• Re: Can ;a USB chargiing cable be connected but bad?

    From micky@21:1/5 to jollyroger@pobox.com on Sun Oct 13 17:54:29 2024
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on 12 Oct 2024 00:40:04 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    On 2024-10-11, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    I got a second call from someoen trying to reach the owner of the
    phone, and he was much more alert than the first caller. He knows her
    other phone number, called her and she called me. She has two phones,
    didn't even know she'd lost one, and couldn't figure out where she
    lost it. She went to that drugstore just to pick up an Amazon package,
    but used her other phone, thought that phone was left at home.

    Hard for me to fathom purchasing two expensive electronic devices,
    losing one, and not even being aware of it.

    I have a terrible memory for numbers, but I asked her which model it was
    just as she was leaving. Because the instructions on how to do things
    varied by the model. I think it was I-7 or 9 at most, so I guess that
    makes it her earlier phone , although of course both had sims.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to jollyroger@pobox.com on Sun Oct 13 17:49:35 2024
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on 11 Oct 2024 15:30:45 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    On 2024-10-11, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on Fri, 11 Oct 2024 07:04:17 -0000 (UTC),
    John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Into what did you plug it? If a computer or laptop, this is what you
    will see. But if you plug it into a USB charging socket (eg a
    charger as supplied with any phone), it should just charge.

    I should have thought of that, Hust yesterday I was in the ER and saw
    a woman charging her phone with a charger, from a strip that didn't
    have usb ports, and I said to myself, Remember to put an AC charger in
    the car. But I still didn't think of it.

    Can I use a 3.1 amp charger, the only one I don't have to hunt for, or
    should I hunt for a smaller one.

    Is it a USB charger?

    You can safely charge any device with a USB charge cable with any USB
    power adapter (assuming the cable and power adapter aren't cheap
    knockoff devices that donÆt actually meet USB specifications, and they
    aren't defective).

    The letter ôUö in ôUSBö stands for ôUniversalö. The USB specification is >designed so that the device and USB power adapter will automatically >negotiate the power level that is appropriate for the device being
    charged.

    Thanks. Got it charged up and she called me too on that phone, and
    picked it up.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Oct 13 18:52:09 2024
    On 2024-10-13 17:49, micky wrote:

    Thanks. Got it charged up and she called me too on that phone, and
    picked it up.

    Great news. What it's all about and Apple designed it that way.

    --
    "It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
    the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
    Winston Churchill

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com on Fri Oct 11 01:50:36 2024
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on Fri, 11 Oct 2024 01:45:55 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    If I turn it off now, can I turn it on
    tomorrow even though I can't unlock it?

    I saw how to turn it off, I think, but how would I turn it back on? Or
    should I leave it on all night because I might not wak up until 9 or 10
    or 11 and if he calls and it goes to voicemail, he may never call again.
    It's 2AM now.

    I would think the phone itself is broken except I found it on the
    pavement in a parking lot, with a hard rubber case, and it's not even
    cracked.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 11 01:45:55 2024
    I found a locked iphone and I'm trying to return it to the owner.

    Maybe he will call me, but the battery was at 30% and now it's at 22%.
    That's only 8% in 11 hours, but still, in 33 hours it will be dead as a doornail. And I don't want to turn the phone off because he, or someoen
    who knows him, might call. If I turn it off now, can I turn it on
    tomorrow even though I can't unlock it? When it was at 27%, I borrowed
    a cable to charge it

    1) Most important: When plugged in, it says roughly, "Accessory
    connected. Unlock phone to use accessory", but it didn't show that it
    was charging. The icon in the upper right continues to show a percent
    but no lighting bolt and no greenness. What's going on? All I can
    imagine is that the cable is no good, but my neighbor says he keeps it
    in the basement to use there. He's not stupid.

    A friend tells me there are 3 kinds of cable plug, USB-C, Flying Harpie,
    and a third one, but I thought there were only 2 kinds. This is NOT
    USB-C. Is there a 3rd kind?

