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    From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 24 17:47:44 2024
    On Tue Dec 24 12:11:37 2024 zen cycle wrote:
    On 12/24/2024 11:52 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon Dec 23 06:59:04 2024 zen cycle wrote:
    On 12/22/2024 12:32 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sun Dec 15 12:56:19 2024 AMuzi wrote:
    On 12/15/2024 9:52 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 12/14/2024 10:08 PM, John B. wrote:

    So it is ELECTORAL votes that count now and not the
    "popular vote" that
    Democrats are claiming was so close. Trump won by a full
    25% of electoral
    votes and now you're hearing the Democrats crying that we
    should eliminate
    the electoral system and go with the "entirely
    Democratic" popular vote.
    Remember that Adolf Hitler was elected with the popular
    vote which is

    Nope, Hitler was appointed as Chancellor because his party
    was the
    largest in the Reichstag although not a majority.

    EXACTLY why our founding fathers preferred the electoral
    system -

    More bull shit. The U.S. was originally "designed" to be a
    union of
    states and the Electrical system was designed to give each
    state
    election authority, in presidential and vice presidential
    elections,
    based on their population.

    Not quite. The electoral college was designed so residents
    of tiny states with small populations could still feel they
    had influence. That might have made sense in the early days,
    when former colonies still thought of themselves more as
    colonists than as members of a nation.

    A few weeks ago I came across an article talking about the
    last great effort to do away with the electoral college. The
    effort was led by Senator Birch Bayh. He convinced a huge
    majority of the citizenry that it was time to dump the
    anachronism. He got strong approval in the U.S. House, but
    got filibustered in the Senate.

    The effort continued, but according to the article, two
    things prevented success. One was that some Democratic
    groups (e.g. a Black political association in New York, I
    think) realized that their influence within their state
    would be less likely to be effective nationally; and
    crucially, President Richard Nixon removed his previous
    strong support. Why? Because he got pissed at Bayh for not
    looking the other way at Nixon's own corruption.



    There are many such examples, and many more arguments were
    made, over our history.

    But, as it stands, more dead people voted in recent
    elections in Los Angeles County alone that there are living
    souls in Wyoming (registered voter and not).

    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/la-county-and-state-to-purge-15-million-inactive-voters-from-rolls/6866/

    Decentralization of elections while observing the
    sovereignty of the various States is a feature not a bug.




    I really don't know what to make of Krygowski. I became an engineer on the simple ability to think. Eisenhower chose Nixon as his running mate for the very simple reason that he was probably thge finest in6ternational scholar alive at that time. It
    was nesessary for the Demecrats to silence Nixon because not only did he make sense to most Americans but he promised the dawn of a brave new Republican world.

    Therefore the Democrats had to commit election fraud on a grander scale than they had been doing. Nixon commented on that in front of Colonel Oliver North and North decided he had to know what the Democrats' plans were. So he planned and invaded
    the Democrats inner sanctom. It was plan that Nixon had nothing to do with it because it was clumbsy and ineffective, far different from what Nixon would have done. But the Slime Stream Media dumped it into Nixon's lap and hounded him into resigning. To
    that point most of the media was at least polite. But the moment they smelled blood in the water, like the sharks they were, they were tearing Nixon to bits. I wish to remind you of Nixon's last speech. "Your President is not a crook." What's more he
    never needed to be one.

    Now here are 50 years after the event and even from that distance Krygowski still cannot think about what happened. Even with the Nixon Foundation'z vidios of Nixon speeches showing him to have been far too smart to even try something like
    Watergate.

    Krygowski insists on being stupid because Nixon was a first class Liberal whereas Frank is and remains a stupid socialist.

    dumbass, North was never involved with watergate or nixon. For that
    matter he resigned under pressure from the republican leadership. It
    might do you well to actually visit a library and read some history
    rather than just make ludicrous claims of "reading out 3 liberries"

    Inasmuch as you were in grade school at the time perhaps it is time for you to steal more of your employers time telling us what you don't know about.

    Inasmuch as North was never involved with the nixon administration on
    any level, perhaps it's time for you to try reading a little bit of
    history before further embarrassing yourself by insisting thing that
    never happened are factual.

