On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 15:35:07 -0000 (UTC), DV <dv@reply-to.not.invalid> wrote: >[Supersedes: <v4pksm$buq$1@rasp.pasdenom.info>]

Hello,
MacCafe has been updated to version 3.02.1.
This version fixes a serious bug in v.3.02 which could make the Edit
menu unusable in certain circumstances. It also includes another bug fix
and some improvements. See the updated documentation for the full list
of changes (you may need to refresh the web page): ><http://yakakwatik.org/mc/documentation/en/tarrazu/>
To download the new version, please follow the link in my signature. To >install this version, simply replace the old MacCafe.app with the new
one.
Thank you for reading!

haven't used a mac since the 1990s, but 40Tude Dialog is still the
best freeware newsreader (v2.0.15.1, 4d2b38.exe, 3.8 MB, 2005-2-7),
notably listed first in this extensive list of popular newsreaders:

(using Tor Browser 13.0.16)
http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org/newsreaders.html

1.Introduction
2.Newsreaders
40Tude Dialog (Windows)
Betterbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Claws-Mail (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Evolution (Linux)
flnews (Linux, UNIX systems)
Gnus (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Gravity (Windows)
MacCafe (macOS)
MacSOUP (macOS = 10.14)
MesNews (Windows)
ModNewsreader (Android and its forks)
Pan (Linux)
SeaMonkey (Linux / Windows / macOS)
slrn (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Sylpheed (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Thunderbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
tin (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Xnews (Windows)
3.References and useful links

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http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org/newsreaders.html#dialog

40Tude Dialog
Plateform: Windows
License: freeware
Interface: graphical, single window
Development: definitively stopped in 2015
SMTP management: yes
Although development of 40Tude Dialog has been stopped for a long time, it >remains perfectly usable on recent versions of Windows. Its official site no >longer exists, but its very latest version has been carefully archived on the >French site Gratilog.net:
40tude Dialog 2.0 Beta 38 (Built 2.0.15.1) (Fr) >http://www.gratilog.net/xoops/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?cid=105&lid=284
First download version 2.0.15.1 and install it.
Then download version 2.0.15.84 (link under the description). The ZIP obtained
contains only the updated EXE file, which must be pasted into the installation
folder, replacing the old one.
Also note the existence of this archive: >https://web.archive.org/web/20171225155526/http://dialog.datalist.org/index.html
40Tude Dialog Newsreader
There you will find (functional) download links, a FAQ and above all a copious >list of scripts allowing you to add features to 40Tude Dialog.
Attention
Some of these scripts may not work, and some need an additional library, available at the bottom of the Downloads page.

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(still using 2.0.15.1, works great! upgrades to 2.0.15.84 proved problematic)

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D wrote:

haven't used a mac since the 1990s, but 40Tude Dialog is still the
best freeware newsreader (v2.0.15.1, 4d2b38.exe, 3.8 MB, 2005-2-7),
notably listed first in this extensive list of popular newsreaders:

(using Tor Browser 13.0.16)
http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org/newsreaders.html

Thanks for reminding me of a web page I wrote. ;-)

Yes, 40Tude Dialog is a highly recommendable newsreader. But it runs on Windows, while MacCafé is specifically designed for macOS.

--
Denis
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
MacCafé - Newsreader for macOS
<https://maccafe.fr/en>

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On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 22:36:32 -0000 (UTC), DV <dv@reply-to.not.invalid> wrote: >D wrote:

haven't used a mac since the 1990s, but 40Tude Dialog is still the
best freeware newsreader (v2.0.15.1, 4d2b38.exe, 3.8 MB, 2005-2-7),
notably listed first in this extensive list of popular newsreaders:
(using Tor Browser 13.0.16)
http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org/newsreaders.html

Thanks for reminding me of a web page I wrote. ;-)
Yes, 40Tude Dialog is a highly recommendable newsreader. But it runs on >Windows, while MacCafe is specifically designed for macOS.

yes, and for mac users, that's fine; whereas for windows users, it seems
that the current most popular newsreader, thunderbird (betterbird, etc.)
is problematic in ways that the far older classic 40tude dialog does not
have any problems with . . . other newsgroups have discussed issues with thunderbird at length, e.g. difficulties with scoring, dns prefetch, etc. dialog is far easier to install, use and maintain compared to any others

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Alan B wrote:

It should also be noted that Pan can be installed on macOS using either https://brew.sh or https://www.macports.org.

