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Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
What "forms" of 2FA is Apple requiring for all new Apple IDs?
The fact is of all common consumer operating systems, as of February 2023, >> only Apple *requires* you to completely lose your privacy by forcing you to >> use 2FA (which, for most people, is accomplished by their personal phone). >>
Obviously I'm aghast that only Apple completely ignores any request for
privacy, but I can't fight it and still log into my Apple ID on my iPads.
While I gave Apple my personal very private cell phone number, because I
was forced to do it in order to create the new Apple ID, my question here
is how can we avoid giving Apple our privacy for the rest of our lives?
What other forms of 2FA can we give Apple to log into new Apple accounts?
I’m not entirely sure, but it seems you can get a different trusted device.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102660
If you don’t want to give out your personal phone number maybe a Google Voice number would work. Use a Google solution to authenticate with Apple!
Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
What "forms" of 2FA is Apple requiring for all new Apple IDs?
The fact is of all common consumer operating systems, as of February 2023, >> only Apple *requires* you to completely lose your privacy by forcing you to >> use 2FA (which, for most people, is accomplished by their personal phone). >>
Obviously I'm aghast that only Apple completely ignores any request for
privacy, but I can't fight it and still log into my Apple ID on my iPads.
While I gave Apple my personal very private cell phone number, because I
was forced to do it in order to create the new Apple ID, my question here
is how can we avoid giving Apple our privacy for the rest of our lives?
What other forms of 2FA can we give Apple to log into new Apple accounts?
I’m not entirely sure, but it seems you can get a different trusted device.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102660
If you don’t want to give out your personal phone number maybe a Google Voice number would work. Use a Google solution to authenticate with Apple!
What "forms" of 2FA is Apple requiring for all new Apple IDs?
The fact is of all common consumer operating systems, as of February 2023, >>> only Apple *requires* you to completely lose your privacy by forcing you to >>> use 2FA (which, for most people, is accomplished by their personal phone). >>>
Obviously I'm aghast that only Apple completely ignores any request for
privacy, but I can't fight it and still log into my Apple ID on my iPads. >>>
While I gave Apple my personal very private cell phone number, because I >>> was forced to do it in order to create the new Apple ID, my question here >>> is how can we avoid giving Apple our privacy for the rest of our lives?
What other forms of 2FA can we give Apple to log into new Apple accounts? >>>
I'm not entirely sure, but it seems you can get a different trusted device. >>
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102660
If you don't want to give out your personal phone number maybe a Google
Voice number would work. Use a Google solution to authenticate with Apple! >>
BTW, for your edification on Arlen's claim that this "only Apple":
'Can I turn 2-Step Verification off?
Currently, you can turn off 2-Step Verification after it's turned on automatically, but signing in with just a password makes your account
much less secure.
Soon, 2-Step Verification will be required for most Google Accounts.'
<https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/10956730?hl=en#zippy=%2Ccan-i-turn--step-verification-off>
On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 11:44:22 -0700, Alan wrote:
What "forms" of 2FA is Apple requiring for all new Apple IDs?
The fact is of all common consumer operating systems, as of February
2023,
only Apple *requires* you to completely lose your privacy by forcing
you to
use 2FA (which, for most people, is accomplished by their personal
phone).
Obviously I'm aghast that only Apple completely ignores any request for >>>> privacy, but I can't fight it and still log into my Apple ID on my
iPads.
While I gave Apple my personal very private cell phone number,
because I
was forced to do it in order to create the new Apple ID, my question
here
is how can we avoid giving Apple our privacy for the rest of our lives? >>>>
What other forms of 2FA can we give Apple to log into new Apple
accounts?
I'm not entirely sure, but it seems you can get a different trusted
device.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102660
If you don't want to give out your personal phone number maybe a Google
Voice number would work. Use a Google solution to authenticate with
Apple!
BTW, for your edification on Arlen's claim that this "only Apple":
'Can I turn 2-Step Verification off?
Currently, you can turn off 2-Step Verification after it's turned on
automatically, but signing in with just a password makes your account
much less secure.
Soon, 2-Step Verification will be required for most Google Accounts.'
<https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/10956730?hl=en#zippy=%2Ccan-i-turn--step-verification-off>
Read what the link says next time before you post that kind of garbage.
A Google Account is not needed to use Android or Windows or Linux.
Google controls its operating system just as Apple controls its OS.
