

    Well RTD is oging the way of JN-T .

    "oging"??

    Oging
    The act of poking, jabbing or prodding someone with a
    blunt, hard object. Usually used in awkward situations
    in an untoward manner, in order to make the situation
    more awkward for both.
    <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Oging>

    ;-)

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Feb 11 23:43:06 2025
    In article <xn0p1xkkg4f323d005@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced
    budget for "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more
    episodes. There's no guarantee that another streaming
    service would be be interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give
    it a break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was terrible!


    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    Was, Dave. Jodie's Doctor is long gone... so it's time to move
    on.

    Did you get the point?
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Feb 11 23:46:28 2025
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    In article <xn0p1xkeo4eurgx003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
    tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but
    there will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child
    era next season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of
    guy than a retconner!

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
    Child and unwilling to undo it?

    Yes, Chris Chibnall, and RTD said quite openly that he "wouldn't
    unwrite anything that his good friend had written"... yet some
    people still think that RTD will retcon the Timeless Child and
    erase that era from "Doctor Who" lore! <rolls eyes>

    If he wants to keep DDW popular!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue Feb 11 23:43:50 2025
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    In article <vog358$1sjmk$5@dont-email.me>, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >On Feb 11, 2025 at 7:38:30 AM PST, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:

    In article <vofqh9$1r2on$1@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
    episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
    War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
    are not happy with what they have been getting from their
    partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
    order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
    and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
    S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
    ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
    were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...

    a new partner needed?

    Possibly.

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.



    No fan of the Green Death.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Feb 11 23:47:47 2025
    In article <xn0p1xkn44f6wvg006@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    Autism, women, homosexuals, and transvestites can all be
    tolerated. The Timeless Child monster cannot!

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but
    there will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child
    era next season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of
    guy than a retconner!

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
    Child and unwilling to undo it?

    Heance a new era is needed!

    I really am going to have to dig-up those posts on RADW from
    2023 where you was welcoming the return of RTD aren't I? Just
    for old times sake.

    They are surely good for a laugh if nothing else...


    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from past mistakes.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Tue Feb 11 23:48:46 2025
    In article <vogem3$1urfq$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-11 12:46:56 +0000, Daniel70 said:
    On 9/02/2025 10:34 am, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1tfzh8zt49003@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    <Snip>

    Of course, I would say that era of the show has gone but there
    will surely be some reminders of the Timeless Child era next
    season... RTD seems more of a double-down type of guy than a
    retconner!

    Well RTD is oging the way of JN-T .

    "oging"??

    Oging
    The act of poking, jabbing or prodding someone with a
    blunt, hard object. Usually used in awkward situations
    in an untoward manner, in order to make the situation
    more awkward for both.
    <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Oging>

    ;-)



    Touche.
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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to john@hamiltonhall.info on Tue Feb 25 04:30:41 2025
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    john@hamiltonhall.info wrote:
    NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    atropos@mac.com wrote:
    "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>>me.

    What's wrong with that?

    It's a gay sex act involving cum.

    Yeah, a definite TMI moment.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to weberm@polaris.net on Tue Feb 25 14:20:06 2025
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    In article <vpkbs6$1upbp$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    john@hamiltonhall.info wrote:
    NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <voi356$2ai7v$3@dont-email.me>, wrote:
    atropos@mac.com wrote:
    "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca wrote:

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    That would be a dealbreaker for many. He was _terrible_!

    The Dealbreaker is Jodie Whittaker!

    No, when I saw the Doctor mincing around in a dress in one of the early >>>>> episodes, that was it for me. Deal broken.

    That was a kilt, not a dress. ;-)

    Him nonchalantly telling the policeman he had been snow-balled was it for >>>>me.

    What's wrong with that?

    It's a gay sex act involving cum.

    Yeah, a definite TMI moment.


    Ouch!

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    send them south.
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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu Feb 13 20:12:33 2025
    On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1xkn44f6wvg006@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
    <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
    Child and unwilling to undo it?

    Heance a new era is needed!

    I really am going to have to dig-up those posts on RADW from 2023
    where you was welcoming the return of RTD aren't I? Just for old
    times sake.

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from past
    mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the most
    popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor Who', I'm
    wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something similar way back then,
    and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might have walked out in PROTEST.