    Of course you could settle the argument by posting a reference that
    backs up your claim. Good luck with that.





    Flunky believes the Democrat's version of what happened. He thinks that Archebald Cox was a "historian" though part of the open attack on Nixon, a registered Democrat who the Democrats wouldn't touch when he approved of the far left Supreme Court judges
    they wanted installed.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 24 17:56:40 2024
    On Sun Dec 22 14:39:18 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 12/22/2024 12:51 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon Dec 16 22:36:57 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 12/16/2024 5:59 PM, cyclintom wrote:

    I will just note that Frank feels very uncomrfortable when I keep making points. According to him Trump barely won when in fact he held a 75/25 victory.

    Oh, please DO show us your "75/25" computations in detail!

    After telling us that you had to teach high level math it sort of stood out that you didn't correct me.

    It's obvious your "75/25" statement was wrong. If you want me to correct
    your math in detail - that is, so you wouldn't repeat your mistake -
    you'd have to show me your work.

    You've refused to do that. I can't help you.




    I did show my work and that ass Liebermann showed that he cannot do simple arithmetic. Why don't you use his garbage and claim it is correct?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 24 17:24:12 2024
    On Tue Dec 24 12:04:43 2024 zen cycle wrote:
    On 12/24/2024 11:20 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon Dec 23 06:50:01 2024 zen cycle wrote:
    On 12/21/2024 5:12 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sun Dec 8 23:40:19 2024 zen cycle wrote:
    7

    I was never in the military


    Then what makes you think that you know anything about it?

    oh, gee, I don't know, maybe because my father was in the army for 22
    years and I spent the first 18 years of my life living on military bases >> all over the world? IOW, I spent a lot more time in my life living a
    military life than you did.

    Shall we consider everything you were never involved in but claim to be
    an expert on?

    Is this another of you fake news that Shadow is an MD?

    No, it's another case of you being proven wrong yet again and refusing
    to admit it


    Flunky tells us that he isn't a QC manager and then gives us a fancy title that means QC manager.

    No, tommy, Regulatory Engineer doesn't mean QC manager. If I was a QC
    manager I would say so. Besides that a QC manager is generally a higher
    level position than a regulatory engineer, pays more, reports directly
    to the CEO, and has a great deal more authority regarding manufacturing
    processes and controls. So, no matter how many time _you_ try to defined >> my job to something that makes you feel better about your own pathetic
    and miserable life, you'll always be wrong, and still rather clueless.

    I'm impressed, Aren't you?

    You should be, considering your complete lack of production and
    achievement throughout your life.





    There you have it directly from the mind of the mindless.

    that sort of self-denigration really isn't good for you. Seek help.

    He know ALL about the service because his FATHER was a lifer.

    I wouldn't say _all_ about it, but I certainly have more experience in military life than you.

    Thos is exactly why he could get a job better than being QC. Because he already knows everything.

    Where did you get the idea I know everything? I simply know more than
    you (pretty low bar, actually).




    Your practice of abusing the English language doesn't impress anyone. The fact is that a QC manager that plays on the newsgroups all day every day doesn't know anything. Stop pretending you do. I have a million dollars in investments that show that your
    comments are really stupid.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 26 18:45:31 2024
    On Thu Dec 26 09:08:05 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 12/24/2024 4:11 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon Dec 23 07:03:41 2024 zen cycle wrote:
    On 12/21/2024 5:02 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Dec 17 16:43:20 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 12/17/2024 4:02 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 17:37:06 -0500, Zen Cycle wrote:

    On 12/16/2024 5:24 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon Dec 9 06:26:53 2024 zen cycle wrote:

    yeah, a B-52 pilot would allow an airman with no pilot training to fly
    his plane...lol...sure tommy. Tell us another one....

    Iws there anything in thie lifrtime where you will say something tht >>>>>>> you actually know rather than pretend to know because there isn't >>>>>>> anything that you do know?

    tell us again how how 226 EC votes for harris and 312 EC votes for trump
    is 25%/75?

    Most people that were capable of simple arithmatic would have left that >>>>> alone. But not Flunky, he has to demonstrate why his is called Flunky. >>>>> 312/226 = 1.36 Or Trump had a 36% lead

    Most people capable of simple arithmetic know that is not how one
    derives percentages of a total.

