• Doctor Who S2/S15 - Ep. 6: The Interstellar Song Contest

    From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 18 19:59:55 2025
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    I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
    years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
    part when we did... so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to
    miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable! However,
    we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a twist at the end,
    to make this a decent parody of the real thing. In fact it was a
    lot shorter and a probably a lot more entertaining than the real
    thing too.

    As a story "The Interstellar Song Contest" was actually quite
    good and very enjoyable, but of course the episode got kind of
    de-railed half way through when we got the Susan cameo... not
    Susan Twist, but Susan Campbell (née Foreman). Heavily rumoured
    in the usual online fan forums of course, but now fully
    confirmed on screen. Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years
    of age. Having her character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather"
    was a bit weird though. At least William Hartnell looked the
    part!

    As for the ending; flood -> rain -> Rani, was always a good guess
    from the start. The only issue was whether it was too 'on the
    nose' and one of RTD's red herrings, but no, it was indeed
    exactly what it said on the tin and it was another reveal this
    season that had also been heavily speculated on within fandom.
    Clearly there is a leak somewhere within the BBC (!)

    I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
    becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
    bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
    likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
    bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
    for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
    the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
    fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.

    There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
    the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
    to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to have to be
    something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD get the
    landing right or will it be a damp squib? One thing is for sure,
    with RTD's subtle use of the word "mavity" in this episode,
    'that' is definitely going to play a part!

    Stay tuned folks. The end is near... but the moment has been
    prepared for.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon May 19 00:31:17 2025
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    In article <xn0p5yeh6bvqlqa001@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
    years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
    part when we did... so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to
    miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable! However,
    we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a twist at the end,
    to make this a decent parody of the real thing. In fact it was a
    lot shorter and a probably a lot more entertaining than the real
    thing too.

    As a story "The Interstellar Song Contest" was actually quite
    good and very enjoyable, but of course the episode got kind of
    de-railed half way through when we got the Susan cameo... not
    Susan Twist, but Susan Campbell (née Foreman). Heavily rumoured
    in the usual online fan forums of course, but now fully
    confirmed on screen. Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years
    of age. Having her character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather"
    was a bit weird though. At least William Hartnell looked the
    part!

    As for the ending; flood -> rain -> Rani, was always a good guess
    from the start. The only issue was whether it was too 'on the
    nose' and one of RTD's red herrings, but no, it was indeed
    exactly what it said on the tin and it was another reveal this
    season that had also been heavily speculated on within fandom.
    Clearly there is a leak somewhere within the BBC (!)

    I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
    becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
    bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
    likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
    bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
    for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
    the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
    fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.

    There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
    the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
    to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to have to be
    something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD get the
    landing right or will it be a damp squib? One thing is for sure,
    with RTD's subtle use of the word "mavity" in this episode,
    'that' is definitely going to play a part!

    Stay tuned folks. The end is near... but the moment has been
    prepared for.

    And out of 10 you give this?
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  • From The True Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon May 19 02:52:18 2025
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    On 18/05/2025 20:59, Blueshirt wrote:

    I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
    years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
    part when we did... so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to

    Good point. The entire story should have been about the voting being
    totally racist, not about generating sympathy for a terrorist act which
    was written as a parallel to the October 7 attacks against innocent
    civilians going to a non-content in Israel including the performed of
    this year's Israeli Eurovision entry.

    miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable! However,
    we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a twist at the end,
    to make this a decent parody of the real thing. In fact it was a
    lot shorter and a probably a lot more entertaining than the real
    thing too.

    That is simply not true. 6.7 million people on average watched the
    Eurovision Final on BBC1 peaking at 7.9 million during the UK entry,
    compared to 2.57 million that watched Doctor Whoke and about 5 million
    that watched the FA Cup Final (on the BBC and ITV combined I think).

    https://www.derehamtimes.co.uk/things-to-do/national/25172198.eurovision-song-contest-attracts-two-million-viewers-fa-cup-final/


    As a story "The Interstellar Song Contest" was actually quite
    good and very enjoyable, but of course the episode got kind of
    de-railed half way through when we got the Susan cameo... not
    Susan Twist, but Susan Campbell (née Foreman). Heavily rumoured
    in the usual online fan forums of course, but now fully
    confirmed on screen. Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years
    of age. Having her character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather"
    was a bit weird though. At least William Hartnell looked the
    part!

    As for the ending; flood -> rain -> Rani, was always a good guess
    from the start. The only issue was whether it was too 'on the
    nose' and one of RTD's red herrings, but no, it was indeed
    exactly what it said on the tin and it was another reveal this
    season that had also been heavily speculated on within fandom.
    Clearly there is a leak somewhere within the BBC (!)