And Google is not requiring MFV for use of their Android operating system.
On 2024-09-02 15:07, Isaac Montara wrote:
On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 11:44:22 -0700, Alan wrote:
What "forms" of 2FA is Apple requiring for all new Apple IDs?
The fact is of all common consumer operating systems, as of February >>>>> 2023,
only Apple *requires* you to completely lose your privacy by forcing >>>>> you to
use 2FA (which, for most people, is accomplished by their personal
phone).
Obviously I'm aghast that only Apple completely ignores any request for >>>>> privacy, but I can't fight it and still log into my Apple ID on my
iPads.
While I gave Apple my personal very private cell phone number,
because I
was forced to do it in order to create the new Apple ID, my question >>>>> here
is how can we avoid giving Apple our privacy for the rest of our lives? >>>>>
What other forms of 2FA can we give Apple to log into new Apple
accounts?
I'm not entirely sure, but it seems you can get a different trusted
device.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102660
If you don't want to give out your personal phone number maybe a Google >>>> Voice number would work. Use a Google solution to authenticate with
Apple!
BTW, for your edification on Arlen's claim that this "only Apple":
'Can I turn 2-Step Verification off?
Currently, you can turn off 2-Step Verification after it's turned on
automatically, but signing in with just a password makes your account
much less secure.
Soon, 2-Step Verification will be required for most Google Accounts.'
<https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/10956730?hl=en#zippy=%2Ccan-i-turn--step-verification-off>
Read what the link says next time before you post that kind of garbage.
A Google Account is not needed to use Android or Windows or Linux.
Google controls its operating system just as Apple controls its OS.
And Google is not requiring MFV for use of their Android operating system.
I'm sure that's a nicety that all the ordinary consumers who set up
Android phones are completely aware of...
On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 16:22:43 -0700, Alan wrote:
On 2024-09-02 15:07, Isaac Montara wrote:
On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 11:44:22 -0700, Alan wrote:
What "forms" of 2FA is Apple requiring for all new Apple IDs?
The fact is of all common consumer operating systems, as of
February 2023,
only Apple *requires* you to completely lose your privacy by
forcing you to
use 2FA (which, for most people, is accomplished by their personal >>>>>> phone).
Obviously I'm aghast that only Apple completely ignores any
request for
privacy, but I can't fight it and still log into my Apple ID on my >>>>>> iPads.
While I gave Apple my personal very private cell phone number,
because I
was forced to do it in order to create the new Apple ID, my
question here
is how can we avoid giving Apple our privacy for the rest of our
lives?
What other forms of 2FA can we give Apple to log into new Apple
accounts?
I'm not entirely sure, but it seems you can get a different trusted
device.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102660
If you don't want to give out your personal phone number maybe a
Voice number would work. Use a Google solution to authenticate with
Apple!
BTW, for your edification on Arlen's claim that this "only Apple":
'Can I turn 2-Step Verification off?
Currently, you can turn off 2-Step Verification after it's turned on
automatically, but signing in with just a password makes your
account much less secure.
Soon, 2-Step Verification will be required for most Google Accounts.'
<https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/10956730?hl=en#zippy=%2Ccan-i-turn--step-verification-off>
Read what the link says next time before you post that kind of garbage.
A Google Account is not needed to use Android or Windows or Linux.
Google controls its operating system just as Apple controls its OS.
And Google is not requiring MFV for use of their Android operating
system.
I'm sure that's a nicety that all the ordinary consumers who set up
Android phones are completely aware of...
What you posted was garbage which you didn't even read before posting it.
There's a SKIP button to skip the optional account setup on every operating system - whether it's Apple's or Google's or Microsoft's operating systems.
Google & Microsoft are not requiring MFV for those who want to use their OS
- so tapping that SKIP button still allows users to install apps on it.
Apple is requiring compulsory MFV for all new Apple ID accounts which means Apple is the only operating system maker who is requiring compulsory MFV.
The problem with Apple's compulsory MFV is, unlike the other operating systems, you can't do much with Apple's systems without creating an Apple account on the device (which Apple now requires compulsory MFV to do).
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
By the way, as a normal consumer, can you explain how you can set up a
Windows 11 PC without setting up a Microsoft account?
https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/install-windows-11-without-microsoft-account
Google controls its operating system just as Apple controls its OS.
And Google is not requiring MFV for use of their Android operating system.