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    From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 18 20:23:59 2025
    After Robinson finished with the DeRosa he had taken off all of the stuff that I had put on there like SRAM chain and light disc and a Chinese cassette and replaced everything with Shimano. The difference in everything was pretty shocking. All of this
    stuff added exactly 1/2 lb but the shifting was flawless and the brakes are presently as good as good rim brakes and he says that when the new shoes wear in that they will improve though presently they are good enough for me.

    There was some wind today but nothing like yesterday when the bay was covered with breakers. So average speed was 11 mph. There is a lot of month left and I'm just short of a thousand miles. And I haven't been doing any long hard rides yet.

    I want to do the south side of Palomarers since that steep drop down the north side will be a good place to break in the new disc shoes.

    I couldn't get the shift cables with caps on to fit into the shifters so I assumed they were like Campy and the plugs were built into the levers. But no, Shimano has keyed ends and the stop the shift cable ends from fraying and the shifting fron
    degrading.

    Robinson also did a complete rebleed. This was easy since I had already gotten all of the air out. So he only had to bleed bottom to top. The fluid he got out was nearly black which surprises me since it was only used a couple of times.

    I will say this about the DeRosa's - the steering is perfect. There are a couple of places where I have to make 180 degree turns in one bike length and while most bikes you have to be careful, there's no worry at all with the DeRosa. The next set of
    tires will be 32 mm. The one thing I real,ly like z out the disc bike is the 12mm axles. This perfectly centers the wheels. And the Shamal wheels on the Time are fantastic too. when you spin the whhel against the freehub, they turn for as long as the
    front wheel does.

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to cyclintom on Sun May 18 16:12:54 2025
    On 5/18/2025 3:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    After Robinson finished with the DeRosa he had taken off all of the stuff that I had put on there like SRAM chain and light disc and a Chinese cassette and replaced everything with Shimano. The difference in everything was pretty shocking. All of this
    stuff added exactly 1/2 lb but the shifting was flawless and the brakes are presently as good as good rim brakes and he says that when the new shoes wear in that they will improve though presently they are good enough for me.

    There was some wind today but nothing like yesterday when the bay was covered with breakers. So average speed was 11 mph. There is a lot of month left and I'm just short of a thousand miles. And I haven't been doing any long hard rides yet.

    I want to do the south side of Palomarers since that steep drop down the north side will be a good place to break in the new disc shoes.

    I couldn't get the shift cables with caps on to fit into the shifters so I assumed they were like Campy and the plugs were built into the levers. But no, Shimano has keyed ends and the stop the shift cable ends from fraying and the shifting fron
    degrading.

    Robinson also did a complete rebleed. This was easy since I had already gotten all of the air out. So he only had to bleed bottom to top. The fluid he got out was nearly black which surprises me since it was only used a couple of times.

    I will say this about the DeRosa's - the steering is perfect. There are a couple of places where I have to make 180 degree turns in one bike length and while most bikes you have to be careful, there's no worry at all with the DeRosa. The next set of
    tires will be 32 mm. The one thing I real,ly like z out the disc bike is the 12mm axles. This perfectly centers the wheels. And the Shamal wheels on the Time are fantastic too. when you spin the whhel against the freehub, they turn for as long as the
    front wheel does.



    Apparently Mr Robinson has read Shimano's service directions
    and has purged the system with fresh fluid bottom to top.

    As I suggested to you here more than once.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Sun May 18 19:08:24 2025
    On 5/18/2025 6:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 20:23:59 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    After Robinson finished with the DeRosa...

    Robinson Wheel Works is closed on Sundays and Mondays. It's good to
    know that he values your business so highly, that he would open the
    shop so that you could pickup one of your 15(?) bicycles, at your
    convenience and when he is normally closed. You might have obtained
    an appointment. However, I doubt you would have done that without
    also complaining about the inconvenience in RBT.

    <https://www.robinsonbikeshop.com>
    Store Hours
    Sunday-Monday: by appointment
    Tuesday-Friday: 12 noon - 6:00 pm
    Saturday: 10 am - 4 pm

    <https://www.yelp.com/biz/robinson-wheel-works-san-leandro>
    Mon Closed
    Tue 12:00 PM - 6:00 PM
    Wed 12:00 PM - 6:00 PM
    Thu 12:00 PM - 6:00 PM
    Fri 12:00 PM - 6:00 PM
    Sat 10:00 AM - 4:00 PM
    Sun Closed Closed now



    More charitably, he could have picked it up Saturday and
    waited until after the Sunday ride to comment.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 18 16:49:47 2025
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 20:23:59 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    After Robinson finished with the DeRosa...

    Robinson Wheel Works is closed on Sundays and Mondays. It's good to
    know that he values your business so highly, that he would open the
    shop so that you could pickup one of your 15(?) bicycles, at your
    convenience and when he is normally closed. You might have obtained
    an appointment. However, I doubt you would have done that without
    also complaining about the inconvenience in RBT.

    <https://www.robinsonbikeshop.com>
    Store Hours
    Sunday-Monday: by appointment
    Tuesday-Friday: 12 noon - 6:00 pm
    Saturday: 10 am - 4 pm

    <https://www.yelp.com/biz/robinson-wheel-works-san-leandro>
    Mon Closed
    Tue 12:00 PM - 6:00 PM
    Wed 12:00 PM - 6:00 PM
    Thu 12:00 PM - 6:00 PM
    Fri 12:00 PM - 6:00 PM
    Sat 10:00 AM - 4:00 PM
    Sun Closed Closed now


    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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