On Sat Jan 4 20:32:22 2025 Shadow wrote:

On Fri, 03 Jan 2025 23:47:36 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:

On Mon Oct 21 17:03:08 2024 Shadow wrote:

Ah, that explains it. Slocomb I mean.

Still not what the government does with people that are unable
to work.
PS I also read that although Thailand claims it has a 1%
unemployment rate, it considers people living at home in the rural
districts as "fully employed". And those are almost 50% of the
population. If they don't pay taxes and have no benefits from the
government at all, and live on a sub-minimum wage, I'd call them
"unemployed". But statistics accept anything...

Well, you obviously have a working knowledge of statistics. So let's test it hopefully to the breaking point.

Somewhere you said that Norway had a 10th of the Covid-19 deaths as Sweden.

No, I never said that. I DID link to a good, solid medical
article that showed how and why Sweden failed miserably to contain the pandemic. You probably got lost with all the pretty graphs....

<https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8807990/>

A pretty graph:

<https://cdn.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/blobs/f47b/8807990/8a5b1a53fd9c/10.1177_14034948211047137-fig1.jpg>

Sweden relied on "natural" immunity**. That didn't work
anywhere on Earth,
[]'s

** until they didn't. Then they tried lockdowns, social distancing,
mandatory vaccinations etc, but only after it was too late.

Let's look into that. Norway had the overwhelmingly worst Covid-19 policies of ALL of Europe. They were not welding the doors closed as they were doing in China but not very different. They had a total lockdown. So they had a VERY STRONG reason to

show that their policy was effective. And I think that being able to say that your policies prevented 90% of the deaths registered elsewhere is a pretty convincing argument.

The problem with it is that it s a total fabrication. This is demonstrated clearly by the fact that Norway had more excess deaths than Sweden per capital. Norway simply gave other causes for the excess deaths. If you put a person long term on a

ventelator because they are having breathing problems they almost ALWAYS develop pneumonia as the ventelator will drive a virus into the lower lungs. Causing pneumonia.

The vaccination rates in Norway and Sweden were about the same and pretty high. And deaths from Myo and Peri-carditis were high. Studies of autopsys of people who took mRNA injections had 80%!!!!!! of them had either white fibrous blood clots or "

Grape Jelly" blood cloting which heretofor was only seen in patients on statins. They have not been able so far to tell what this white fibrous clotting is, but it ONLY appears in people with mRNA GMO's.

What all of this means is that Norway did NOT have a lower rate of deaths from Covid-19, they simply put another name on the death DUE to covid-19.

Inasmuch as you seem to have at least a bit of understandoing of Statistical Analysis. I hope this makes sense to you.

Say, Liebermann echo, there is only ONE important thing. Sweden had LOWER excess deaths per capita than Norway and they said that it was connected with Covid-19 or the mRNA vaccines when it was.

Norway ONLY reported Covid-19 deaths when that was the ONLY cause of deaths. So death from the mRNA vaccines from Myocarditis or Pericarditis were not reported as from Covid-19 when in fact it was cardio swelling from the spike protein that came with the
vaccine.

Stop handing out bullshit like its candy.

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On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 17:32:12 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Say, Liebermann echo,

I'm honored.

Sweden had LOWER excess deaths per capita than Norway and they said that it was connected with Covid-19 or the mRNA vaccines when it was.

Norway ONLY reported Covid-19 deaths when that was the ONLY cause of deaths. So death from the mRNA vaccines from Myocarditis or Pericarditis were not reported as from Covid-19 when in fact it was cardio swelling from the spike protein that came with

the vaccine.

Stop handing out bullshit like its candy.

Ummm... let's see who is really delivering bovine feces:

"Excess mortality: Deaths from all causes compared to projection" <https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-projected-baseline?country=SWE~NOR>

The chart shows the excess deaths from ALL causes, including your
swollen ego, in Norway and Sweden since Jan 2020. Looks like Sweden
had more excess deaths than Norway from Jan 2020 to Feb 24, 2021 and
fewer excess deaths after that. In simple terms, you're wrong
(again).

Oddly, there are no numbers for 2024. Not sure yet why. This shows
that the most recent updates for Sweden were on Aug 20, 2024: <https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-projected-baseline?time=2021-10-31..latest&facet=none&country=SWE%7ENOR#sources-and-processing>
I'll see if I can figure out why the graph is missing 1 year later.

Tom... if you don't have anything better to do, you can spend some
time learning how to produce graphs using "Our World in Data" that
demonstrates your amazing facts. Who knows what you might discover?

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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On Mon Oct 21 17:03:08 2024 Shadow wrote:

Ah, that explains it. Slocomb I mean.

Still not what the government does with people that are unable
to work.
PS I also read that although Thailand claims it has a 1%
unemployment rate, it considers people living at home in the rural
districts as "fully employed". And those are almost 50% of the
population. If they don't pay taxes and have no benefits from the
government at all, and live on a sub-minimum wage, I'd call them "unemployed". But statistics accept anything...

Well, you obviously have a working knowledge of statistics. So let's test it hopefully to the breaking point.

Somewhere you said that Norway had a 10th of the Covid-19 deaths as Sweden. Let's look into that. Norway had the overwhelmingly worst Covid-19 policies of ALL of Europe. They were not welding the doors closed as they were doing in China but not very
different. They had a total lockdown. So they had a VERY STRONG reason to show that their policy was effective. And I think that being able to say that your policies prevented 90% of the deaths registered elsewhere is a pretty convincing argument.

The problem with it is that it s a total fabrication. This is demonstrated clearly by the fact that Norway had more excess deaths than Sweden per capital. Norway simply gave other causes for the excess deaths. If you put a person long term on a
ventelator because they are having breathing problems they almost ALWAYS develop pneumonia as the ventelator will drive a virus into the lower lungs. Causing pneumonia.

The vaccination rates in Norway and Sweden were about the same and pretty high. And deaths from Myo and Peri-carditis were high. Studies of autopsys of people who took mRNA injections had 80%!!!!!! of them had either white fibrous blood clots or "Grape
Jelly" blood cloting which heretofor was only seen in patients on statins. They have not been able so far to tell what this white fibrous clotting is, but it ONLY appears in people with mRNA GMO's.

What all of this means is that Norway did NOT have a lower rate of deaths from Covid-19, they simply put another name on the death DUE to covid-19.

Inasmuch as you seem to have at least a bit of understandoing of Statistical Analysis. I hope this makes sense to you.

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