On 03.12.24 13:41, badgolferman wrote:

A new lawsuit filed by a current Apple employee accuses the company of
spying on its workers via their personal iCloud accounts and non-work devices.

The suit, filed Sunday evening in California state court,

https://www.semafor.com/article/12/02/2024/employee-lawsuit-accuses-apple-of-spying-on-its-workers

Nobody needs copies of articles published elsewhere in the internet
without any value adding comments or further insights.
If we need them we will find them.

You are an old, grumpy and bored man.

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On 03.12.24 15:55, badgolferman wrote:

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 03.12.24 13:41, badgolferman wrote:

A new lawsuit filed by a current Apple employee accuses the
company of spying on its workers via their personal iCloud
accounts and non-work devices.

The suit, filed Sunday evening in California state court,


https://www.semafor.com/article/12/02/2024/employee-lawsuit-accuses-apple-of-spying-on-its-workers

Nobody needs copies of articles published elsewhere in the internet
without any value adding comments or further insights.
If we need them we will find them.

You are an old, grumpy and bored man.

I provided information without any bias or comment. Would you care to provide any opinion on the topic rather than kill the messenger?

I do not believe one single word of this frustrated ex-Apple-worker.
A judge will decide.

And you created the bias by just choosing this article. And as I said:
We all will find the https://www.semafor.com without your "help" if we
think we need to.

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On 2024-12-03 17:52:19 +0000, badgolferman said:

Chris wrote:

What's your opinion? Given you thought it was worthwhile to share.

I carry two iPhones precisely for this reason. One is a company phone
and the other a personal phone. Once we were informed company phones
would be monitored and certain apps would be restricted from being
installed, I knew it was time to get my own phone. My company phone
has nothing on it except for iOS and Microsoft Office suite. I also
have two Apple IDs, a personal and a work one.

If the Apple employees don't want their personal lives monitored they
can carry two phones too. The part of the article which concerns me is
this and I don't quite understand the reasoning behind it:
"To evade Apple’s surveillance, employees could use a work-owned device
and use a separate iCloud account only for work, but the suit says the company “actively discourages” work-only iCloud accounts."

Yep. Only a complete moron would put their personal stuff on a work
device. At the very least, if you quit or are fired from the job, or
the company simply wants to updgrade devices, you have to give the
device back.

Similarly, why would anyone use a personal account for work stuff?

Of course, this is simply the usual nonsense by the woo-woo conspiracy
nutters who think *everyone* is spying on them. (Unfrotauntely, far too
many Americans do seem to belong to the conspiracy nutter "religion".
:-\

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On 03.12.24 21:47, Chris wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Chris wrote:

What's your opinion? Given you thought it was worthwhile to share.

I carry two iPhones precisely for this reason. One is a company phone
and the other a personal phone. Once we were informed company phones
would be monitored and certain apps would be restricted from being
installed, I knew it was time to get my own phone.

If it's genuinely a company phone - i.e. bought and provided by them - then they're entitled to restrict use as they see fit.

+1; no doubt about that

My company phone
has nothing on it except for iOS and Microsoft Office suite. I also
have two Apple IDs, a personal and a work one.

If the Apple employees don't want their personal lives monitored they
can carry two phones too. The part of the article which concerns me is
this and I don't quite understand the reasoning behind it:
"To evade Apple’s surveillance, employees could use a work-owned device
and use a separate iCloud account only for work, but the suit says the
company “actively discourages” work-only iCloud accounts."

I mean it's a suit. Anyone can allege what they want in a suit even things that don't make sense. I wouldn't put any weight on it.

Couldn't agree more. A judge and a jury will decide.
This article is completely one sided and not a serious base for a
discussion in this group.


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On 2024-12-03, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Chris wrote:

What's your opinion? Given you thought it was worthwhile to share.

I carry two iPhones precisely for this reason. One is a company phone
and the other a personal phone. Once we were informed company phones
would be monitored and certain apps would be restricted from being
installed, I knew it was time to get my own phone. My company phone
has nothing on it except for iOS and Microsoft Office suite. I also
have two Apple IDs, a personal and a work one.

If the Apple employees don't want their personal lives monitored they
can carry two phones too. The part of the article which concerns me
is this and I don't quite understand the reasoning behind it: "To
evade Apple’s surveillance, employees could use a work-owned device
and use a separate iCloud account only for work, but the suit says the company “actively discourages” work-only iCloud accounts."

That last sentence is pure bullshit. 🤣 I have friends who are long-time Apple employees. Every one of them I have asked about this tells me
Apple definitely does not "actively discourage" work Apple accounts. And
each of them does indeed use separate iCloud accounts for work and home.

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