• Difference in scoring between slrnpull and slrn with shared score file

    From Kacper Docin@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 14 06:10:22 2025
    I’ve got a shared score file for both slrnpull and slrn. I expect
    that nothing below 0 points should be downloaded, and I run slrnpull
    with the --kill-score 0 flag.

    However, some messages still seem to "slip through" this filter,
    and only get scored when I open them in slrn. For example, I might
    see that there are 5 unread messages in a group, but after entering
    the group (pressing enter), the counter resets. I’m assuming that
    slrn is loading the score rules at that point.

    My conclusion is that slrnpull has some kind of simplified scoring
    mechanism, but I’d like to know exactly what the difference is between
    the two in terms of scoring.

    Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

    My slrn and slrnpull versions are both 1.0.3.

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  • From Keith@21:1/5 to Kacper Docin on Fri May 16 18:00:06 2025
    On 2025-05-14, Kacper Docin <altvalidator@pm.me> wrote:
    I’ve got a shared score file for both slrnpull and slrn. I expect
    that nothing below 0 points should be downloaded, and I run slrnpull
    with the --kill-score 0 flag.

    However, some messages still seem to "slip through" this filter,
    and only get scored when I open them in slrn. For example, I might
    see that there are 5 unread messages in a group, but after entering
    the group (pressing enter), the counter resets. I’m assuming that
    slrn is loading the score rules at that point.

    My conclusion is that slrnpull has some kind of simplified scoring
    mechanism, but I’d like to know exactly what the difference is between
    the two in terms of scoring.

    Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

    My slrn and slrnpull versions are both 1.0.3.



    You can enter a newsgroup using the ESC-1-K
    key command in SLRN to see what messages are
    not being caught by the slrnpull program.

    It can be a error in the syntax for the filter.

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  • From issdr@21:1/5 to Keith on Sat May 17 00:11:37 2025
    Keith wrote:

    On 2025-05-14, Kacper Docin <altvalidator@pm.me> wrote:

    [...]

    My conclusion is that slrnpull has some kind of simplified scoring
    mechanism, but I’d like to know exactly what the difference is between
    the two in terms of scoring.

    Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

    My slrn and slrnpull versions are both 1.0.3.

    You can enter a newsgroup using the ESC-1-K
    key command in SLRN to see what messages are
    not being caught by the slrnpull program.

    It can be a error in the syntax for the filter.

    long time since i used slrnpull the last time, but that shouldn't be the
    case. i had a symlink to slrn's score file as slrnpull's, not to write
    rules twice.

    there might be a bug or a non-alignment on the two programs (if i have
    to guess, i'd say encoding(?))

    or

    score file acts on headers not offered by the remote newsserver on
    XOVER, thus slrnpull isn't able to filter, while slrn locally does

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