• restarting rec.photo.moderated

    From Ivan Shmakov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 27 06:20:17 2025
    XPost: rec.photo.misc

    (I'm cross-posting this article to news:rec.photo.misc , as
    suggested in news:vs73t3$3hlga$2@dont-email.me , but setting
    Followup-To: news:rec.photo.digital as it seems to be about
    the only active newsgroup under rec.photo.)

    Back in January, the Big-8 Management Board have initiated [1]
    a discussion on the removal of moderated newsgroups that
    currently have no moderator, and are hence unusable. One of
    such groups is rec.photo.moderated . In March, I've volunteered
    (see References:) to take over its moderation.

    The group's creation RfD, including its charter, is at [2].

    [1] Subject: 1st RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator
    Followup-To: news.groups.proposals
    Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 20:33:02 EST
    Message-ID: <vla2t6$5g57$1@dont-email.me>
    [2] http://ftp.isc.org/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/rec/rec.photo.moderated

    Like I've mentioned, I've never had much interest in moderated
    newsgroups before, much less been a moderator of one, so I can't
    promise smooth operation, especially right from the start.

    And regardless, I'd prefer not doing the thing entirely on my
    own; anyone here interested in taking part, perchance?

    My plan is to set up message submission email addresses aliased
    to my own mailbox, and approve (or not approve) them from there.
    Should there ever be any co-moderators, I'd move submissions to
    a password-protected portion of an https: website and provide
    an HTTP/1-based API (usable with curl(1) and compatible with
    Lynx, naturally) to approve the messages there.

    The group's charter [2] has the following bit:

    Postings must bear the submitter's real name and contain a valid
    reply address.

    I don't find the 'real name' requirement /enforceable/ (we
    don't have photo IDs on Usenet, after all.) In its stead,
    I'm going to require a /consistent/ identity. In particular,
    those who publish their photos under an alias are free to use
    that same alias for their r.p.m postings.

    Having a valid reply address (From: or Reply-To:) wouldn't
    be a strict requirement, either, but without the means of
    contacting the poster, I wouldn't be able to explain my
    reasons for rejecting their article.

    JFTR, I'm a lifelong personal computing amateur, but my
    interest in photography is relatively recent. /Some/ of my
    photographs (among other media) can be found at [3]. As can
    be seen, my primary camera (body) is Pentax K-5.

    Thoughts?

    [3] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Ivan_Shmakov

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Ivan Shmakov on Sun Apr 27 08:19:25 2025
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 27/04/2025 07:20, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
    (I'm cross-posting this article to news:rec.photo.misc , as
    suggested in news:vs73t3$3hlga$2@dont-email.me , but setting
    Followup-To: news:rec.photo.digital as it seems to be about
    the only active newsgroup under rec.photo.)

    Back in January, the Big-8 Management Board have initiated [1]
    a discussion on the removal of moderated newsgroups that
    currently have no moderator, and are hence unusable. One of
    such groups is rec.photo.moderated . In March, I've volunteered
    (see References:) to take over its moderation.

    The group's creation RfD, including its charter, is at [2].

    [1] Subject: 1st RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator
    Followup-To: news.groups.proposals
    Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 20:33:02 EST
    Message-ID: <vla2t6$5g57$1@dont-email.me>
    [2] http://ftp.isc.org/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/rec/rec.photo.moderated

    Like I've mentioned, I've never had much interest in moderated
    newsgroups before, much less been a moderator of one, so I can't
    promise smooth operation, especially right from the start.

    And regardless, I'd prefer not doing the thing entirely on my
    own; anyone here interested in taking part, perchance?

    My plan is to set up message submission email addresses aliased
    to my own mailbox, and approve (or not approve) them from there.
    Should there ever be any co-moderators, I'd move submissions to
    a password-protected portion of an https: website and provide
    an HTTP/1-based API (usable with curl(1) and compatible with
    Lynx, naturally) to approve the messages there.