    2) Unlikely? The USB port is normally used for an external
    microphone/speaker, I only use the mike to speak search terms to
    google, but it works for that. I've tried two adjacent ports. do I
    have to try the other 2 front ports?


    3) Somewhat less important: How do I tell if it's an iphone 5, 6, 87, whatever? Knowing that would enable to understand webpages. For
    example, one or two say I can find the owner by pressign the home button
    or the side button and saying Siri, who's the owner. But other pages
    say the home button doesn't exist on all phones. BTW< I tried the side
    key and it didnt' work, and it says that people are advised to turn Siri
    off when the phone is locked, and that's probably what he did. Still
    there are many other reasons to know what model the phone is.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to micky on Fri Oct 11 19:44:45 2024
    On 2024-10-11 05:50:36 +0000, micky said:
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on Fri, 11 Oct 2024 01:45:55 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    If I turn it off now, can I turn it on tomorrow even though I can't unlock it?

    I saw how to turn it off, I think, but how would I turn it back on? Or should I leave it on all night because I might not wak up until 9 or 10
    or 11 and if he calls and it goes to voicemail, he may never call again.
    It's 2AM now.

    I would think the phone itself is broken except I found it on the
    pavement in a parking lot, with a hard rubber case, and it's not even cracked.

    When you find something, you're meant to take it to the appropriate
    place - the shop / business that owns the carpark, the nearest police
    station, etc. You're not meant to take it home with you.

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  • From John Hill@21:1/5 to micky on Fri Oct 11 07:04:17 2024
    On 11 Oct 2024 at 06:45:55 BST, "micky" <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    I found a locked iphone and I'm trying to return it to the owner.

    Maybe he will call me, but the battery was at 30% and now it's at 22%.
    That's only 8% in 11 hours, but still, in 33 hours it will be dead as a doornail. And I don't want to turn the phone off because he, or someoen
    who knows him, might call. If I turn it off now, can I turn it on
    tomorrow even though I can't unlock it? When it was at 27%, I borrowed
    a cable to charge it

    1) Most important: When plugged in, it says roughly, "Accessory
    connected. Unlock phone to use accessory", but it didn't show that it
    was charging. The icon in the upper right continues to show a percent
    but no lighting bolt and no greenness. What's going on? All I can imagine is that the cable is no good, but my neighbor says he keeps it
    in the basement to use there. He's not stupid.

    A friend tells me there are 3 kinds of cable plug, USB-C, Flying Harpie,
    and a third one, but I thought there were only 2 kinds. This is NOT
    USB-C. Is there a 3rd kind?

    2) Unlikely? The USB port is normally used for an external microphone/speaker, I only use the mike to speak search terms to
    google, but it works for that. I've tried two adjacent ports. do I
    have to try the other 2 front ports?


    3) Somewhat less important: How do I tell if it's an iphone 5, 6, 87, whatever? Knowing that would enable to understand webpages. For
    example, one or two say I can find the owner by pressign the home button
    or the side button and saying Siri, who's the owner. But other pages
    say the home button doesn't exist on all phones. BTW<I tried the side> key and it didnt' work, and it says that people are advised to turn Siri
    off when the phone is locked, and that's probably what he did. Still
    there are many other reasons to know what model the phone is.

    Into what did you plug it? If a computer or laptop, this is what you will see. But if you plug it into a USB charging socket (eg a charger as supplied with any phone), it should just charge.

    That said, you should hand it in as stated by Your Name - otherwise you are technically guilty of theft, no matter how good your intentions.

    Old John.
    --
    God made the integers; all else is the work of man.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to John Hill on Fri Oct 11 03:59:41 2024
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on Fri, 11 Oct 2024 07:04:17 -0000 (UTC),
    John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    On 11 Oct 2024 at 06:45:55 BST, "micky" <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    I found a locked iphone and I'm trying to return it to the owner.