    Everyone figured it Mr Flood was going to be the Rani from when she
    first appeared in Gatwa's first Christmas special and knew what a TARDIS
    was.

    I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
    becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
    bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
    likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
    bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
    for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
    the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
    fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.

    The use of bi-generation once again simply shows that this series is not
    Doctor Who and never will be accepted as such. It's a complete woke joke
    along with the Timeless Child monster that has replaced the Doctor as
    the main protagonist. We say evidence of that when Gatwa showed that he
    was made of pure evil having to be stopped from torturing and murdering
    the male terrorist instead of handing him over to justice. That's the
    message of wokery. The woke don't believe in the law. The woke think
    they are the law. The woke are complete imbeciles. Even Plato over 2400
    years ago explicitly states that everyone must obey the law even if they
    think it is unjust. The woke don't underhand that because they're self
    centred tyrants just like the people Plato and ideology Plato dismantled
    in Gorgias and The Republic.

    Doctor Who ended in 2017.


    There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that

    Two more chances for Gatwa to hold the record for the top 10 lowest
    rating episodes of all time by pushing Jodie Whittaker out of the chart.

    the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
    to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to have to be

    Pure shit just like he did with last season's finale.

    something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD get the
    landing right or will it be a damp squib? One thing is for sure,
    with RTD's subtle use of the word "mavity" in this episode,
    'that' is definitely going to play a part!


    More evidence that this series is not Doctor Who.

    Stay tuned folks. The end is near... but the moment has been
    prepared for.

    Doctor Who ended in 2017! It's time for RTD and others to recognise that.

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
    stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM on Mon May 19 02:41:49 2025
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    In article <100e2si$18vmv$4@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/05/2025 20:59, Blueshirt wrote:

    I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
    years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
    part when we did... so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to

    Good point. The entire story should have been about the voting being
    totally racist, not about generating sympathy for a terrorist act which
    was written as a parallel to the October 7 attacks against innocent
    civilians going to a non-content in Israel including the performed of
    this year's Israeli Eurovision entry.

    miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable! However,
    we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a twist at the end,
    to make this a decent parody of the real thing. In fact it was a
    lot shorter and a probably a lot more entertaining than the real
    thing too.

    That is simply not true. 6.7 million people on average watched the
    Eurovision Final on BBC1 peaking at 7.9 million during the UK entry,
    compared to 2.57 million that watched Doctor Whoke and about 5 million
    that watched the FA Cup Final (on the BBC and ITV combined I think).

    https://www.derehamtimes.co.uk/things-to-do/national/25172198.eurovision-song-contest-attracts-two-million-viewers-fa-cup-final/


    As a story "The Interstellar Song Contest" was actually quite
    good and very enjoyable, but of course the episode got kind of
    de-railed half way through when we got the Susan cameo... not
    Susan Twist, but Susan Campbell (née Foreman). Heavily rumoured
    in the usual online fan forums of course, but now fully
    confirmed on screen. Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years
    of age. Having her character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather"
    was a bit weird though. At least William Hartnell looked the
    part!

    As for the ending; flood -> rain -> Rani, was always a good guess
    from the start. The only issue was whether it was too 'on the
    nose' and one of RTD's red herrings, but no, it was indeed
    exactly what it said on the tin and it was another reveal this
    season that had also been heavily speculated on within fandom.
    Clearly there is a leak somewhere within the BBC (!)


    Everyone figured it Mr Flood was going to be the Rani from when she
    first appeared in Gatwa's first Christmas special and knew what a TARDIS
    was.

    I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
    becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
    bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
    likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
    bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
    for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
    the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
    fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.

    The use of bi-generation once again simply shows that this series is not >Doctor Who and never will be accepted as such. It's a complete woke joke >along with the Timeless Child monster that has replaced the Doctor as
    the main protagonist. We say evidence of that when Gatwa showed that he
    was made of pure evil having to be stopped from torturing and murdering
    the male terrorist instead of handing him over to justice. That's the
    message of wokery. The woke don't believe in the law. The woke think
    they are the law. The woke are complete imbeciles. Even Plato over 2400
    years ago explicitly states that everyone must obey the law even if they >think it is unjust. The woke don't underhand that because they're self >centred tyrants just like the people Plato and ideology Plato dismantled
    in Gorgias and The Republic.

    Doctor Who ended in 2017.


    There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that

    Two more chances for Gatwa to hold the record for the top 10 lowest
    rating episodes of all time by pushing Jodie Whittaker out of the chart.

    the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
    to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to have to be

    Pure shit just like he did with last season's finale.

    something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD get the
    landing right or will it be a damp squib? One thing is for sure,
    with RTD's subtle use of the word "mavity" in this episode,
    'that' is definitely going to play a part!


