• Re: iFixit iPhone 16 Pro teardown

    From Andrew@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Tue Oct 1 00:08:31 2024
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    Jolly Roger wrote on 30 Sep 2024 23:54:13 GMT :

    No amount of slick MARKETING can overcome iPhone lack of charge
    cycles.

    As usual, you're chock full of bullshit.

    Even though you acted like a child, Jolly Roger, I'm going to respond to
    you as if you own the brain of an actual adult... is that OK with you?

    We discussed this in gory detail, so I will just remind you Apple zealots
    that no iPhone older than the iPhone 15 will be allowed to be sold in the
    EU specifically because Apple cannot meet the EU's minimum battery life.

    Don't you wonder why Apple suddenly increased the number of charge cycles
    that the iPhone 15 could sustain before dropping below 80% Jolly Roger?

    Apple was given yeas of warning by the EU that it was time to end this
    charade of Apple providing customers with substandard el cheapo batteries.

    Even now, with the iPhone 16 barely meeting EU *minimum* battery life standards, there are many Android phones which *DOUBLE* the minimum life.

    Think about that when you falsely claim Apple products don't need to follow
    the laws of physics in that the only thing, you think, that matters, is
    daily life (where battery capacity, in your head, makes no difference).

    It does.

    The major determinant of battery life is the original charge capacity.
    A secondary determinant of battery life is the charge cycles to 80%.
    And only a minor third determinant is the daily battery life in hours.

    You Apple zealots can't fathom anything stated above because you *hate*
    that almost every iPhone in use today miserably fails EU minimum standards, while almost every Android (if not every Android) exceeds those standards.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Andrew on Tue Oct 1 15:32:30 2024
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    On 2024-10-01, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote on 30 Sep 2024 23:54:13 GMT :

    No amount of slick MARKETING can overcome iPhone lack of charge
    cycles.

    As usual, you're chock full of bullshit.

    Even though you acted like a child, Jolly Roger, I'm going to respond to
    you as if you own the brain of an actual adult... is that OK with you?

    Think about that when you falsely claim Apple products don't need to follow the laws of physics

    Actual adults know I said no such thing, little Arlen. Ironic that you
    like like a child while calling everyone else a child.

    the only thing, you think, that matters, is daily life

    The fact is runtime is what matters to most people, little Arlen. If
    their phone runs for 14+ hours on a charge there is no "problem". You're desperately trying to manufacture one, because: troll. But your little
    troll is weak - even your best bud badgolferman says so. You're such a
    loser that you literally spend all day every day in the Apple news
    groups slinging weak-ass trolls around, insulting everyone else,and
    beating your chest. You're just a pathetic old loser.

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Oct 1 23:13:37 2024
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    badgolferman wrote on Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:40:22 -0000 (UTC) :

    I have no frame of reference for Android phones and
    whether their lasting power is better.

    Hi badgolferman,

    I explain things differently to you, where all I want you to know is
    *every* iPhone prior to the iPhone 15 miserably fails EU's minimum life.

    Every single iPhone.

    That's just a fact.

    Actually, if we want to quibble, and since I'm well aware of the details,
    the fact is Apple can only prove that the iPhone 15 and up meet the spec.

    So the zealots, who are completely ignorant of the spec, as you know, will claim that Apple just didn't feel like publicizing they met the spec
    because, you know, battery life is "not needed" & "not wanted" after all.

    With respect to your "frame of reference for Android, not only do almost
    all Android phones meet the EU's minimum standard for battery life, but
    many more than *DOUBLE* the EU's minimum standard for battery life.

    To dig even deeper into the understanding of battery chemistry, it's not
    that Android phones are explicitly designed to last longer than iPhones.

    It's just that Android phones last longer than iPhones because they start
    with bigger batteries - and - as I explained many times prior - the bigger batter is the primary determinant of overall battery life.

    Using low-digit numbers in my example (for the iKooks to do the math in
    their heads), it doesn't matter if a phone can last for 100 hours if it
    drops to below 80 percent after 5 charge cycles.

    The point being that how long a phone last in a single use when new is not
    the determinant of how long a phone lasts after years of use, badgolferman.

    Remember batterygate?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andrew on Tue Oct 1 18:38:55 2024
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    On 2024-10-01 16:13, Andrew wrote:
    badgolferman wrote on Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:40:22 -0000 (UTC) :

     I have no frame of reference for Android phones and
    whether their lasting power is better.