    Maybe he will call me, but the battery was at 30% and now it's at 22%.
    That's only 8% in 11 hours, but still, in 33 hours it will be dead as a
    doornail. And I don't want to turn the phone off because he, or someoen
    who knows him, might call. If I turn it off now, can I turn it on
    tomorrow even though I can't unlock it? When it was at 27%, I borrowed
    a cable to charge it

    1) Most important: When plugged in, it says roughly, "Accessory
    connected. Unlock phone to use accessory", but it didn't show that it
    was charging. The icon in the upper right continues to show a percent
    but no lighting bolt and no greenness. What's going on? All I can
    imagine is that the cable is no good, but my neighbor says he keeps it
    in the basement to use there. He's not stupid.

    A friend tells me there are 3 kinds of cable plug, USB-C, Flying Harpie,
    and a third one, but I thought there were only 2 kinds. This is NOT
    USB-C. Is there a 3rd kind?

    2) Unlikely? The USB port is normally used for an external
    microphone/speaker, I only use the mike to speak search terms to
    google, but it works for that. I've tried two adjacent ports. do I
    have to try the other 2 front ports?


    3) Somewhat less important: How do I tell if it's an iphone 5, 6, 87,
    whatever? Knowing that would enable to understand webpages. For
    example, one or two say I can find the owner by pressign the home button
    or the side button and saying Siri, who's the owner. But other pages
    say the home button doesn't exist on all phones. BTW<I tried the side> key >> and it didnt' work, and it says that people are advised to turn Siri
    off when the phone is locked, and that's probably what he did. Still
    there are many other reasons to know what model the phone is.

    Into what did you plug it? If a computer or laptop, this is what you will see. >But if you plug it into a USB charging socket (eg a charger as supplied with >any phone), it should just charge.

    I should have thought of that, Hust yesterday I was in the ER and saw a
    woman charging her phone with a charger, from a strip that didn't have
    usb ports, and I said to myself, Remember to put an AC charger in the
    car. But I still didn't think of it.

    Can I use a 3.1 amp charger, the only one I don't have to hunt for, or
    should I hunt for a smaller one.



    That said, you should hand it in as stated by Your Name - otherwise you are >technically guilty of theft, no matter how good your intentions.

    My son found it but didn't tell me until we had left, I called the store
    whose parking lot it was and told them I had it and gave them my phone
    number. I did this before with an airpod in front of supermarket,
    absolutely had to leave immediately, and within 4 hours the owner had
    called the store, called me, and come over to get it. Later a second
    person called but the details didn't match up and I'm sure I gave it to
    the right noe.

    But you're wrong. I would not be guilty of theft. Maybe intentions
    don't make the difference but actions do. "If you find lost property
    and don't take reasonable steps to return it to the owner, it could be considered theft. However, if you can show that you took reasonable
    steps to find the owner, you may be able to establish that you didn't
    intend to permanently deprive the owner of the property"

    I have no use for a locked Iphone, In addition to my calling the store,
    one person called the phone about 5PM and I told him I had the phone and
    he should notify his friend and give him my phone number, and 15 minutes
    later, I saw in the notifications that he had emailed her. I expect
    she'll call my phone if she ever reads her email, but if she calls her
    phone, I want it to be working.

    Old John.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Name on Fri Oct 11 03:39:32 2024
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on Fri, 11 Oct 2024 19:44:45 +1300, Your
    Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    On 2024-10-11 05:50:36 +0000, micky said:
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on Fri, 11 Oct 2024 01:45:55 -0400, micky
    <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    If I turn it off now, can I turn it on tomorrow even though I can't unlock it?

    I saw how to turn it off, I think, but how would I turn it back on? Or
    should I leave it on all night because I might not wak up until 9 or 10
    or 11 and if he calls and it goes to voicemail, he may never call again.
    It's 2AM now.

    I would think the phone itself is broken except I found it on the
    pavement in a parking lot, with a hard rubber case, and it's not even
    cracked.

