• RTD: "Streamers are Heading for a South Sea Bubble"

    From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 6 18:21:03 2024
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    RTD has some interesting thing to say about the streaming
    services...

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/bbc/russell-t-davies-streamers-are-heading-for-a-south-sea-bubble/5199870.article

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Fri Dec 6 23:41:58 2024
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    In article <xn0ou8w4c30wphe000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    RTD has some interesting thing to say about the streaming
    services...

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/bbc/russell-t-davies-streamers-are-heading-for-a-south-sea-bubble/5199870.article


    buubleheads for you.
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  • From The True Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Dec 7 03:28:11 2024
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    On 06/12/2024 18:21, Blueshirt wrote:
    RTD has some interesting thing to say about the streaming
    services...

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/bbc/russell-t-davies-streamers-are-heading-for-a-south-sea-bubble/5199870.article


    <<Davies went on to say that there are “too many streamers and too much money, not everyone is watching these things, it can’t be financially viable.”

    He continued: “I kind of hope it does pop, so we can go back to making
    those 8pm and 9pm dramas about say, a bunch of British lawyers or a
    health centre”. Davies said he hoped that this would pave the way for
    new training grounds for writers, directors and other TV creators in
    dramas that “don’t cost a fortune but teach people how to make TV.”

    Davies rejoined the long-running sci-fi drama Doctor Who as a writer in
    2023 after Disney+ had joined forces with the BBC, giving the show a
    major funding boost and streaming the UK series globally.

    “The BBC made a move to go to a streamer” Davies told listeners. “[The BBC] thought the show deserved to look as good as Stranger Things or
    Star Wars [the series], why should we be the humble show being made in a
    shoe cupboard? That’s the way everything is heading.” ...

    << ... Looking to the future of Doctor Who, Davies insisted that no
    decision had been made as to a third series of the Disney/BBC deal,
    saying “the BBC will decide its future.”>>

    So Davies is confirming that hardly anyone watched Doctor Whoke on
    Disney+ and is claiming streaming services are shit and its better to
    make shows the old way in order to prepare everyone for the fact that
    Disney+ won't be renewing Doctor Whoke and as a result he's told Disney
    to go out and fuck grass. Unless wokery is driven out of the
    entertainment industry no good new writers, directors, and other TV
    creators will ever emerge.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM on Sat Dec 7 06:06:06 2024
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    In article <vj0fcc$2rho8$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 06/12/2024 18:21, Blueshirt wrote:
    RTD has some interesting thing to say about the streaming
    services...

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/bbc/russell-t-davies-streamers-are-heading-for-a-south-sea-bubble/5199870.article


    <<Davies went on to say that there are “too many streamers and too much >money, not everyone is watching these things, it can’t be financially >viable.”

    He continued: “I kind of hope it does pop, so we can go back to making >those 8pm and 9pm dramas about say, a bunch of British lawyers or a
    health centre”. Davies said he hoped that this would pave the way for
    new training grounds for writers, directors and other TV creators in
    dramas that “don’t cost a fortune but teach people how to make TV.”

    Davies rejoined the long-running sci-fi drama Doctor Who as a writer in
    2023 after Disney+ had joined forces with the BBC, giving the show a
    major funding boost and streaming the UK series globally.

    “The BBC made a move to go to a streamer” Davies told listeners. “[The >BBC] thought the show deserved to look as good as Stranger Things or
    Star Wars [the series], why should we be the humble show being made in a
    shoe cupboard? That’s the way everything is heading.” ...

    << ... Looking to the future of Doctor Who, Davies insisted that no
    decision had been made as to a third series of the Disney/BBC deal,
    saying “the BBC will decide its future.”>>

    So Davies is confirming that hardly anyone watched Doctor Whoke on
    Disney+ and is claiming streaming services are shit and its better to
    make shows the old way in order to prepare everyone for the fact that
    Disney+ won't be renewing Doctor Whoke and as a result he's told Disney
    to go out and fuck grass. Unless wokery is driven out of the
    entertainment industry no good new writers, directors, and other TV
    creators will ever emerge.


