• Re: 128 Orders of Magnitude

    From HenHanna@21:1/5 to James Dow Allen on Fri Jun 20 02:54:05 2025
    On Sat, 15 May 2021 13:23:24 +0000, James Dow Allen wrote:

    This is NOT a puzzle. I'm posting here because I had (and still have?) friends
    in this newsgroup who might be inspired to somehow devise a puzzle from
    some of the information in the following webpage:
    https://james.fabpedigree.com/yscaling.htm
    It is a chart with three columns (the wavelength, energy, and
    mass-equivalent of a photon) and 128 rows (for 128 orders of magnitude).

    I produced the table to help me practice metric prefixes!

    Dearest regards, James Dow Allen (mail address: jamesdowallen at gmail)


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    that could be similar to what Smullyan called a Meta-puzzle.

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  • From David Entwistle@21:1/5 to HenHanna on Sat Jun 21 05:59:29 2025
    On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 02:54:05 +0000, HenHanna wrote:

    This is NOT a puzzle. I'm posting here because I had (and still have?)
    friends in this newsgroup who might be inspired to somehow devise a
    puzzle from some of the information in the following webpage:
    https://james.fabpedigree.com/yscaling.htm
    It is a chart with three columns (the wavelength, energy, and
    mass-equivalent of a photon) and 128 rows (for 128 orders of
    magnitude).

    Excellent information.

    Have NPL'S website got quetta (Q) (10^30) wrong, or is that a language /
    usage thing?

    https://www.npl.co.uk/resources/the-si-units/si-prefix

    All the BIMP references I've seen confirm quecca for 10^30.

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    David Entwistle

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  • From David Entwistle@21:1/5 to David Entwistle on Mon Jun 23 15:57:14 2025
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 05:59:29 -0000 (UTC), David Entwistle wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 02:54:05 +0000, HenHanna wrote:

    This is NOT a puzzle. I'm posting here because I had (and still
    have?)
    friends in this newsgroup who might be inspired to somehow devise a
    puzzle from some of the information in the following webpage:
    https://james.fabpedigree.com/yscaling.htm
    It is a chart with three columns (the wavelength, energy, and
    mass-equivalent of a photon) and 128 rows (for 128 orders of
    magnitude).

    Excellent information.

    Have NPL'S website got quetta (Q) (10^30) wrong, or is that a language / usage thing?

    https://www.npl.co.uk/resources/the-si-units/si-prefix

    All the BIMP references I've seen confirm quecca for 10^30.

    In response to a request for clarification, I have received the following information from the NPL, quoted without permission (I'm sure they won't
    mind).

    <start quote>

    Just wanted to follow up on your recent feedback submission to the NPL website.
    I can confirm that the terminology on our website is correct and that the
    below are the official CGPM approved names/terminology for the new
    prefixes:

    quetta (symbol Q) for 10^30 or 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
    000
    quecto (symbol q) for 10^−30 or 0.000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
    001

    From your feedback form, you refer to quecca for 10^−30, which is where I
    am assuming the potential confusion lies. This was part of an original suggestion, which was then subsequently changed to quecto ahead of the
    final CGPM vote, as 'quecca’ is quite close to a Portuguese profanity,
    (which is best avoided when the language is spoken by 250 million
    globally!)

    For more information, please see our news story related to the expansion:
    SI Prefix expansion - NPL

    https://www.npl.co.uk/news/si-prefix-expansion

    <end quote>

    So, the formal SI prefix for 10^30 is quetta and not quecca.

    The BIPM articles I'd been looking at were probably discussion documents
    and outdated.

    Best wishes,
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    David Entwistle

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