I searched for Pan on Homebrew a while ago, but couldn't find it. Either
I searched badly, or its addition is recent:

<https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/pan>

I will mention it on my page. Thanks for the information!

I'm not familiar with MacPorts, I should try it when I have time.

There used to be a Windows build but I can't find it now.

I found this:

<https://sites.google.com/site/paninstall/>

I tested Pan on Windows a few years ago and found it very unstable. That
said, Pan also doesn't work very well on my laptop running Ubuntu. I
think this newsreader doesn't like me. ;-)

--
Denis
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
MacCafé - Newsreader for macOS
<https://maccafe.fr/en>

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DV wrote:

D wrote:

haven't used a mac since the 1990s, but 40Tude Dialog is still the
best freeware newsreader (v2.0.15.1, 4d2b38.exe, 3.8 MB, 2005-2-7),
notably listed first in this extensive list of popular newsreaders:

(using Tor Browser 13.0.16)
http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org/newsreaders.html

Thanks for reminding me of a web page I wrote. ;-)

Yes, 40Tude Dialog is a highly recommendable newsreader. But it runs on Windows, while MacCafé is specifically designed for macOS.

It should also be noted that Pan can be installed on macOS using either https://brew.sh or https://www.macports.org. There used to be a Windows
build but I can't find it now.

--
Cheers, Alan

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On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 08:14:30 -0000 (UTC), DV <dv@reply-to.not.invalid>
wrote:

It should also be noted that Pan can be installed on macOS using either
https://brew.sh or https://www.macports.org.

I searched for Pan on Homebrew a while ago, but couldn't find it. Either
I searched badly, or its addition is recent:

The most stable news reader I have used for thirty years is the now
defunct Forte Agent. I have used it on Windows, Linux w/ WINE and
Crossover on Mac_OS.

YMMV. IMHO.

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On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 08:15:53 -0700, Michael Thompson <Michael.Thompson@nowwhere.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 08:14:30 -0000 (UTC), DV <dv@reply-to.not.invalid> wrote: >>I searched for Pan on Homebrew a while ago, but couldn't find it. Either

I searched badly, or its addition is recent:

The most stable news reader I have used for thirty years is the now
defunct Forte Agent. I have used it on Windows, Linux w/ WINE and
Crossover on Mac_OS.

for reading newsgroups, the freeware 40tude dialog is unbeatable; but
for posting, i'm still using this old free agent (version 1.93/32.576
because of its simplicity, portability, familiarity, useability, etc.)

https://web.archive.org/web/20060807005839/ftp://ftp3.forteinc.com/pub/agent/english/a32en193.exe
https://web.archive.org/web/20150921203344/http://gnupg.cdpa.nsysu.edu.tw/cpatch/news/agent/source/a32en193.exe

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DV <dv@reply-to.not.invalid> wrote at 08:14 this Tuesday (GMT):

Alan B wrote:

It should also be noted that Pan can be installed on macOS using either
https://brew.sh or https://www.macports.org.

I searched for Pan on Homebrew a while ago, but couldn't find it. Either
I searched badly, or its addition is recent:

<https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/pan>

I will mention it on my page. Thanks for the information!

Your page?

I'm not familiar with MacPorts, I should try it when I have time.

There used to be a Windows build but I can't find it now.

I found this:

<https://sites.google.com/site/paninstall/>

I tested Pan on Windows a few years ago and found it very unstable. That said, Pan also doesn't work very well on my laptop running Ubuntu. I
think this newsreader doesn't like me. ;-)

It's not pan-ning out?
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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candycanearter07 a écrit ceci :

I will mention it on my page. Thanks for the information!

Your page?

The page D was talking about:

<http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org/newsreaders.html>

--
Denis

USENET FRANCOPHONE (serveurs, passerelles, groupes, lecteurs de news, docs) : <http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org>

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