    When you find something, you're meant to take it to the appropriate
    place - the shop / business that owns the carpark, the nearest police >station, etc. You're not meant to take it home with you.

    Something about the tone you've used makes me unwilling to tell you all
    the circumstances.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com on Fri Oct 11 04:34:40 2024
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on Fri, 11 Oct 2024 04:23:15 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on Fri, 11 Oct 2024 03:59:41 -0400, micky ><NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:



    Can I use a 3.1 amp charger, the only one I don't have to hunt for, or >>should I hunt for a smaller one.

    Yes, google said that was okay even for older** iphones, and it's
    charging. (Although on the lock screen there is only a tiny lightning
    bolt and there is no green. I hope I didn't miss the little lighning
    bolt when charging from the desktop PC.

    No, I didn't miss it because the percent kept dropping. So you were
    totally right.

    OTOH, when you swipe the upper
    right corner down, it shows green and a clearly legible ligtning bolt.)

    ** (Though I have no idea how old this is. It doesn't use USB-C and a
    friend says that means it not a new model, that they've all used USB-C
    for a few years now, or the third kind of plug whose name she could not >remember. Is there a third kind?)

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com on Fri Oct 11 04:23:15 2024
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on Fri, 11 Oct 2024 03:59:41 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:



    Can I use a 3.1 amp charger, the only one I don't have to hunt for, or
    should I hunt for a smaller one.

    Yes, google said that was okay even for older** iphones, and it's
    charging. (Although on the lock screen there is only a tiny lightning
    bolt and there is no green. I hope I didn't miss the little lighning
    bolt when charging from the desktop PC. OTOH, when you swipe the upper
    right corner down, it shows green and a clearly legible ligtning bolt.)

    ** (Though I have no idea how old this is. It doesn't use USB-C and a
    friend says that means it not a new model, that they've all used USB-C
    for a few years now, or the third kind of plug whose name she could not remember. Is there a third kind?)

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Oct 11 05:53:13 2024
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on Fri, 11 Oct 2024 09:20:30 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
    I found a locked iphone and I'm trying to return it to the owner.

    Maybe he will call me, but the battery was at 30% and now it's at 22%.
    That's only 8% in 11 hours, but still, in 33 hours it will be dead as a
    doornail. And I don't want to turn the phone off because he, or someoen
    who knows him, might call. If I turn it off now, can I turn it on
    tomorrow even though I can't unlock it? When it was at 27%, I borrowed
    a cable to charge it

    1) Most important: When plugged in, it says roughly, "Accessory
    connected. Unlock phone to use accessory", but it didn't show that it
    was charging. The icon in the upper right continues to show a percent
    but no lighting bolt and no greenness. What's going on? All I can
    imagine is that the cable is no good, but my neighbor says he keeps it
    in the basement to use there. He's not stupid.

    A friend tells me there are 3 kinds of cable plug, USB-C, Flying Harpie,
    and a third one, but I thought there were only 2 kinds. This is NOT
    USB-C. Is there a 3rd kind?

    2) Unlikely? The USB port is normally used for an external
    microphone/speaker, I only use the mike to speak search terms to
    google, but it works for that. I've tried two adjacent ports. do I
    have to try the other 2 front ports?


    3) Somewhat less important: How do I tell if it's an iphone 5, 6, 87,
    whatever? Knowing that would enable to understand webpages. For
    example, one or two say I can find the owner by pressign the home button
    or the side button and saying Siri, who's the owner. But other pages
    say the home button doesn't exist on all phones. BTW< I tried the side
    key and it didnt' work, and it says that people are advised to turn Siri
    off when the phone is locked, and that's probably what he did. Still
    there are many other reasons to know what model the phone is.


    Only iPhone 15 and above use USB-C connectors. What you have is likely
    older than that and hence it uses a Lightning cable.

    Lightning, not Flying Harpie. I got the -ing right. My memory is
    fading.

