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    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 7 15:23:03 2024
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    On 11/7/24 15:19, a425couple wrote:
    from
    https://nypost.com/2024/11/05/opinion/riders-testimony-puts-the-lie-to- das-cynical-race-baiting-in-daniel-penny-trial/

    Rider’s testimony puts the lie to DA’s cynical race-baiting in Daniel Penny trial
    By Post Editorial Board
    Published Nov. 5, 2024, 7:13 p.m. ET

    Former U.S. Marine Daniel Penny returns to the Manhattan Criminal
    Courtroom after a break for jury selection in his trial for the death of Jordan Neely.
    REUTERS
    Daniel Penny has been smeared as a vigilante and a racist, but the truth
    is slowly being revealed at his trial: The Marine vet tried to do the
    right thing and protect others in an impossible situation — and got arrested and charged with manslaughter for it.

    On May 1, 2023, mentally ill homeless man Jordan Neely charged onto an F Train and began ranting at his captive fellow passengers.

    Witnesses have said that Neely claimed he “didn’t care about going back to jail” and ominously warned that “someone is going to die today” before Penny put him into a hold to subdue him, which led to Neely’s
    death after police arrived.

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    Donald Adams
    1 day ago

    The most vulnerable of possible victims was on board that train: a
    mother with her baby.

    The defense needs to stress that in their closing arguments, especially
    if that mother is a witness giving testimony.

    The more I read up on this, the more I realize that Neely was not the
    victim. All the people on that train terrorized by Neely were victims, including Penny.

    I hope the defense wins this for Penny.


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    joseph higgins
    1 day ago

    Donald Adams The defense attorneys, Thomas Kinnif, et. al., need to get introduced into evidence that Neely was on K2 and all the consequences
    of someone being on K2, and that Neely still had a pulse when EMT
    arrived. If that evidence is introduced, then the jurors will have a
    concrete platform to show that reasonable doubt exists for all counts.

    "...A mother with her baby..." being on the train just plays to emotions
    and is vulnerable to subjectivity. That should not be the core part of
    the defense. A juror will not be able to convince the other jurors that
    the defendant, Penny, is not guilty with such a paltry defensive argument.


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    joseph higgins
    1 day ago

    Donald Adams The other riders were not victims, per se. Penny's actions
    are covered under PENAL LAW 35.15. Other posters are focusing that Neely
    did not have a gun, a knife, or assaulted him or anyone else - those are
    not prerequisites for Penny being justified to take action.

    Whether or or not a mother, child, baby were threatened is irrelevant.


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    AmyLee
    1 day ago

    His family is also to blame, they let him down by giving up on him and
    only was he a beloved family member when they realized the payout they
    could get. It’s sick and a reason progressive policies have hurt the
    same people they claim to help. But I hope the family looks at
    themselves in the mirror and realizes that the city failed them but that
    they also played a role in his death by not getting him the support he
    needed.

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    Mary Poppins
    1 day ago

    Only after he’s dead the family wants something done

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