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On 07.05.25, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
[commentators watching and ranting rather than doing something
else]
Now-a-days there are plenty of options!!
Too many. Which is why TV shows nowadays need to be more
about telling a good story and keeping people engaged. If
people get bored halfway through a show, they'll just switch
over to something else, and if people really dislike a
specific show, they won't watch it again.
Viewer ratings are down everywhere because people have too
many options and they can dip-in and dip-out of TV shows to
find something that interests them.
These days most films even have a wiki, so I can read the plot
and more importantly the end, to see if I even want to watch
it in the first place. :)
On 05.05.25, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Mickmane wrote:
On 04.05.25, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
bastard...
I didn't.
It's TV... Nobody is THAT nice and smarmy without having some
agenda.
Meh. I object! If it's that predictable, it should not be used.
It's a trope! ;-)
Lame.
Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that
one don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's
all a conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth
Yeah, Soap boxing, sigh. Reminded me of good old Quincy,
where every episode was about one soap box or another.
It's TV... There has to be a 'message' in everything!
I object!
Just as there's always a twist at the end, there's always a
message to get across.
If it's that predictable, it's no longer a valid element of a
story.
as well as being a [kind of] prequel setting up "The War
Between the Land and the Sea"
What? What did I miss?
Nothing yet. Prequel means before...
But you said something about setting up. What was there that
set up anything?
Stay tuned until November/December for the answer.
What? Why then?
On 07.05.25, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
[commentators watching and ranting rather than doing something else]
Now-a-days there are plenty of options!!
Too many. Which is why TV shows nowadays need to be more about
telling a good story and keeping people engaged. If people get
bored halfway through a show, they'll just switch over to
something else, and if people really dislike a specific show,
they won't watch it again.
Viewer ratings are down everywhere because people have too many
options and they can dip-in and dip-out of TV shows to find
something that interests them.
These days most films even have a wiki, so I can read the plot and more >importantly the end, to see if I even want to watch it in the first
place. :)
--
Mickmane
Mickmane wrote:
On 07.05.25, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
[commentators watching and ranting rather than doing something
else]
Now-a-days there are plenty of options!!
Too many. Which is why TV shows nowadays need to be more
about telling a good story and keeping people engaged. If
people get bored halfway through a show, they'll just switch
over to something else, and if people really dislike a
specific show, they won't watch it again.
Viewer ratings are down everywhere because people have too
many options and they can dip-in and dip-out of TV shows to
find something that interests them.
These days most films even have a wiki, so I can read the plot
and more importantly the end, to see if I even want to watch
it in the first place. :)
Different!
Still, if you're in a rush I suppose it enables people to
maximise their spare time... :-)
Mickmane wrote:
On 05.05.25, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Mickmane wrote:
On 04.05.25, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Yes, we all knew that Conrad was going to be a bit of a
bastard...
I didn't.
It's TV... Nobody is THAT nice and smarmy without having some
agenda.
Meh. I object! If it's that predictable, it should not be used.
Well, I am sure some people might have thought Conrad was a
genuine bloke and that himself and Ruby would live happily ever
after.
I didn't!
It's a trope! ;-)
Lame.
There will always be some sort of trope in an ongoing TV series.
A seemingly good guy that is really a bad guy is fairly common.
Oh, and beware of fake news too... we all know about that
one don't we? So never believe what they tell you. It's
all a conspiracy! #DemandTheTruth
Yeah, Soap boxing, sigh. Reminded me of good old Quincy,
where every episode was about one soap box or another.
It's TV... There has to be a 'message' in everything!
I object!
A script is telling a story, there will usually be some sort of
message. Okay, maybe sometimes it can be a bit more in your face
these days as writers and producers think we are all stupid. But
Doctor Who having a message is nothing new... for instance, "The
Green Death" (from 1973) had a message in the script and it
worked well within the story... it was not in-your-face "soap
boxing" the way modern TV shows go about it.
Just as there's always a twist at the end, there's always a
message to get across.
If it's that predictable, it's no longer a valid element of a
story.
Depends on what the message is and how good the actual story
that it's wrapped up in is. It doesn't always have to be a
political allegory... but there's usually some sort of a
message somewhere, even if it's only subtle. Unfortunately RTD
doesn't tend to do subtle!
as well as being a [kind of] prequel setting up "The War
Between the Land and the Sea"
What? What did I miss?
Nothing yet. Prequel means before...
But you said something about setting up. What was there that
set up anything?
The spin-off show "The War Between the Land and the Sea", which
will feature the UNIT characters featured in this episode... as
well as the Sea Devils.
(This has been mentioned here before.)
Stay tuned until November/December for the answer.
What? Why then?
That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will be
broadcast...
In article <xn0p5io2s9pgcc4000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Mickmane wrote:
On 05.05.25, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Stay tuned until November/December for the answer.
What? Why then?
That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will be
broadcast...
All will be revealed.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p5io2s9pgcc4000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Mickmane wrote:
On 05.05.25, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Stay tuned until November/December for the answer.
What? Why then?
That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will be
broadcast...
All will be revealed.
Another great insight there Dave...
I'm sure the usual suspects will complain about it once it does
air though... the Sea Devils didn't exactly go down well on
their last outing three years ago.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p5io2s9pgcc4000@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Mickmane wrote:
On 05.05.25, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Stay tuned until November/December for the answer.
What? Why then?
That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will be
broadcast...
All will be revealed.
Another great insight there Dave...
I'm sure the usual suspects will complain about it once it does air
though
... the Sea Devils didn't exactly go down well on their last outing
three years ago.
On 8/05/2025 7:32 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p5io2s9pgcc4000@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will
be broadcast...
All will be revealed.
Another great insight there Dave...
I'm sure the usual suspects will complain about it once it
does air though
And who on Earth could you be refering to there, Blueshirt??
Let me guess ..... Umm!! Umm!!
... the Sea Devils didn't exactly go down well on their last
outing three years ago.
But that was then. This is NOW!! (living in HOPE!!)
Daniel70 wrote:
On 8/05/2025 7:32 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p5io2s9pgcc4000@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will
be broadcast...
All will be revealed.
Another great insight there Dave...
I'm sure the usual suspects will complain about it once it
does air though
And who on Earth could you be refering to there, Blueshirt??
Let me guess ..... Umm!! Umm!!
To be fair, I didn't think much of "Legend of the Sea Devils"
either... the story or the Sea Devils themselves. So it'll be
interesting to see how they are depicted in the spin-off. (Not
leaping around like Super Mario hopefully!)
After the Daleks the Sea Devils were my favourite Doctor Who
'monster'...
... the Sea Devils didn't exactly go down well on their lastBut that was then. This is NOW!! (living in HOPE!!)
outing three years ago.
We always live in hope!
On 8/05/2025 7:32 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0p5io2s9pgcc4000@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Mickmane wrote:
On 05.05.25, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Stay tuned until November/December for the answer.
What? Why then?
That's when "The War Between the Land and the Sea" will be
broadcast...
All will be revealed.
Another great insight there Dave...
I'm sure the usual suspects will complain about it once it does air
though
And who on Earth could you be refering to there, Blueshirt??
Let me guess ..... Umm!! Umm!!
... the Sea Devils didn't exactly go down well on their last outingBut that was then. This is NOW!! (living in HOPE!!)
three years ago.
--
Daniel70
In article <vviat6$1qji3$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
But that was then. This is NOW!! (living in HOPE!!)
Whe was the last live DW Episode you saw?