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On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 00:15:19 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Krygowski is normally pretty careful with his wording but socoialism is his >entire belief system and he has argued its advantages. He claims that >social security and medicare make this country a socialism.
Social security is a socialist policy. Right wing countries
tend to leave the poor and weak to fend for themselves. The case of
your half brother's 99 year old mother. If she no longer generates a
profit let her die, or let her offspring go bankrupt taking care of
her.
I can't even imagine a 99 year old being abandoned by the
state in most EU countries.
Medicare is NOT a socialist concept, since health care is
passed on to private firms that make a profit out of sickness. A
socialist country would hire, administer and define policies for
healthcare itself, never outsource it to some money-grabbing
"investor".
Which is why the US has one of the most expensive and less
efficient healthcare systems in the World. Even Cuba does better in
some areas, like infant mortality rate.
The US will never become a "socialism", whatever you mean by
that. Last election the high and mighty presented you with 2 choices:
a far-right wing completely senile orange felon lobbying for media monopolies/oil industry and a woman backed by the Bush family lobbying
for the arms industry.
Neither of them care about 99 year old women.
I wouldn't have bothered even voting. The US has that option.
Here voting is mandatory for anyone between 18 and 70. I didn't even
bother voting in the last elections.(I did vote in 2022 though....
anything to get Bolsonaro out)
On Fri, 01 Nov 2024 17:40:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Oct 30 16:03:17 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 10/30/2024 12:48 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 11:30:49 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/30/2024 11:11 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:degree/
... your seeming belief that everyone whould have a college education. >> >>I'm assuming you meant "should." But no, I've never believed everyone >> >> should have a college education. I came across many students who should >> >> not have attempted to get a degree, and AFAIK never did get one. You, >> >> Tom, would have been one of those, if you had qualified to even enter my
program.
Most jobs are trades and most graduates do not work ONE day in their >> >>> majors.
The latter half of that sentence is absolutely false. Especially for
engineering fields.
https://ira.asee.org/survey-most-engineers-work-in-jobs-related-to-their-
Of all of the places I ever worked you are the only one to honestly
believe I was unqualified. So you are a minority of one.
no, I firmly believe you are/were unqualified for any of the positions
you claim to have held. I'm sure we aren't the only ones in this forum
that agree on that.
--
Add xx to reply
And you beliefs are worth exactly what? I'm meetoing my brother for lunch today
and we'll stop at the bank and I will give him $30,000.
Why? Is he retarded or something?
Why on earth would he need money? What's his problem,
drugs/alcohol or gambling?
On Thu Nov 7 07:54:33 2024 Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 00:15:19 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Krygowski is normally pretty careful with his wording but socoialism is his >>> entire belief system and he has argued its advantages. He claims that
social security and medicare make this country a socialism.
Social security is a socialist policy. Right wing countries
tend to leave the poor and weak to fend for themselves. The case of
your half brother's 99 year old mother. If she no longer generates a
profit let her die, or let her offspring go bankrupt taking care of
her.
I can't even imagine a 99 year old being abandoned by the
state in most EU countries.
Medicare is NOT a socialist concept, since health care is
passed on to private firms that make a profit out of sickness. A
socialist country would hire, administer and define policies for
healthcare itself, never outsource it to some money-grabbing
"investor".
Which is why the US has one of the most expensive and less
efficient healthcare systems in the World. Even Cuba does better in
some areas, like infant mortality rate.
The US will never become a "socialism", whatever you mean by
that. Last election the high and mighty presented you with 2 choices:
a far-right wing completely senile orange felon lobbying for media
monopolies/oil industry and a woman backed by the Bush family lobbying
for the arms industry.
Neither of them care about 99 year old women.
I wouldn't have bothered even voting. The US has that option.
