• Re: Google Gemni reviews Doctor Who - Warriors of the Deep

    From The Last Doctor@21:1/5 to daniel47@nomail.afraid.org on Thu Aug 22 12:14:41 2024
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The Last Doctor wrote on 22/8/24 5:39 pm:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    solar penguin wrote:
    The idiot insisted:

    Warrior's of the Deep is a standout story in the Sixth Doctor's
    era. It's a thrilling underwater adventure with strong
    characters, a compelling plot, and a visually stunning
    setting.

    And yet somehow the AI LLM still makes more sense than your own
    posts.

    Maybe we don't need a Dave Yadallee on RADW so? We could just get
    some bot to replace him...

    I wonder would anyone notice any difference?

    Immediately. While being as dull and incorrect on matters of fact as
    Dave, no LLM would spell as badly, form incoherent fragments of
    sentences as responses, RAndomLY switch between capitals and lower
    case type in the middle of a word, or insist on requoting hundreds of
    lines of post in order to make a five word comment which is a hundred
    lines removed from the statement being replied to.

    Nor would it go off on a completely unrelated tangent (often with an
    impossible challenge added in) rather than try to answer a question
    set to it.

    Unless you completely lobotomised the LLM by only allowing it to
    “learn” from Dave’s unaltered and self-generated output.

    Now, an LLM imitation of Agamemnon - that would be more of a
    challenge to spot.

    Repetitive parroting of catchphrases, hair-trigger sensitivity,
    misuse of the meaning of words, a plethora of adjectives, a bizarre
    fascistic agenda - all highly imitable.

    .... and posts, for no particular reason What-so-ever, reams and reams
    of The Bible (KJV, of course) which (usually) have no connection
    WHAT-SO-EVER with the ongoing discussion

    Sorry, of course there is a reason .... to increase his All Important Precious Post Count!!

    It could be several posts before you realised it was too sane to be
    the real thing.

    Oh no, the different would be IMMEDIATLY noticeable!!

    I did say “immediately” with respect to Dave - the last couple of paragraphs were about how an LLM could easily uncannily replicate Aggy -
    until you realised it wasn’t batshit crazy.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to mike@xenocyte.com on Thu Aug 22 12:53:59 2024
    In article <va6pvr$c0dh$1@dont-email.me>,
    The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    solar penguin wrote:

    The idiot insisted:


    Warrior's of the Deep is a standout story in the
    Sixth Doctor's era. It's a thrilling underwater
    adventure with strong characters, a compelling plot,
    and a visually stunning setting.

    And yet somehow the AI LLM still makes more sense than
    your own posts.

    Maybe we don't need a Dave Yadallee on RADW so? We could just
    get some bot to replace him...

    I wonder would anyone notice any difference?


    Immediately. While being as dull and incorrect on matters of fact as Dave,
    no LLM would spell as badly, form incoherent fragments of sentences as >responses, RAndomLY switch between capitals and lower case type in the
    middle of a word, or insist on requoting hundreds of lines of post in order >to make a five word comment which is a hundred lines removed from the >statement being replied to.

    Nor would it go off on a completely unrelated tangent (often with an >impossible challenge added in) rather than try to answer a question set to >it.

    Unless you completely lobotomised the LLM by only allowing it to “learn” >from Dave’s unaltered and self-generated output.

    Now, an LLM imitation of Agamemnon - that would be more of a challenge to >spot.

    Repetitive parroting of catchphrases, hair-trigger sensitivity, misuse of
    the meaning of words, a plethora of adjectives, a bizarre fascistic agenda
    - all highly imitable.

    It could be several posts before you realised it was too sane to be the
    real thing.


    MM as LLM? Nah.

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    “Most of the Universe is knackered, babes.” - The Doctor


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to solar.penguin@gmail.com on Thu Aug 22 12:52:16 2024
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    XPost: can.arts.sf

    In article <va74q0$dgmu$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    The idiot insisted:

    In article <va56ce$3uh1v$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    The idiot insisted:


    Warrior's of the Deep is a standout story
    in the Sixth Doctor's era. It's a thrilling underwater adventure
    with strong characters, a compelling plot, and a visually stunning setting.


    And yet somehow the AI LLM still makes more sense than
    your own posts.


    Come On! Birdie! The error is obvious.