    They are available at
    gas stations and anywhere else.

    I didn't want to buy one for only a day or two. I do like having
    things I haven't needed but might, but that usually happens when
    sets/multiple items are for sale together, or at yard sales.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to micky on Fri Oct 11 15:37:31 2024
    On 2024-10-11, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    A friend tells me there are 3 kinds of cable plug, USB-C, Flying Harpie,
    and a third one

    Is "Flying Harpie" a typo, or some kind of joke?

    There are three kinds of connectors on iPhones:

    - 30-pin dock connector (original iPhone up to iPhone 4s)
    - Lightning connector (iPhone 5 to 14)
    - USB-C connector (iPhone 15 onward)

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to micky on Fri Oct 11 15:30:45 2024
    On 2024-10-11, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on Fri, 11 Oct 2024 07:04:17 -0000 (UTC),
    John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Into what did you plug it? If a computer or laptop, this is what you
    will see. But if you plug it into a USB charging socket (eg a
    charger as supplied with any phone), it should just charge.

    I should have thought of that, Hust yesterday I was in the ER and saw
    a woman charging her phone with a charger, from a strip that didn't
    have usb ports, and I said to myself, Remember to put an AC charger in
    the car. But I still didn't think of it.

    Can I use a 3.1 amp charger, the only one I don't have to hunt for, or
    should I hunt for a smaller one.

    Is it a USB charger?

    You can safely charge any device with a USB charge cable with any USB
    power adapter (assuming the cable and power adapter aren't cheap
    knockoff devices that don’t actually meet USB specifications, and they
    aren't defective).

    The letter “U” in “USB” stands for “Universal”. The USB specification is
    designed so that the device and USB power adapter will automatically
    negotiate the power level that is appropriate for the device being
    charged.

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to jollyroger@pobox.com on Fri Oct 11 13:15:55 2024
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on 11 Oct 2024 15:37:31 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    On 2024-10-11, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    A friend tells me there are 3 kinds of cable plug, USB-C, Flying Harpie,
    and a third one

    Is "Flying Harpie" a typo, or some kind of joke?

    Almost a joke, but when I can't remember something my free association
    is pretty wild. Yesterday I couldn't remember Marjory Taylor Green and
    came up with Mary Tyler Moore.

    There are three kinds of connectors on iPhones:

    - 30-pin dock connector (original iPhone up to iPhone 4s)

    I've seen the docks but figured they used the same charging connector.
    That's what my friend must is thinking of, and I guess even the docks
    are not worth much anymore unless you have a very old phone.

    - Lightning connector (iPhone 5 to 14)
    - USB-C connector (iPhone 15 onward)

    I got a second call from someoen trying to reach the owner of the phone,
    and he was much more alert than the first caller. He knows her other
    phone number, called her and she called me. She has two phones, didn't
    even know she'd lost one, and couldn't figure out where she lost it. She
    went to that drugstore just to pick up an Amazon package, but used her
    other phone, thought that phone was left at home.

    (So she was not going to go to the police, and she already had no idea
    where she lost it. When she found it missing, she'd have even less
    idea. So i think I handled this correctly. She hasn't seen the email
    the guy sent her yesterday.)

    She's coming over in a little while on her way home. Since she called me
    on the phone, she says her name is Sandra and the two other callers were looking for Sandra, I don't feel the need for more proof that it's right
    match, like I did for the earpod. Maybe I'll make her unlock it.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Oct 11 17:18:23 2024
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on Fri, 11 Oct 2024 17:55:35 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on 11 Oct 2024 15:37:31 GMT, Jolly Roger
    <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    On 2024-10-11, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    A friend tells me there are 3 kinds of cable plug, USB-C, Flying Harpie, >>>> and a third one

    Is "Flying Harpie" a typo, or some kind of joke?

    Almost a joke, but when I can't remember something my free association
    is pretty wild. Yesterday I couldn't remember Marjory Taylor Green and
    came up with Mary Tyler Moore.