    More evidence that this series is not Doctor Who.

    Stay tuned folks. The end is near... but the moment has been
    prepared for.

    Doctor Who ended in 2017! It's time for RTD and others to recognise that.


    It is time for RTD to recognise the damage he is doing
    by keeping the Timeless Child intact.

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." -William Shatner


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Hornplayer9599@aol.com on Mon May 19 03:45:44 2025
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    In article <cCxWP.307511$JJT6.60496@fx16.ams4>,
    Hornplayer9599 <Hornplayer9599@aol.com> wrote:
    On 5/18/2025 14:59, Blueshirt wrote:

    I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
    years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
    part when we did... so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to
    miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable! However,
    we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a twist at the end,
    to make this a decent parody of the real thing. In fact it was a
    lot shorter and a probably a lot more entertaining than the real
    thing too.

    Although I know of Eurovision...and know that Austria won it this year,
    I've never seen one, and I don't know enough about it to compare
    Interstellar to it. So there were probably many subtle references that
    I missed; I'm sure Graham Norton was one of them.


    As in the holograph?


    As a story "The Interstellar Song Contest" was actually quite
    good and very enjoyable, but of course the episode got kind of
    de-railed half way through when we got the Susan cameo... not
    Susan Twist, but Susan Campbell (née Foreman). Heavily rumoured
    in the usual online fan forums of course, but now fully
    confirmed on screen. Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years
    of age. Having her character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather"
    was a bit weird though. At least William Hartnell looked the
    part!


    I thought it was OK, if I was able to pick up on more of the Eurovision
    stuff I might have a better opinion (or not).


    I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
    becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
    bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
    likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
    bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
    for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
    the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
    fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.


    Same here. The first time it was used, I thought that the writers (read
    RTD) got "stuck", and used it as a cheap way to get un-stuck. This >time....nope....this is just lazy writing rearing its ugly head again.


    There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
    the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
    to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to have to be
    something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD get the
    landing right or will it be a damp squib?

    If RTD stays true to form, it will be like last season's finale: part 1
    is pretty good...but part 2 s*ts the bed.

    Usual RTD.


    --

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  • From Hornplayer9599@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun May 18 22:31:19 2025
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    On 5/18/2025 14:59, Blueshirt wrote:

    I haven't watched many Eurovision Song Contests live in recent
    years, but we did always find the scoring the most entertaining
    part when we did... so for "The Interstellar Song Contest" to
    miss out that part of the merriment was unforgivable! However,
    we did get OTT, fun, weird, camp, as well as a twist at the end,
    to make this a decent parody of the real thing. In fact it was a
    lot shorter and a probably a lot more entertaining than the real
    thing too.

    Although I know of Eurovision...and know that Austria won it this year,
    I've never seen one, and I don't know enough about it to compare
    Interstellar to it. So there were probably many subtle references that
    I missed; I'm sure Graham Norton was one of them.


    As a story "The Interstellar Song Contest" was actually quite
    good and very enjoyable, but of course the episode got kind of
    de-railed half way through when we got the Susan cameo... not
    Susan Twist, but Susan Campbell (née Foreman). Heavily rumoured
    in the usual online fan forums of course, but now fully
    confirmed on screen. Wow! Carole Ann Forde is back, at 84 years
    of age. Having her character call Ncuti's Doctor "Grandfather"
    was a bit weird though. At least William Hartnell looked the
    part!


    I thought it was OK, if I was able to pick up on more of the Eurovision
    stuff I might have a better opinion (or not).


    I'm not sure about the two Rani's thing, or Mrs Flood now
    becoming an underling either. I was also hoping that
    bi-generation was just a once-off in the show too... but RTD
    likes to hammer down on his ideas so we've now seen
    bi-generation twice in a few years, after never hearing of it
    for sixty years! No doubt it will rear its head(s) once again in
    the future now that it has become a 'thing'. For me it was silly
    fun once, but a stupid gimmick twice.


    Same here. The first time it was used, I thought that the writers (read
    RTD) got "stuck", and used it as a cheap way to get un-stuck. This time....nope....this is just lazy writing rearing its ugly head again.


    There's only two episodes left of the season now, so now that
    the unsurprising surprises have been revealed, what is RTD going
    to throw at us in those two episodes? It's going to have to be
    something BIG for a season finale... but will RTD get the
    landing right or will it be a damp squib?

    If RTD stays true to form, it will be like last season's finale: part 1
    is pretty good...but part 2 shits the bed.

    --

    Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
    --Carl Sagan

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