    Which one? There are several errors:

    ‘Warriors of the Deep’ isn’t a standout story. It isn’t from the >Sixth Doctor’s era. It isn’t a thrilling underwater adventure. It >doesn’t have strong characters. It doesn’t have a compelling
    plot. It doesn’t have a visually stunning setting. And it doesn’t even >have an apostrophe.


    Warriors of the Deep involve The Doctor, Turlough and Tegan for starters.

    --
    solar penguin


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to daniel47@nomail.afraid.org on Thu Aug 22 12:55:50 2024
    In article <va72if$d6pl$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The Last Doctor wrote on 22/8/24 5:39 pm:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    solar penguin wrote:
    The idiot insisted:

    Warrior's of the Deep is a standout story in the Sixth Doctor's
    era. It's a thrilling underwater adventure with strong
    characters, a compelling plot, and a visually stunning
    setting.

    And yet somehow the AI LLM still makes more sense than your own
    posts.

    Maybe we don't need a Dave Yadallee on RADW so? We could just get
    some bot to replace him...

    I wonder would anyone notice any difference?

    Immediately. While being as dull and incorrect on matters of fact as
    Dave, no LLM would spell as badly, form incoherent fragments of
    sentences as responses, RAndomLY switch between capitals and lower
    case type in the middle of a word, or insist on requoting hundreds of
    lines of post in order to make a five word comment which is a hundred
    lines removed from the statement being replied to.

    Nor would it go off on a completely unrelated tangent (often with an
    impossible challenge added in) rather than try to answer a question
    set to it.

    Unless you completely lobotomised the LLM by only allowing it to
    “learn” from Dave’s unaltered and self-generated output.

    Now, an LLM imitation of Agamemnon - that would be more of a
    challenge to spot.

    Repetitive parroting of catchphrases, hair-trigger sensitivity,
    misuse of the meaning of words, a plethora of adjectives, a bizarre
    fascistic agenda - all highly imitable.

    .... and posts, for no particular reason What-so-ever, reams and reams
    of The Bible (KJV, of course) which (usually) have no connection
    WHAT-SO-EVER with the ongoing discussion

    Sorry, of course there is a reason .... to increase his All Important >Precious Post Count!!


    Figure out the formula Dannyboy!

    It could be several posts before you realised it was too sane to be
    the real thing.

    Oh no, the different would be IMMEDIATLY noticeable!!
    --
    Daniel


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to mike@xenocyte.com on Thu Aug 22 12:56:37 2024
    In article <va7a3h$e89k$1@dont-email.me>,
    The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The Last Doctor wrote on 22/8/24 5:39 pm:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    solar penguin wrote:
    The idiot insisted:

    Warrior's of the Deep is a standout story in the Sixth Doctor's
    era. It's a thrilling underwater adventure with strong
    characters, a compelling plot, and a visually stunning
    setting.

    And yet somehow the AI LLM still makes more sense than your own
    posts.

    Maybe we don't need a Dave Yadallee on RADW so? We could just get
    some bot to replace him...

    I wonder would anyone notice any difference?

    Immediately. While being as dull and incorrect on matters of fact as
    Dave, no LLM would spell as badly, form incoherent fragments of
    sentences as responses, RAndomLY switch between capitals and lower
    case type in the middle of a word, or insist on requoting hundreds of
    lines of post in order to make a five word comment which is a hundred
    lines removed from the statement being replied to.

    Nor would it go off on a completely unrelated tangent (often with an
    impossible challenge added in) rather than try to answer a question
    set to it.

    Unless you completely lobotomised the LLM by only allowing it to
    “learn” from Dave’s unaltered and self-generated output.

    Now, an LLM imitation of Agamemnon - that would be more of a
    challenge to spot.

    Repetitive parroting of catchphrases, hair-trigger sensitivity,
    misuse of the meaning of words, a plethora of adjectives, a bizarre
    fascistic agenda - all highly imitable.

    .... and posts, for no particular reason What-so-ever, reams and reams
    of The Bible (KJV, of course) which (usually) have no connection
    WHAT-SO-EVER with the ongoing discussion

    Sorry, of course there is a reason .... to increase his All Important
    Precious Post Count!!

    It could be several posts before you realised it was too sane to be
    the real thing.

    Oh no, the different would be IMMEDIATLY noticeable!!