    There are three kinds of connectors on iPhones:

    - 30-pin dock connector (original iPhone up to iPhone 4s)

    I've seen the docks but figured they used the same charging connector.
    That's what my friend must is thinking of, and I guess even the docks
    are not worth much anymore unless you have a very old phone.

    - Lightning connector (iPhone 5 to 14)
    - USB-C connector (iPhone 15 onward)

    I got a second call from someoen trying to reach the owner of the phone,
    and he was much more alert than the first caller. He knows her other
    phone number, called her and she called me. She has two phones, didn't
    even know she'd lost one, and couldn't figure out where she lost it. She
    went to that drugstore just to pick up an Amazon package, but used her
    other phone, thought that phone was left at home.

    (So she was not going to go to the police, and she already had no idea
    where she lost it. When she found it missing, she'd have even less
    idea. So i think I handled this correctly. She hasn't seen the email
    the guy sent her yesterday.)

    She's coming over in a little while on her way home. Since she called me
    on the phone, she says her name is Sandra and the two other callers were
    looking for Sandra, I don't feel the need for more proof that it's right
    match, like I did for the earpod. Maybe I'll make her unlock it.


    iPhones have FindMy which allows you to find your phone by logging into
    your iCloud account. IÆm surprised they didnÆt use that to track it down.

    She has two phones. She didn't even know this one was missing. She was
    very polite and appreciative.

    From my side, one webpage suggest turning in Siri and asking Whose phone
    is this. ButI tried a lot of buttons and couldn't get it to work. Then
    I read tha thS users are adviced to turn off Siri when using the lock
    screen. I asked her if she'd done t hat and she said she'd never used
    Siri. ;-)

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Your Name on Fri Oct 11 18:31:56 2024
    On 2024-10-11 02:44, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-10-11 05:50:36 +0000, micky said:
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone, on Fri, 11 Oct 2024 01:45:55 -0400, micky
    <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    If I turn it off now, can I turn it on tomorrow even though I can't
    unlock it?

    I saw how to turn it off, I think, but how would I turn it back on?   Or >> should I leave it on all night because I might not wak up until 9 or 10
    or 11 and if he calls and it goes to voicemail, he may never call again.
    It's 2AM now.

    I would think the phone itself is broken except I found it on the
    pavement in a parking lot, with a hard rubber case, and it's not even
    cracked.

    When you find something, you're meant to take it to the appropriate
    place - the shop / business that owns the carpark, the nearest police station, etc. You're not meant to take it home with you.

    iPhone's are set up to allow people to help others recover their goods.

    Once "reached" the handover can be in a safe place (public, near a
    police station, for example).

    --
    "It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
    the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
    Winston Churchill

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to John Hill on Fri Oct 11 18:32:54 2024
    On 2024-10-11 03:04, John Hill wrote:

    That said, you should hand it in as stated by Your Name - otherwise you are technically guilty of theft, no matter how good your intentions.

    Nonsense.

    --
    "It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
    the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
    Winston Churchill

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to micky on Fri Oct 11 18:34:33 2024
    On 2024-10-11 03:59, micky wrote:
    But you're wrong. I would not be guilty of theft. Maybe intentions
    don't make the difference but actions do.

    Actually for a crime to have taken place, intent must be proven.

    So you're good.

    --
    "It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
    the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
    Winston Churchill

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to micky on Sat Oct 12 00:40:04 2024
    On 2024-10-11, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    I got a second call from someoen trying to reach the owner of the
    phone, and he was much more alert than the first caller. He knows her
    other phone number, called her and she called me. She has two phones,
    didn't even know she'd lost one, and couldn't figure out where she
    lost it. She went to that drugstore just to pick up an Amazon package,
    but used her other phone, thought that phone was left at home.

    Hard for me to fathom purchasing two expensive electronic devices,
    losing one, and not even being aware of it.

    --
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    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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