    DESPITE massive election fraud in
    California and New York.

    That's a lie

    In California they stopped counting the votes in
    front of the voter so that they could toss out Republican votes.

    That's a lie

    <snipped incoherent babble>

    The man whose bewildering linkedin reference claims he's 'capable of >>>> applying complex calculus' first claims a vote result of 312/226 is
    75%/25%, then claims it's 36%.

    Go ahead tommy, this should be childs play for a software genius like >>>> you - show us the work of how you got 75%/25% from 312/226




    Tell us all how you know what happens in California?

    By paying attention t=rahter than flinging shit and claimin it's fact.


    Is this more of your expert advice on friction shifting?

    You could look at it that way, considering everything I've claimed about >> racing with friction shiffters has been backed up by other commenters
    here, and youre the only oen making ignorant claims about it.

    Besides, you still haven't shown us this magical math where a vote
    result of 312/226 is 75%/25%,

    We're still waiting.....




    Your pretense at knowledge is worth nothing.

    It has enough value to keep me gainfully employed and three different companies for ten years each - a far cry better than your record.

    Paying attention?

    Yes, you might want to try it some time. You might not embarrass
    yourself with claims like a member of this forum is argentinian when he
    is brazilian and is a retired doctor.


    You stupid mother fucker felt compeled to tell me what was happening in a parking lot I ride through.

    I never did that.

    Then you tell me that there were dozens of jobs in Alameda

    There are.

    and they weren't moving part of their company out

    I never made that claim.

    simply because businesses are paying 40% of their profits to Gavin Loathsome.

    Sure, Sure, Newsome is personally getting 40% of Abbot Industries
    profits, lol....

    When I applied for one of those jobs I was offered those jobs in Arizona amd Texas.

    No, you weren't. You never applied for them, and you were never offered
    jobs. The jobs are in Alameda, as is evidenced by the the listings themselves, which state explicitly "this position is in our Alameda facility".

    You are nothiung but mouth and too much a coward to tell us your employer's name.

    If you were half the brilliant reearcher you claim to be, you would have figured it out by now.

    I have never met anyone as stupid as you are

    I would say that's true. The vast majority of people you have met are
    much much more stupid.

    and your claim not to be a QC manager is even a cold blooded lie.

    Is it? Why would I lie about being a QC manager when a QC manager in an organization like mine is actually a higher level position?

    You were fired from HP for being incompetent and you got only someone that needed an idiot.

    Forgive me for not taking employment advice from someone who couldn't
    keep a job for more than a year.

    Considering you spend ALL of your time on the newsgroups

    ALL of it? lol....

    I can only assume that they are a government supplier.

    As usual, you assume incorrectly. We do provide equipment to the USAF
    for aircraft refueling however. It's not the largest mart of our
    business by any stretch, but it is important nonetheless.

    No real company would not have fired you 10 minutes after then discovered your theft.

    Ahh....I see...Government suppliers aren't real companies now...got it....lol...




    He had posted in two different areas that he was an Argentinian and a Brazilian. He had NOT posted that he is a doctor of any sort and he had made several very incorrect statements about the mRNA GMO.

    So you are admitting that you build piping or rubber hoses?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 27 21:01:24 2024
    On Tue Dec 24 12:51:40 2024 zen cycle wrote:
    On 12/24/2024 12:43 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Dec 24 12:08:41 2024 zen cycle wrote:
    On 12/24/2024 11:28 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sun Dec 22 11:54:45 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 17:32:42 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Eisenhower chose Nixon as his running mate for the very simple reason that he was probably thge finest in6ternational scholar alive at that time. It was nesessary for the Demecrats to silence Nixon because not only did he make sense to most
    Americans but he promised the dawn of a brave new Republican world.

    Therefore the Democrats had to commit election fraud on a grander scale than they had been doing. Nixon commented on that in front of Colonel Oliver North and North decided he had to know what the Democrats' plans were. So he planned and invaded
    the Democrats inner sanctom. It was plan that Nixon had nothing to do with it because it was clumbsy and ineffective, far different from what Nixon would have done. But the Slime Stream Media dumped it into Nixon's lap and hounded him into resigning. To
    that point most of the media was at least polite. But the moment they smelled blood in the water, like the sharks they were, they were tearing Nixon to bits. I wish to remind you of Nixon's last speech. "Your President is not a crook." What's more he
    never needed to be one.