    I did say “immediately” with respect to Dave - the last couple of >paragraphs were about how an LLM could easily uncannily replicate Aggy - >until you realised it wasn’t bat crazy.


    Google Google Gemini ...

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Fri Aug 23 19:16:01 2024
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    The Doctor wrote on 22/8/24 10:52 pm:
    In article <va74q0$dgmu$1@dont-email.me>, solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
    The idiot insisted:
    In article <va56ce$3uh1v$1@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
    <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
    The idiot insisted:

    Warrior's of the Deep is a standout story in the Sixth
    Doctor's era. It's a thrilling underwater adventure with
    strong characters, a compelling plot, and a visually stunning
    setting.

    And yet somehow the AI LLM still makes more sense than your own
    posts.

    Come On! Birdie! The error is obvious.

    Which one? There are several errors:

    ‘Warriors of the Deep’ isn’t a standout story. It isn’t
    from the Sixth Doctor’s era. It isn’t a thrilling underwater >> adventure. It doesn’t have strong characters. It doesn’t have a
    compelling plot. It doesn’t have a visually stunning setting. And
    it doesn’t even have an apostrophe.

    Warriors of the Deep involve The Doctor, Turlough and Tegan for
    starters.

    So WHAT?? Just because the story contains The Doctor, Turlough and Tegan
    It HAS to be a good story?? REALLY??
    --
    Daniel

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to daniel47@nomail.afraid.org on Fri Aug 23 13:38:06 2024
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <va9k0i$s2ei$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote on 22/8/24 10:52 pm:
    In article <va74q0$dgmu$1@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
    <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
    The idiot insisted:
    In article <va56ce$3uh1v$1@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
    <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
    The idiot insisted:

    Warrior's of the Deep is a standout story in the Sixth
    Doctor's era. It's a thrilling underwater adventure with
    strong characters, a compelling plot, and a visually stunning
    setting.

    And yet somehow the AI LLM still makes more sense than your own
    posts.

    Come On! Birdie! The error is obvious.

    Which one? There are several errors:

    ‘Warriors of the Deep’ isn’t a standout story. It >isn’t
    from the Sixth Doctor’s era. It isn’t a thrilling underwater >>> adventure. It doesn’t have strong characters. It doesn’t have a
    compelling plot. It doesn’t have a visually stunning setting. And >>> it doesn’t even have an apostrophe.

    Warriors of the Deep involve The Doctor, Turlough and Tegan for
    starters.

    So WHAT?? Just because the story contains The Doctor, Turlough and Tegan
    It HAS to be a good story?? REALLY??

    Google
    Gemini think is it from the 6th Doctor / Peri Era.

    --
    Daniel


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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 23 20:08:14 2024
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    Daniel70 wrote:

    The Doctor wrote on 22/8/24 10:52 pm:
    In article <va74q0$dgmu$1@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
    <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    "Warriors of the Deep" isn't a standout story. It
    isn't from the Sixth Doctor's era. It isn't a
    thrilling underwater adventure. It doesn't have strong
    characters. It doesn't have a compelling plot. It
    doesn't have a visually stunning setting. And it
    doesn't even have an apostrophe.

    Warriors of the Deep involve The Doctor, Turlough and Tegan
    for starters.

    So WHAT?? Just because the story contains The Doctor, Turlough
    and Tegan It HAS to be a good story?? REALLY??

    I think Dave's point was that Google Gemini claimed it was a
    Sixth Doctor story...

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Aug 24 00:27:43 2024
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    In article <xn0opx1xj3mx4a9001@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    The Doctor wrote on 22/8/24 10:52 pm:
    In article <va74q0$dgmu$1@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
    <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    "Warriors of the Deep" isn't a standout story. It
    isn't from the Sixth Doctor's era. It isn't a
    thrilling underwater adventure. It doesn't have strong
    characters. It doesn't have a compelling plot. It
    doesn't have a visually stunning setting. And it
    doesn't even have an apostrophe.

    Warriors of the Deep involve The Doctor, Turlough and Tegan
    for starters.

    So WHAT?? Just because the story contains The Doctor, Turlough
    and Tegan It HAS to be a good story?? REALLY??

    I think Dave's point was that Google Gemini claimed it was a
    Sixth Doctor story...

    Exactly why I am calling bogus!
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