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https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20250513-cycling-great-wiggins-admits-cocaine-addiction-after-retiring
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20250513-cycling-great-wiggins-admits-cocaine-addiction-after-retiring
He?s unfortunately being having a hard time, and has I believe been abused
as a child which doesn?t excuse but perhaps explains but he?s certainly in
a downward spiral.
On Tue May 13 17:01:33 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20250513-cycling-great-wiggins-admits-cocaine-addiction-after-retiring
He?s unfortunately being having a hard time, and has I believe been abused >> as a child which doesn?t excuse but perhaps explains but he?s certainly in >> a downward spiral.
Roger, addiction is entirely voluntary. Cocain is one of the easier addictive drugs to bnreak free of. So if he keeps his addiction it is on him.
On 5/13/2025 7:47 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue May 13 17:01:33 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20250513-cycling-great-wiggins-admits-cocaine-addiction-after-retiring
He?s unfortunately being having a hard time, and has I believe been abused >>> as a child which doesn?t excuse but perhaps explains but he?s certainly in >>> a downward spiral.
Roger, addiction is entirely voluntary. Cocain is one of the easier addictive drugs to bnreak free of. So if he keeps his addiction it is on him.
<gawd>
On Wed, 14 May 2025 04:40:10 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 5/13/2025 7:47 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue May 13 17:01:33 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20250513-cycling-great-wiggins-admits-cocaine-addiction-after-retiring
He?s unfortunately being having a hard time, and has I believe been abused >>>> as a child which doesn?t excuse but perhaps explains but he?s certainly in >>>> a downward spiral.
Roger, addiction is entirely voluntary. Cocain is one of the easier addictive drugs to bnreak free of. So if he keeps his addiction it is on him.
<gawd>
Actually, Tom is generally correct, as long as the circumstances
follow those in the study. For Bradley Wiggins, I didn't see any of
the racial, ethnic, or social problems mentioned that might cause
problems. If there were any, there's no way I could determine if they
were "voluntary".
"Probability and predictors of remission from lifetime nicotine,
alcohol, cannabis, or cocaine dependence" (Nov 2010) <https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3227547/>
TL:DR Summary: <https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1360-0443.2010.03194.x>
"Life-time cumulative probability estimates of dependence remission
were 83.7% for nicotine, 90.6% for alcohol, 97.2% for cannabis and
99.2% for cocaine. Half of the cases of nicotine, alcohol, cannabis
and cocaine dependence remitted approximately 26, 14, 6 and 5 years
after dependence onset, respectively."
On Wed, 14 May 2025 04:40:10 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 5/13/2025 7:47 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue May 13 17:01:33 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20250513-cycling-great-wiggins-admits-cocaine-addiction-after-retiring
He?s unfortunately being having a hard time, and has I believe been abused >>>> as a child which doesn?t excuse but perhaps explains but he?s certainly in >>>> a downward spiral.
Roger, addiction is entirely voluntary. Cocain is one of the easier addictive drugs to bnreak free of. So if he keeps his addiction it is on him.
<gawd>
Actually, Tom is generally correct, as long as the circumstances
follow those in the study. For Bradley Wiggins, I didn't see any of
the racial, ethnic, or social problems mentioned that might cause
problems. If there were any, there's no way I could determine if they
were "voluntary".
"Probability and predictors of remission from lifetime nicotine,
alcohol, cannabis, or cocaine dependence" (Nov 2010) <https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3227547/>
TL:DR Summary: <https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1360-0443.2010.03194.x>
"Life-time cumulative probability estimates of dependence remission
were 83.7% for nicotine, 90.6% for alcohol, 97.2% for cannabis and
99.2% for cocaine. Half of the cases of nicotine, alcohol, cannabis
and cocaine dependence remitted approximately 26, 14, 6 and 5 years
after dependence onset, respectively."
On 5/14/2025 11:16 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 14 May 2025 04:40:10 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 5/13/2025 7:47 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue May 13 17:01:33 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20250513-cycling-great-wiggins-admits-cocaine-addiction-after-retiring
He?s unfortunately being having a hard time, and has I believe been abused
as a child which doesn?t excuse but perhaps explains but he?s certainly in
a downward spiral.
Roger, addiction is entirely voluntary. Cocain is one of the easier
addictive drugs to bnreak free of. So if he keeps his addiction it is on him.
<gawd>
Actually, Tom is generally correct, as long as the circumstances
follow those in the study. For Bradley Wiggins, I didn't see any of
the racial, ethnic, or social problems mentioned that might cause
problems. If there were any, there's no way I could determine if they
were "voluntary".
"Probability and predictors of remission from lifetime nicotine,
alcohol, cannabis, or cocaine dependence" (Nov 2010)
<https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3227547/>
TL:DR Summary:
<https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1360-0443.2010.03194.x>
"Life-time cumulative probability estimates of dependence remission
were 83.7% for nicotine, 90.6% for alcohol, 97.2% for cannabis and
99.2% for cocaine. Half of the cases of nicotine, alcohol, cannabis
and cocaine dependence remitted approximately 26, 14, 6 and 5 years
after dependence onset, respectively."
I have an addictive personality. Lucky it does not come out in drugs or alcohol and I do like good beer. Never done any drugs. However my
addictive personality can come out in my running and cycling. Also,
there is a relationship with some people of religious believers and practitioners that corresponds to addition.
No you just generally cannot stop and bingo. In my years working at the welfare office, in my own childhood, and it my work as a deacon, the
only real stopper is the 12 step program. Yes, there are rare case of
those who walk away and never start again or even get help. They are
very rare but it happens.
Number one addiction now is internet pornography and it eats at person.
My understanding the the hardest addition to break and even years later
have urges is nicotine. A true alcoholic cannot ever drink once they
stop. They cannot go back to drinking socially or responsibly. I suppose
they could be exceptions but they would be exceeding rare.
My good friend a priest is an alcoholic. He has been sober since 1991
and never relapsed. Told me if he envied me that I could sit down and
drink one beer and stop. He said if he started he would end up dead. In
his case he still is a priest and consecrates the wine into the blood of Christ at every Mass. He will take the smallest of sips of the Blood of Christ as the elements remain but not substance.
If there is any left in the chalice after distribution he will ask
someone else to finish the consumption, he has done this many times when
I deacon the Mass for him.