    Now here are 50 years after the event and even from that distance Krygowski still cannot think about what happened. Even with the Nixon Foundation'z vidios of Nixon speeches showing him to have been far too smart to even try something like
    Watergate.

    Krygowski insists on being stupid because Nixon was a first class Liberal whereas Frank is and remains a stupid socialist.

    This is closer to reality on why Eisenhower wanted Nixon as VP.
    <https://www2.gwu.edu/~erpapers/mep/displaydoc.cfm?docid=erpn-ricnix> >>>> I guess(tm) this is what you consider to be an "international
    scholar".
    "Nixon was kept outside of the president's inner circle, yet he
    developed considerable skill in foreign policy, which was demonstrated >>>> in his 1959 confrontation in Moscow with Soviet premier Nikita
    Khrushchev, known as the kitchen debate."

    You also screwed up your dates and events, but I don't have time to
    fix that for you.

    Eisenhower wanted Nixon as VP because Nixon was viewed a fervent
    anti-communist because he was a member of the HUAC (House Un-American >>>> Activities Committee) and because he worked on alien registration
    laws. At the time, the "Red Scare" was very much on everyone's mind. >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare#Second_Red_Scare_(1947%E2%80%931957)>




    As usual, Error 404 Page Not Found.

    As usual, it's just you. Both links work for me.

    But Liebermann who wasn't alive at that time is willing to tell us all about it. Just like saying that the Techtronix wire fault detector is the way to measure wire length when it operates exactly like my home made device. Or that he could tell you
    that I am wrong about mud conditions on Cull Canyon by looking at a picture from Google Earth of unknown date. Liebermann - your life is a failure because you can never learn from your mistakes.





    Sure they do.

    Yup. from <https://www2.gwu.edu/~erpapers/mep/displaydoc.cfm?docid=erpn-ricnix>

    "Copyright 2006. The Eleanor Roosevelt Papers. All rights reserved. "

    and from

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare#Second_Red_Scare_(1947%E2%80%931957)>

    "Second Red Scare (1947?1957)
    Main article: McCarthyism"

    You're the only one who can't open Jeffs links.




    There you go - Elinor Rossevelt who was the Wife of a vile racist pig, is an authority on Richard Nixon when Nixon and Truman agreed on most things.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 27 21:05:44 2024
    On Tue Dec 24 19:58:14 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:

    They work for me, too. And I suspect they work for everyone but Tom. :-/




    Anything that is opposite what I say is fine with you because I had the temerity to say that TEACHERS, even those who teach engineering are NOT engineers since by its very definition and engineer must actually engineer something. You couldn't even be a
    lousy engineer without getting fired!

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 27 21:44:03 2024
    On Tue Dec 24 20:08:09 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 12/24/2024 11:50 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sun Dec 22 11:50:20 2024 AMuzi wrote:

    Lt Col Oliver North was a commissioned as a lieutenant in
    1968, awarded a Bronze Star for action in Viet Nam in 1969,
    and was commanding officer at a base in Okinawa (1969~1974)
    during the Watergate caper in 1972.

    As I remember it...

    Those words should be a warning to Tom.




    The screaming coward frightened almost to paralysis by the very fact that people own guns is "WARNING" ME?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 27 21:49:05 2024
    On Fri Dec 27 16:11:09 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 12/27/2024 4:08 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Dec 24 19:56:56 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:

    As usual, Jeff's link opened immediately for me. Damn, Tom, your
    incompetence knows no bounds!

    I use Bit Defender which is the best antivirus in the world. You're not smart enough to protect yourself from the world around you. Don't tell me whose is incompetent since plainly you are.

    It's not the AV program that's the problem.