    Sure, it wasn't perfect, but it was popular among the TV watching
    audience of the day. We had an iconic Doctor (David Tennant), high
    ratings, merch everywhere (etc.) If RTD and Bad Wolf could get Doctor
    Who back to that level of popularity they'd be more than delighted.

    And so would we!

    Correct!!
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Thu Feb 13 10:11:48 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1yqwt5jcd08000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Jodie Whittaker's Doctor can't have been that much of a
    deal-breaker for you if you still watched every episode of
    Doctor Who since then and will sit down and watch the new
    season when it airs this spring.. so clearly you lack
    understanding of what the term deal-breaker actually means.
    (No surprise there then!)

    Point is I doubt Ncuti is a deal breaker like Jodie.

    It's quite possible that more people have switched off "Doctor
    Who" during Ncuti Gatwa's tenure than during Jodie's era? I'm
    sure our resident Professor of Literature and Statistics will
    have the details on that. The forthcoming season's ratings will
    tell a lot.

    BUT, nobody could be the deal-breaker for you as you still watch
    the show! So "Doctor Who" must be providing you with some sort
    of entertainment to keep you engaged for all this time.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to daniel47@eternal-september.org on Thu Feb 13 12:28:53 2025
    In article <vokd24$2radm$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
    On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1xkn44f6wvg006@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <vofqm5$1r2on$2@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
    <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    Isn't RTD pals with the person who came up with The Timeless
    Child and unwilling to undo it?

    Heance a new era is needed!

    I really am going to have to dig-up those posts on RADW from 2023
    where you was welcoming the return of RTD aren't I? Just for old
    times sake.

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from past
    mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the most
    popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor Who', I'm >wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something similar way back then,
    and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might have walked out in PROTEST.


    Could be.

    Sure, it wasn't perfect, but it was popular among the TV watching
    audience of the day. We had an iconic Doctor (David Tennant), high
    ratings, merch everywhere (etc.) If RTD and Bad Wolf could get Doctor
    Who back to that level of popularity they'd be more than delighted.

    And so would we!

    Correct!!

    Maybe less influence from ...

    --
    Daniel70


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu Feb 13 12:29:57 2025
    In article <xn0p201q56ts5zy000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1yqwt5jcd08000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Jodie Whittaker's Doctor can't have been that much of a
    deal-breaker for you if you still watched every episode of
    Doctor Who since then and will sit down and watch the new
    season when it airs this spring.. so clearly you lack
    understanding of what the term deal-breaker actually means.
    (No surprise there then!)

    Point is I doubt Ncuti is a deal breaker like Jodie.

    It's quite possible that more people have switched off "Doctor
    Who" during Ncuti Gatwa's tenure than during Jodie's era? I'm
    sure our resident Professor of Literature and Statistics will
    have the details on that. The forthcoming season's ratings will
    tell a lot.

    BUT, nobody could be the deal-breaker for you as you still watch
    the show! So "Doctor Who" must be providing you with some sort
    of entertainment to keep you engaged for all this time.

    That should be in NOT a deal breaker!@ Correction!!

    Yes, Ruby Sunday part of UNIT.
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Thu Feb 13 15:37:56 2025
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1yrij5k7qds002@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
    past mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
    most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show. Sure, it
    wasn't perfect, but it was very popular among the TV watching
    audience of the day. We had an iconic Doctor (David
    Tennant), high ratings, merch everywhere (etc.) If RTD and
    Bad Wolf could get Doctor Who back to that level of
    popularity they'd be more than delighted.

    And so would we!

    Past mistakes include the Time Wars and the Timeless Child!

    Well, if we're playing that game I could say past mistakes
    include destroying Gallifrey (again), humpback Daleks and the
    Flux!

    AGA would throw in the moon thing as well...

    We could all find fault with something. So it's best just to go
    forward and what's done is done. Plus, I don't think RTD cares
    what the fans think anyway.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 13 15:37:58 2025
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
    past mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
    most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
    Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
    similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might
    have walked out in PROTEST.

    Might being the operative word of course!