    Look like the audience is not getting what they want.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The True Doctor on Sat Dec 7 21:02:13 2024
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    The True Doctor wrote:


    So Davies is confirming that hardly anyone watched Doctor
    Whoke on Disney+ and is claiming streaming services are shit
    and its better to make shows the old way in order to prepare
    everyone for the fact that Disney+ won't be renewing Doctor
    Whoke and as a result he's told Disney to go out and fuck
    grass. Unless wokery is driven out of the entertainment
    industry no good new writers, directors, and other TV creators
    will ever emerge.

    The big streaming services are pricing themselves out of it for
    some people, but what they have delivered is quantity of
    content. There's no longer just four channels to watch, with
    programmes only on at set times. You can watch what you want,
    when you want. Viewers are more picky and choosy with their
    entertainment choices these days... and if they don't like
    something, they will switch it off and watch something else.

    RTD needs to look in the mirror if not as many people are
    watching Doctor Who as he'd like... it has got nothing to do
    with the streaming "bubble". Whatever the Disney+ viewing
    figures are they don't affect how Doctor Who performs in the UK.
    Which should be the most important metric to the BBC.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sat Dec 7 20:26:36 2024
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    The Doctor wrote:


    Look like the audience is not getting what they want.

    It looks like the streaming audiences are voting with their
    wallet and refusing to keep stumping up money for all of the
    various streaming services.

    Disney+, for instance, have gone from €6.99 a month, when they
    launched in Ireland in March 2020, to €13.99 a month four years
    later. (i.e. now!). How can normal people keep a subscription
    going when the cost is increasing at that rate? They are
    shooting themselves in the foot.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Dec 8 10:49:58 2024
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    On 2024-12-07 20:26:36 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    The Doctor wrote:

    Look like the audience is not getting what they want.

    It looks like the streaming audiences are voting with their
    wallet and refusing to keep stumping up money for all of the
    various streaming services.

    Some of use were smart enough to have never stumped up any money for
    ridiculous streaming services at all. :op



    Disney+, for instance, have gone from €6.99 a month, when they
    launched in Ireland in March 2020, to €13.99 a month four years
    later. (i.e. now!). How can normal people keep a subscription
    going when the cost is increasing at that rate? They are
    shooting themselves in the foot.

    Subscription streaming was never a good financial model from the start,
    and as more and more companies have jumped on teh bandwagon up, it has
    become even less viable. Some are now loolking at partnerships and
    sharing some content, but that isn't going to work either - there's
    still simply far too many, far too much choice, and the public simply
    doesn't have enough money to keep paying them all.

    It gets even sillier with other business jumping on the same
    subscription bandwagon. Adobe, for example, charging a monthly / annual
    fee to use their software. Even car manufacturers have been
    ridiculously looking at subscription models for some "features" in
    their cars.

    The idiots in management greedily see it as an on-going income stream,
    but in reality people simply stop paying and the company usually ends
    up with less customers and less income.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Dec 8 10:42:44 2024
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    On 2024-12-07 21:02:13 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    So Davies is confirming that hardly anyone watched Doctor
    Whoke on Disney+ and is claiming streaming services are shit
    and its better to make shows the old way in order to prepare
    everyone for the fact that Disney+ won't be renewing Doctor
    Whoke and as a result he's told Disney to go out and fuck
    grass. Unless wokery is driven out of the entertainment
    industry no good new writers, directors, and other TV creators
    will ever emerge.

    The big streaming services are pricing themselves out of it for
    some people, but what they have delivered is quantity of
    content. There's no longer just four channels to watch, with
    programmes only on at set times. You can watch what you want,
    when you want. Viewers are more picky and choosy with their
    entertainment choices these days... and if they don't like
    something, they will switch it off and watch something else.