    PEBCAK




    Is this the same Zen that claimed he always posted under his original name of "Funkmeister" and wasn't interested that I called you Flunky because only a 12 year old would use a newsgroup name that childish?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 27 22:11:35 2024
    On Thu Dec 26 09:23:10 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 12/24/2024 11:57 AM, cyclintom wrote:

    yup, claims of being able to apply complex calculus algorithms while
    claiming 312/226 is 75/25

    and all you have is a lousy PE that isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Engineers engineer things. Fools believe that assigning things to a class from textbooks written by real engineers makes them engineers.




    Yup, making a blind estimate of 3 in 4 when it was 1 in 2.5. Oh wait, you would have to be able to understand arithetic to understand that. Guess it's your bad luck.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 27 23:13:35 2024
    On Tue Dec 24 07:23:20 2024 zen cycle wrote:
    On 12/23/2024 2:40 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon Dec 23 06:55:38 2024 zen cycle wrote:
    On 12/22/2024 12:46 PM, cyclintom wrote:

    It doesn't matter because yuu've told us that "what's the use of having money if you don't throw it away"?

    I did? Where did I write that? What's this penchant you have for lying
    about things other people have written?

    You think that everyone here didn't see you write words to that effect?

    I'm sure no one here saw me write anything even remotely similar to that.

    It sure must make you feel good to be a dipshit.

    I dunno, you tell me how it feels to be a dipshit.




    Until I met you, toop cowardly to publish under your own name, Krygowski who claims to be an engineer because he assigns homeowrk to student from books written by real engineers and Libermann who knew more going into college than he gor in college, I had
    little idea of what it was like to be a dipshit other than observing my NCOIC of the shop I was in. His assistant NCOIC was one of the better people in the world. He always knew what he was talking about and what he didn't know. If he didn't know he
    would ask questions and try to learn. And he was bright enough to understand.

    You tell us that because your company builds a SONET device you know abwsolutely what people out in the field call them. You are Bozo the Clown. Actually Bozo is ten time smarter than you. He is trying to be funny and you think that you're imparting
    wisdom.

    You no doubt know NOTHING at all about SONET since the multiplexer/demultiplexer is all contained in a single chip made by various manufacturers that are not pin compatible locking in their market.

    Go ahead and impress me with your knowledge of how SONET works and the many available speeds.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 28 00:54:15 2024
    On Tue Dec 24 13:00:40 2024 zen cycle wrote:
    On 12/24/2024 12:54 PM, cyclintom wrote:


    Where does being arrested for being just over the limit mean I'm a drunk

    According to california state law


    queerboy?

    jutelist 1. Repeatedly accusing people of being "queer". He's a closeted queer, afraid people will find out.




    California state law says that on ONE occasion I was driving while over the limit of blood alcohol. It makes no claims that I am a drunk.

    You lie because you have nothing else to argue.

    As for you being a queer. You have albsolutely ALL of the tells of being a queer. You NEVER mentioned having a wife even one time until you were accused of being queer. I don't doubt you at all since many queers have wives as a cover story. As well as
    children since that is part of the bargain with a woman.

    You are supremely arrogant about a job that has a fancy title for a very small job. The title is FAR more important to you than job which you prove here every single day by doing absolutely nothing for your employer and attempt to look important and
    knowledgable to a NEWSGROUP!

    You go absolutely nuts when shown for what you are - a tiny cog in a large machine.

    You RACE a bicycle despite being incapable of even finishing on the same lap as other people in your class. This gives you access to young men. This gives you some boys to go drinking with.

    You tell us about going out to beers with your male friends rather than fancy restaurants that you've taken your wife.

    I was asked to interview queers dying of AIDS in San Franciso hospitals and there were Alpha and Beta queers. The Alpha queers interviewed just like you down to the belief in your own infalibility.

    Many of the Beta queers were those victimized by people like you. Mostly lost and lonely children taken advantage of and so embarased by what they have become at the hands of people like you that they thought they had no way back. Once we made this clear
    to psychologists these people were often returned to normal but often with a form of PTSD that they could rarely shake.

    So go ahead and quote Andre who when he was posting here you hated with a bloodthirsty violence because he was a successful and published author who stated that I was correct.

    Using his words in an attempt to embarass me does me no harm at all and you're still very likely a MSM. (Man who has Sex with Men. which is a term that blacks prefer.)

    Believe me when I say that I have nothing but contempt for you and your like.

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