    The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared in
    recent years and it was more to do with him falling out with
    Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording block, and
    then RTD doubling-down by supporting his production team and
    ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so Eccleston did his job,
    finished his scenes and said fuck you RTD.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Fri Feb 14 01:20:33 2025
    In article <xn0p20adv75g94o000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1yrij5k7qds002@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
    past mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
    most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show. Sure, it
    wasn't perfect, but it was very popular among the TV watching
    audience of the day. We had an iconic Doctor (David
    Tennant), high ratings, merch everywhere (etc.) If RTD and
    Bad Wolf could get Doctor Who back to that level of
    popularity they'd be more than delighted.

    And so would we!

    Past mistakes include the Time Wars and the Timeless Child!

    Well, if we're playing that game I could say past mistakes
    include destroying Gallifrey (again), humpback Daleks and the
    Flux!

    AGA would throw in the moon thing as well...

    We could all find fault with something. So it's best just to go
    forward and what's done is done. Plus, I don't think RTD cares
    what the fans think anyway.

    Hence diminishing returns on investment.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Fri Feb 14 01:21:42 2025
    In article <xn0p20at4762ce0002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
    past mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
    most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
    Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
    similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might
    have walked out in PROTEST.

    Might being the operative word of course!

    The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared in
    recent years and it was more to do with him falling out with
    Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording block, and
    then RTD doubling-down by supporting his production team and
    ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so Eccleston did his job,
    finished his scenes and said f*k you RTD.


    Major hint.
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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Feb 8 10:26:57 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 2025-02-07 14:52:24 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
    history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
    what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
    told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
    #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
    what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
    then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
    completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
    will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
    decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
    ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
    move on...

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the pre-Disney
    seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who because they stupidly
    believed it would raise their number of subscribers, which it wasn't
    ever going to do and anybody with more than one braincell could have
    told them the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to subscribe
    to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going to bother doing,
    especially for just one show and continual prices rises (both for
    Disney+ and general retail prices for everything).

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
    idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own
    'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 8 01:15:48 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.sf.fandom

    In article <JhmcndDDi9zqwTv6nZ2dnZfqn_cAAAAA@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1rxmz5cepg5002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0p1ru6c57tsij005@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the
    latest DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26
    episodes", which will be completed once the spin-off "The
    War Between the Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney
    are not happy with what they have been getting from their
    partnership with the BBC then there won't be a second
    order... the deal will have been completed and both Disney
    and the BBC can move on. I assume it will be the ratings for
    S2/S15 this spring that will be decisive, but if the
    ratings/viewing figures are in the same ball-park as they
    were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to move on...

    a new partner needed?

    Possibly.

    But, maybe the BBC will go it alone with a reduced budget for
    "Doctor Who" if Disney do not order any more episodes. There's
    no guarantee that another streaming service would be be
    interested in the show.

    Or maybe the BBC will put "Doctor Who" on hold and give it a
    break? It wouldn't be the first time...

    Let them look for a new dance partner and Keep Ncuti.

    i hope they don't put hyacinth back on

    The Timeless Child must be Hyacinth.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 8 01:16:19 2025
    In article <JhmcndPDi9w-wTv6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1ryk35dqlup004@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vo55g7$3hjkl$2@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

    ^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.

    pt

    Brandon is gone.

    The USA have gone from having a senile old man that could hardly
    walk or talk properly as its President, to a crazy old guy with
    a suntan who sounds like he wants to take over the world.

    Democracy, don't yer just love it?!


    I prefer Constitutional morchy to Republic!

    i like you do what you do and i'll do what i do


    As long as Trump dies as the last President of the conquered USA!
    --
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Sat Feb 8 01:16:55 2025
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.fandom, rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <vo5tr1$3lv3f$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-07 14:52:24 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    The last season of Doctor Who had the lowest ratings in the
    history of the series across multiple metrics, which is not
    what Disney bargained for. Here's what a long-time source has
    told me about the alleged future of Doctor Who on Disney Plus.
    #disney #doctorwho #disneyplus

    https://youtu.be/AyxRpy1uzfg?si=SLq66WdzkXBZO-eg

    According to RTD (Doctor Who Executive Producer) in the latest
    DWM [#613] the "first order from Disney was for 26 episodes",
    which will be completed once the spin-off "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea" has aired. So if Disney are not happy with
    what they have been getting from their partnership with the BBC
    then there won't be a second order... the deal will have been
    completed and both Disney and the BBC can move on. I assume it
    will be the ratings for S2/S15 this spring that will be
    decisive, but if the ratings/viewing figures are in the same
    ball-park as they were for S1/S14 then I would expect Disney to
    move on...