Here voting is mandatory for anyone between 18 and 70. I didn't even
bother voting in the last elections.(I did vote in 2022 though....
anything to get Bolsonaro out)
Social Security is NOT a socialist program. It is a government plan to FORCE you to save for the future because there are people like Flunky who believe that you should spend anything you have. This adds the benefit of having your employer add half ofthe SS payments as an additional salary. SS is presently self sustaining though Medicare is not.
On 1/6/2025 11:12 AM, cyclintom wrote:the SS payments as an additional salary. SS is presently self sustaining though Medicare is not.
On Thu Nov 7 07:54:33 2024 Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 00:15:19 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Krygowski is normally pretty careful with his wording but socoialism is his
entire belief system and he has argued its advantages. He claims that
social security and medicare make this country a socialism.
Social security is a socialist policy. Right wing countries
tend to leave the poor and weak to fend for themselves. The case of
your half brother's 99 year old mother. If she no longer generates a
profit let her die, or let her offspring go bankrupt taking care of
her.
I can't even imagine a 99 year old being abandoned by the
state in most EU countries.
Medicare is NOT a socialist concept, since health care is
passed on to private firms that make a profit out of sickness. A
socialist country would hire, administer and define policies for
healthcare itself, never outsource it to some money-grabbing
"investor".
Which is why the US has one of the most expensive and less
efficient healthcare systems in the World. Even Cuba does better in
some areas, like infant mortality rate.
The US will never become a "socialism", whatever you mean by
that. Last election the high and mighty presented you with 2 choices:
a far-right wing completely senile orange felon lobbying for media
monopolies/oil industry and a woman backed by the Bush family lobbying
for the arms industry.
Neither of them care about 99 year old women.
I wouldn't have bothered even voting. The US has that option.
Here voting is mandatory for anyone between 18 and 70. I didn't even
bother voting in the last elections.(I did vote in 2022 though....
anything to get Bolsonaro out)
Social Security is NOT a socialist program. It is a government plan to FORCE you to save for the future because there are people like Flunky who believe that you should spend anything you have. This adds the benefit of having your employer add half of
Absolute BS.
It is a socialist program, your payments do not provide for
your benefits, it's broke and stretching out a lingering
death, actuarily speaking.
On 1/6/2025 11:12 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Nov 7 07:54:33 2024 Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 00:15:19 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Krygowski is normally pretty careful with his wording but socoialism
is his
entire belief system and he has argued its advantages. He claims that
social security and medicare make this country a socialism.
Social security is a socialist policy. Right wing countries
tend to leave the poor and weak to fend for themselves. The case of
your half brother's 99 year old mother. If she no longer generates a
profit let her die, or let her offspring go bankrupt taking care of
her.
I can't even imagine a 99 year old being abandoned by the
state in most EU countries.
Medicare is NOT a socialist concept, since health care is
passed on to private firms that make a profit out of sickness. A
socialist country would hire, administer and define policies for
healthcare itself, never outsource it to some money-grabbing
"investor".
Which is why the US has one of the most expensive and less
efficient healthcare systems in the World. Even Cuba does better in
some areas, like infant mortality rate.
The US will never become a "socialism", whatever you mean by
that. Last election the high and mighty presented you with 2 choices:
a far-right wing completely senile orange felon lobbying for media
monopolies/oil industry and a woman backed by the Bush family lobbying
for the arms industry.
Neither of them care about 99 year old women.
I wouldn't have bothered even voting. The US has that option.
Here voting is mandatory for anyone between 18 and 70. I didn't even
bother voting in the last elections.(I did vote in 2022 though....
anything to get Bolsonaro out)
Social Security is NOT a socialist program. It is a government plan to
FORCE you to save for the future because there are people like Flunky
who believe that you should spend anything you have. This adds the
benefit of having your employer add half of the SS payments as an
additional salary. SS is presently self sustaining though Medicare is
not.
Absolute BS.
It is a socialist program, your payments do not provide for your
benefits, it's broke and stretching out a lingering death, actuarily speaking.
