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On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 14:58:55 -0000 (UTC), Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:

On 2024-09-02, Tilde <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

In this Web-site, there are new entries (with Dates) every day.

Which web site? Though I suppose that doesn't
matter

Language Log.

« Previous Page — « Previous Entries     Next Entries » — Next Page »

Self explanatory (in English)

"Older/newer" would be. "Previous/next" is not, because it is
ambiguous in this context whether "next" refers to older or newer
entries. It's a blog, so your default starting point is at the
end, which renders the notions of "next" and "previous" iffy.

Actually, now that I'm looking more closely at the footer at Language
Log, it's even more confusing, because "page" and "entries" are
separate links that go in opposite directions. Say, you're on page 3.
So these are the footer links:

« Previous Page – « Previous Entries Next Entries » — Next Page »

And here's where they'll take you:

Previous Page: page 2
Previous Entries: page 4
Next Entries: page 2
Next Page: page 4

Ha! Apparently, the Language log is top-posted -- which does
make some sense.

Previoius and Next Entries then make obvious sense.

Previous and Next Page give a conflict between the physical
(what has been read) and the logical (what has been written).
On first reading, I mistook it, thinking that Page would be a
bigger jump than Entry, in the same direction.

Page Up and Page Down would be a nicer pairing for the
ordinary reader.

--
Rich Ulrich

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XPost: sci.lang, alt.usage.english

On 9/2/2024 9:12 AM, Rich Ulrich wrote:

On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 14:58:55 -0000 (UTC), Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:

On 2024-09-02, Tilde <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

In this Web-site, there are new entries (with Dates) every day.

Language Log.

« Previous Page — « Previous Entries     Next Entries » — Next Page »

Self explanatory (in English)

"Older/newer" would be. "Previous/next" is not, because it is
ambiguous in this context whether "next" refers to older or newer
entries. It's a blog, so your default starting point is at the
end, which renders the notions of "next" and "previous" iffy.

Actually, now that I'm looking more closely at the footer at Language
Log, it's even more confusing, because "page" and "entries" are
separate links that go in opposite directions. Say, you're on page 3.
So these are the footer links:

« Previous Page – « Previous Entries Next Entries » — Next Page » >>
And here's where they'll take you:

Previous Page: page 2
Previous Entries: page 4
Next Entries: page 2
Next Page: page 4

Ha! Apparently, the Language log is top-posted -- which does
make some sense.

Previous and Next Entries then make obvious sense.

Previous and Next Page give a conflict between the physical
(what has been read) and the logical (what has been written).
On first reading, I mistook it, thinking that Page would be a
bigger jump than Entry, in the same direction.

Page Up and Page Down would be a nicer pairing for the ordinary reader.

(generally) "Previous" is syn. with "earlier"


Previous Page: page 2 -- "Previous" means [The page where you were
probably at Previously]

Previous Entries: page 4 -- "Previous" means "earlier date"

Next Entries: page 2 -- "Next" means "Later date"

Next Page: page 4 -- "Next" means [.........]



_____________________________ When you realize how poorly these buttons
are named, you understand why (some of) these Linguists are such bad
writers.


i suppose... on a DVD player, these 4 buttons would correspond to

- Fast-Rewind
- Rewind
- Play
- Fast-Forward

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