    A complete NON-surprise that the ratings are lower than the pre-Disney >seasons. Disney of course bought into Doctor Who because they stupidly >believed it would raise their number of subscribers, which it wasn't
    ever going to do and anybody with more than one braincell could have
    told them the 'ratings' would drop dramatically. The only legal way for >international viewers to watch "Doctor Who" currently is to subscribe
    to Disney+, which most people simply weren't going to bother doing, >especially for just one show and continual prices rises (both for
    Disney+ and general retail prices for everything).

    Subscription-based streaming services themselves weren't really a good
    idea to begin with, let alone numerous services all with their own >'exclusive' content. The old cable and satelitte TV services have been >struggling for decades to retain and grow subscriber numbers.




    So Disney+ is not as popular as hoped.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 8 06:59:09 2025
    In article <bMicnSi5JcZMKTv6nZ2dnZfqnPoAAAAA@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <JhmcndPDi9w-wTv6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>,
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:
    In article <xn0p1ryk35dqlup004@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <vo55g7$3hjkl$2@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

    ^ Isn't that getting a little tired. He went.

    pt

    Brandon is gone.

    The USA have gone from having a senile old man that could hardly
    walk or talk properly as its President, to a crazy old guy with
    a suntan who sounds like he wants to take over the world.

    Democracy, don't yer just love it?!


    I prefer Constitutional morchy to Republic!

    i like you do what you do and i'll do what i do


    As long as Trump dies as the last President of the conquered USA!

    i can't reply to that or ,
    i wouldn't be doing what i do

    Oh. well.
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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Fri Feb 14 21:34:17 2025
    On 14/02/2025 2:37 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
    past mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
    most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
    Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
    similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might
    have walked out in PROTEST.

    Might being the operative word of course!

    The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared in
    recent years and it was more to do with him falling out with
    Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording block, and
    then RTD doubling-down by supporting his production team and
    ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so Eccleston did his job,
    finished his scenes and said fuck you RTD.

    Ah, well ......!
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 14 12:14:22 2025
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 14/02/2025 2:37 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
    Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
    similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??)
    might have walked out in PROTEST.

    Might being the operative word of course!

    The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared
    in recent years and it was more to do with him falling out
    with Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording
    block, and then RTD doubling-down by supporting his
    production team and ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so
    Eccleston did his job, finished his scenes and said fuck you
    RTD.

    Ah, well ......!

    Well, I wasn't actually there... so Christopher Eccleston could
    have been making it up! ;-)

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to daniel47@eternal-september.org on Fri Feb 14 14:30:52 2025
    In article <von678$3e4r8$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
    On 14/02/2025 2:37 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 12/02/2025 11:38 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    I did say that because one hope someone could learn from
    past mistakes.

    Past mistakes? The first RTD era of the show was one of the
    most popular times for Doctor Who as a TV show.

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
    Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
    similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??) might
    have walked out in PROTEST.

    Might being the operative word of course!

    The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared in
    recent years and it was more to do with him falling out with
    Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording block, and
    then RTD doubling-down by supporting his production team and
    ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so Eccleston did his job,
    finished his scenes and said f*k you RTD.

    Ah, well ......!

    Not the first time!

    --
    Daniel70


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Fri Feb 14 14:38:07 2025
    In article <xn0p21k1uxhdya006@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 14/02/2025 2:37 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    And, given what RTD has, apparently, done to Disney 'Doctor
    Who', I'm wondering if, maybe, RTD wanted to do something
    similar way back then, and Christopher Eccelstion (SP??)
    might have walked out in PROTEST.

    Might being the operative word of course!

    The story Christopher Eccleston gives has been widely shared
    in recent years and it was more to do with him falling out
    with Phil Collinson and Julie Gardner during a recording
    block, and then RTD doubling-down by supporting his
    production team and ignoring Eccleston's criticisms... so
    Eccleston did his job, finished his scenes and said f*k you
    RTD.

    Ah, well ......!

    Well, I wasn't actually there... so Christopher Eccleston could
    have been making it up! ;-)

    Who knows.
    --
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