    The group's charter [2] has the following bit:

    rpm> Postings must bear the submitter's real name and contain a valid
    rpm> reply address.

    I don't find the 'real name' requirement /enforceable/ (we
    don't have photo IDs on Usenet, after all.) In its stead,
    I'm going to require a /consistent/ identity. In particular,
    those who publish their photos under an alias are free to use
    that same alias for their r.p.m postings.

    Having a valid reply address (From: or Reply-To:) wouldn't
    be a strict requirement, either, but without the means of
    contacting the poster, I wouldn't be able to explain my
    reasons for rejecting their article.

    JFTR, I'm a lifelong personal computing amateur, but my
    interest in photography is relatively recent. /Some/ of my
    photographs (among other media) can be found at [3]. As can
    be seen, my primary camera (body) is Pentax K-5.

    Thoughts?

    [3] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Ivan_Shmakov


    *Good luck with your group*, Ivan! 🙂

    Cross-posted to my friends in ACW

    Someone there may wish to help you.

    --
    Kind regards,
    David
    Devon, UK

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  • From peterwn@21:1/5 to Brock McNuggets on Sun Apr 27 16:28:47 2025
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in news:680e4de0$11$21$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    On Apr 27, 2025 at 12:19:25 AM MST, "David" wrote <m7643tFebcvU1@mid.individual.net>:

    On 27/04/2025 07:20, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
    (I'm cross-posting this article to news:rec.photo.misc , as
    suggested in news:vs73t3$3hlga$2@dont-email.me , but setting
    Followup-To: news:rec.photo.digital as it seems to be about
    the only active newsgroup under rec.photo.)

    Back in January, the Big-8 Management Board have initiated [1]
    a discussion on the removal of moderated newsgroups that
    currently have no moderator, and are hence unusable. One of
    such groups is rec.photo.moderated . In March, I've volunteered
    (see References:) to take over its moderation.

    The group's creation RfD, including its charter, is at [2].

    [1] Subject: 1st RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a
    moderator
    Followup-To: news.groups.proposals
    Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 20:33:02 EST
    Message-ID: <vla2t6$5g57$1@dont-email.me>
    [2]
    http://ftp.isc.org/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/rec/rec.photo.moder
    ated

    Like I've mentioned, I've never had much interest in moderated
    newsgroups before, much less been a moderator of one, so I can't
    promise smooth operation, especially right from the start.

    And regardless, I'd prefer not doing the thing entirely on my
    own; anyone here interested in taking part, perchance?

    My plan is to set up message submission email addresses aliased
    to my own mailbox, and approve (or not approve) them from there.
    Should there ever be any co-moderators, I'd move submissions to
    a password-protected portion of an https: website and provide
    an HTTP/1-based API (usable with curl(1) and compatible with
    Lynx, naturally) to approve the messages there.

    The group's charter [2] has the following bit:

    rpm> Postings must bear the submitter's real name and contain a
    valid rpm> reply address.

    I don't find the 'real name' requirement /enforceable/ (we
    don't have photo IDs on Usenet, after all.) In its stead,
    I'm going to require a /consistent/ identity. In particular,
    those who publish their photos under an alias are free to use
    that same alias for their r.p.m postings.

    Having a valid reply address (From: or Reply-To:) wouldn't
    be a strict requirement, either, but without the means of
    contacting the poster, I wouldn't be able to explain my
    reasons for rejecting their article.

    JFTR, I'm a lifelong personal computing amateur, but my
    interest in photography is relatively recent. /Some/ of my
    photographs (among other media) can be found at [3]. As can
    be seen, my primary camera (body) is Pentax K-5.

    Thoughts?

    [3] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Ivan_Shmakov


    *Good luck with your group*, Ivan! 🙂

    Cross-posted to my friends in ACW

    Someone there may wish to help you.

    I wonder how ACW would be different if it was moderated.


    You wouldn't be allowed to troll here in ACW snit.
    Nobody likes you.
    Nobody wants you posting here.
    People wish you would simply go away.

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