    RTD needs to look in the mirror if not as many people are
    watching Doctor Who as he'd like... it has got nothing to do
    with the streaming "bubble". Whatever the Disney+ viewing
    figures are they don't affect how Doctor Who performs in the UK.
    Which should be the most important metric to the BBC.

    The BBC doesn't have advertising, so the number of viewers watching
    isn't as relevant as it is for regular advert-funded TV networks.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Dec 8 01:51:05 2024
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    In article <xn0ouaey43bcl3005@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:


    So Davies is confirming that hardly anyone watched Doctor
    Whoke on Disney+ and is claiming streaming services are shit
    and its better to make shows the old way in order to prepare
    everyone for the fact that Disney+ won't be renewing Doctor
    Whoke and as a result he's told Disney to go out and fuck
    grass. Unless wokery is driven out of the entertainment
    industry no good new writers, directors, and other TV creators
    will ever emerge.

    The big streaming services are pricing themselves out of it for
    some people, but what they have delivered is quantity of
    content. There's no longer just four channels to watch, with
    programmes only on at set times. You can watch what you want,
    when you want. Viewers are more picky and choosy with their
    entertainment choices these days... and if they don't like
    something, they will switch it off and watch something else.

    RTD needs to look in the mirror if not as many people are
    watching Doctor Who as he'd like... it has got nothing to do
    with the streaming "bubble". Whatever the Disney+ viewing
    figures are they don't affect how Doctor Who performs in the UK.
    Which should be the most important metric to the BBC.

    Step 1: Retcon the Timeless Child.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Dec 8 01:50:34 2024
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    In article <xn0ouadzg22d24004@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:


    Look like the audience is not getting what they want.

    It looks like the streaming audiences are voting with their
    wallet and refusing to keep stumping up money for all of the
    various streaming services.

    Disney+, for instance, have gone from €6.99 a month, when they
    launched in Ireland in March 2020, to €13.99 a month four years
    later. (i.e. now!). How can normal people keep a subscription
    going when the cost is increasing at that rate? They are
    shooting themselves in the foot.

    Ever heard of Fubo or Pluto?
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Sun Dec 8 01:51:34 2024
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    In article <vj2fu6$3bjco$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2024-12-07 20:26:36 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    The Doctor wrote:

    Look like the audience is not getting what they want.

    It looks like the streaming audiences are voting with their
    wallet and refusing to keep stumping up money for all of the
    various streaming services.

    Some of use were smart enough to have never stumped up any money for >ridiculous streaming services at all. :op



    Disney+, for instance, have gone from €6.99 a month, when they
    launched in Ireland in March 2020, to €13.99 a month four years
    later. (i.e. now!). How can normal people keep a subscription
    going when the cost is increasing at that rate? They are
    shooting themselves in the foot.

    Subscription streaming was never a good financial model from the start,
    and as more and more companies have jumped on teh bandwagon up, it has
    become even less viable. Some are now loolking at partnerships and
    sharing some content, but that isn't going to work either - there's
    still simply far too many, far too much choice, and the public simply
    doesn't have enough money to keep paying them all.

    It gets even sillier with other business jumping on the same
    subscription bandwagon. Adobe, for example, charging a monthly / annual
    fee to use their software. Even car manufacturers have been
    ridiculously looking at subscription models for some "features" in
    their cars.

    The idiots in management greedily see it as an on-going income stream,
    but in reality people simply stop paying and the company usually ends
    up with less customers and less income.




    Streaming is just off!
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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sun Dec 8 19:37:29 2024
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    The Doctor wrote on 8/12/24 12:51 pm:

    <Snip>

    Step 1: Retcon the Timeless Child.

    Step 0: GET A LIFE!!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to daniel47@nomail.afraid.org on Sun Dec 8 12:45:55 2024
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    In article <vj3ls8$3mfaq$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote on 8/12/24 12:51 pm:

    <Snip>

    Step 1: Retcon the Timeless Child.

    Step 0: GET A LIFE!!
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    Step 0 never exist.
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