If you continue to talk about things you know nothing about, you will soon grow a reputation like Liebermann. Congress in all its wisdom allowed the Union Pacfic railrosd to purechase the Southern Pacific railroad for which my brother worked for hisentire life without honoring the union contract that the SP had negotiated. Overnight my brother went from living comfotably with a good retirement income and good health insurance to living on Social Security and Medicare.
Congress in all its wisdom allowed the Union Pacfic railrosd to purechase
the Southern Pacific railroad for which my brother worked for his entire life >without honoring the union contract that the SP had negotiated.
Overnight my brother went from living comfotably with a good retirement income >and good health insurance to living on Social Security and Medicare.
On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 17:03:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Congress in all its wisdom allowed the Union Pacfic railrosd to purechase
the Southern Pacific railroad for which my brother worked for his entire life
without honoring the union contract that the SP had negotiated.
Sounds very "repuglican" to me. Uggh !!!
That was in 1996, right? Who had the majority?
Overnight my brother went from living comfotably with a good retirement income
and good health insurance to living on Social Security and Medicare.
It's what you get when you vote far-right.
Well, at least you learned something.
[]'s
On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 17:03:41 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>entire life without honoring the union contract that the SP had negotiated. Overnight my brother went from living comfotably with a good retirement income and good health insurance to living on Social Security and Medicare.
wrote:
If you continue to talk about things you know nothing about, you will soon grow a reputation like Liebermann. Congress in all its wisdom allowed the Union Pacfic railrosd to purechase the Southern Pacific railroad for which my brother worked for his
I don't think so. It was your father who worked for the railroads.
I've also had some difficulty determining if you have one or two
brothers and seem to have converted your deceased father into one of
the brothers.
05/23/2023 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/yrUBh48nqL8/m/m3DjwtQ4AAAJ> "I have two brothers that believed the shit the Democrats were passing
out and never saved ONE cent for their retirements. Then they both
retired and my older brother is living on social security despite my continued nagging him to put money away (he often worked two jobs with
his main job the Southern Pacific Railroad and the union telling him
he would have a rich retirement)."
His mother's obituary shows only 1 brother. His father, not brother,
was John A. Kunich (died 1987) and worked for the railroad: <https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10002-88144066/john-a-kunich-in-us-social-security-death-index-ssdi>
Violet Kunich obituary 01/03/2019 <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/evsATclH8lc/m/gDiYopJHAQAJ> <https://www.grissomsmortuary.com/obituaries/detail/violet-kunich> <https://www.echovita.com/us/obituaries/ca/san-leandro/violet-kunich-8572417>
On Thu Nov 7 07:54:33 2024 Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 00:15:19 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Krygowski is normally pretty careful with his wording but socoialism is his >> >entire belief system and he has argued its advantages. He claims that
social security and medicare make this country a socialism.
Social security is a socialist policy. Right wing countries
tend to leave the poor and weak to fend for themselves. The case of
your half brother's 99 year old mother. If she no longer generates a
profit let her die, or let her offspring go bankrupt taking care of
her.
I can't even imagine a 99 year old being abandoned by the
state in most EU countries.
Medicare is NOT a socialist concept, since health care is
passed on to private firms that make a profit out of sickness. A
socialist country would hire, administer and define policies for
healthcare itself, never outsource it to some money-grabbing
"investor".
Which is why the US has one of the most expensive and less
efficient healthcare systems in the World. Even Cuba does better in
some areas, like infant mortality rate.
The US will never become a "socialism", whatever you mean by
that. Last election the high and mighty presented you with 2 choices:
a far-right wing completely senile orange felon lobbying for media
monopolies/oil industry and a woman backed by the Bush family lobbying
for the arms industry.
Neither of them care about 99 year old women.
I wouldn't have bothered even voting. The US has that option.
Here voting is mandatory for anyone between 18 and 70. I didn't even
bother voting in the last elections.(I did vote in 2022 though....
anything to get Bolsonaro out)
Social Security is NOT a socialist program.
It is a government plan to FORCE you to save for the future because
there are people like Flunky who believe that you should spend anything you have.