    Hi badgolferman,

    I explain things differently to you, where all I want you to know is
    *every* iPhone prior to the iPhone 15 miserably fails EU's minimum life.

    Every single iPhone.

    That's just a fact.

    Is it, though?

    Could you point us to those "minimum life" standards...

    ...and when they kick in?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Wed Oct 2 04:54:41 2024
    On 2024-10-01, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:

    But your little troll is weak - even your best bud badgolferman says
    so.

    You're doing exactly what you accuse others of doing all the time. I
    said no such thing

    BINGO - I laid the trap and you predictably fell right into it. You're
    right: Arlen does this *constantly*, And it only bothers you now that
    someone *other* than Arlen is doing it right back at him. *Very*
    telling. You're not fooling anyone. Your bias is laid out for all to
    see. You *love* Arlen's juvenile disruptive behavior here, and you
    *always* side with him. Good job perfectly illustrating this fact.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Wed Oct 2 07:52:31 2024
    On 2024-10-02 01:19, badgolferman wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2024-10-01, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:

    But your little troll is weak - even your best bud badgolferman says
    so.

    You're doing exactly what you accuse others of doing all the time. I
    said no such thing

    BINGO - I laid the trap and you predictably fell right into it. You're
    right: Arlen does this *constantly*, And it only bothers you now that
    someone *other* than Arlen is doing it right back at him. *Very*
    telling. You're not fooling anyone. Your bias is laid out for all to
    see. You *love* Arlen's juvenile disruptive behavior here, and you
    *always* side with him. Good job perfectly illustrating this fact.


    Your rationalizations for being a lying, deceitful person are quite weak.
    But at least now you’ve admitted to being one publicly. That’s a step in the right direction.


    Face it:

    He pegged you exactly right.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Wed Oct 2 16:13:32 2024
    On 2024-10-02, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2024-10-01, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:

    But your little troll is weak - even your best bud badgolferman
    says so.

    You're doing exactly what you accuse others of doing all the time.
    I said no such thing

    BINGO - I laid the trap and you predictably fell right into it.
    You're right: Arlen does this *constantly*, And it only bothers you
    now that someone *other* than Arlen is doing it right back at him.
    *Very* telling. You're not fooling anyone. Your bias is laid out for
    all to see. You *love* Arlen's juvenile disruptive behavior here, and
    you *always* side with him. Good job perfectly illustrating this
    fact.

    Your rationalizations for being a lying, deceitful person

    🤣 You fell for the bait, hook, line, and sinker. You support and allow
    Arlen lying about what others say here *daily* and even do in it
    yourself, because you enjoy such weak dishonesty. But the *minute*
    someone else uses the same dishonest tactic as bait, you strenuously
    object. It's fine with you when Arlen lies about what other people say,
    but not when anyone else does. Your bias couldn't be more obvious.

    But at least now you’ve admitted to being one publicly. That’s a step
    in the right direction.

    You're a true hypocrite. You and your best buddy Arlen are deceitful
    liars who claim other people say things they didn't day all of the time.
    But the moment someone uses that same tactic of lying about something
    someone else said, you get upset and cry about it. You're not fooling
    anyone here.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Oct 2 16:17:59 2024
    On 2024-10-02, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-10-02 01:19, badgolferman wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2024-10-01, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:

    But your little troll is weak - even your best bud badgolferman
    says so.

    You're doing exactly what you accuse others of doing all the time.
    I said no such thing

    BINGO - I laid the trap and you predictably fell right into it.
    You're right: Arlen does this *constantly*, And it only bothers you
    now that someone *other* than Arlen is doing it right back at him.
    *Very* telling. You're not fooling anyone. Your bias is laid out for
    all to see. You *love* Arlen's juvenile disruptive behavior here,
    and you *always* side with him. Good job perfectly illustrating this
    fact.


    Your rationalizations for being a lying, deceitful person are quite
    weak. But at least now you’ve admitted to being one publicly. That’s
    a step in the right direction.

    Face it:

    He pegged you exactly right.

    Don't believe your lying eyes, Alan. badgolferman is just an innocent
    bystander standing up for what is right! Nevermind all of the lies and
    bullshit Arlen spews daily here - no, the people who have the balls to
    stand up to Arlen's trolls are the "real problem". They should just be
    quiet and let Arlen and badgolferman spew lies, otherwise they are the
    "true trolls"... 😉

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