This adds the benefit of having your employer add half of the SS payments
as an additional salary. SS is presently self sustaining though Medicare is not.
Is that your brother? The one you had to bail out because he didn't
save anything and was starving?
On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 16:29:46 -0500, Frank Krygowskimedical source states otherwise.
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 11/6/2024 2:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Why do you feel the need to lie about something as silly as a report printed in September of 2024? You know nothing about the vaccines and quote Biden and Fauci funded sources saying that they are "safe and effective" when virtually every real
I'm trying to remember which president bragged about "fast tracking" the >COVID vaccine and getting it out as soon as possible.
Oh, here, I just found it: >https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/operation-warp-speed-trump-pfizer-moderna-vaccine-1.5806820
Well, he got one thing right. He put Fauci in charge. Fauci
was Trump's choice....he could have chosen any one of thousands of
doctors willing to do the job.
Pity someone took a bribe somewhere along the line. Not saying
it was Trump or even Fauci. Probably an order from someone in
"intelligence".
The mRNA vaccines were not the best available. They protected
you against one particular mutation, but not the next. And that spike
protein mutated fast. It's the reason so many boosters were necessary.
OTOH, if Trump had just swallowed his pride and bought the
Chinese patents for the inactivated vaccines he would have saved a LOT
of money, and lives.
On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 07:38:46 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>medical source states otherwise.
wrote:
On 11/6/2024 6:45 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 16:29:46 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 11/6/2024 2:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Why do you feel the need to lie about something as silly as a report printed in September of 2024? You know nothing about the vaccines and quote Biden and Fauci funded sources saying that they are "safe and effective" when virtually every real
Of course, if he hadn't shut down Obamas pandemic response program,
I'm trying to remember which president bragged about "fast tracking" the >>> COVID vaccine and getting it out as soon as possible.
Oh, here, I just found it:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/operation-warp-speed-trump-pfizer-moderna-vaccine-1.5806820
Well, he got one thing right. He put Fauci in charge. Fauci
was Trump's choice....he could have chosen any one of thousands of
doctors willing to do the job.
Pity someone took a bribe somewhere along the line. Not saying
it was Trump or even Fauci. Probably an order from someone in
"intelligence".
The mRNA vaccines were not the best available. They protected
you against one particular mutation, but not the next. And that spike
protein mutated fast. It's the reason so many boosters were necessary.
OTOH, if Trump had just swallowed his pride and bought the
Chinese patents for the inactivated vaccines he would have saved a LOT
of money, and lives.
[]'s
less live would have been lost as well.
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ap-top-news-virus-outbreak-barack-obama-public-health-ce014d94b64e98b7203b873e56f80e9a
Obama's response to the Ebola epidemic was legendary. He
literally killed it before it began.
Of course, if you cut taxes the obscenely rich pay, like Trump
did, there's less money left for absolutely essential services like
public health.
Fauci has been head of the CDC for 40 years.
On Wed Nov 6 16:29:46 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:medical source states otherwise.
On 11/6/2024 2:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Why do you feel the need to lie about something as silly as a report printed in September of 2024? You know nothing about the vaccines and quote Biden and Fauci funded sources saying that they are "safe and effective" when virtually every real
I'm trying to remember which president bragged about "fast tracking" the
COVID vaccine and getting it out as soon as possible.
Oh, here, I just found it:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/operation-warp-speed-trump-pfizer-moderna-vaccine-1.5806820
Neil Oliver STUNNED as Dutch Official Reveals Covid-19 Was 'MILITARY Operation' in SHOCK Admission
On Thu Nov 7 14:46:15 2024 Shadow wrote:
Obama's response to the Ebola epidemic was legendary. He
literally killed it before it began.
Of course, if you cut taxes the obscenely rich pay, like Trump
did, there's less money left for absolutely essential services like
public health.
Where did you get your degree in economics? Must be a PhD - Phenomiminally hellishly Dumb