• Strange Problem Transferring data from PC to iPhone VLC app

    From Rick@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 9 20:39:11 2025
    This is an odd problem. I use VLC to play audios on my iPhone. When I
    need to transfer new audios from my primary home PC to the iPhone, I
    open the VLC app and click on the Networking tab and it gives me the ip
    address to connect to on the PC. It’s usually something like
    192.168.1.146. Both the phone and my PC are connected to the home
    router. When I enter this into the browser on the PC, it brings up a
    screen that says Sharing via Wi-Fi, a section that says Drop Files, and
    I literally just click and drag the audio files on the PC to that window
    which transfers them to the VLC app on the iPhone. This works great and
    I have been doing it for years with no problem. If needed, I can also
    do this transfer using either of two other PCs on my home network, which
    are a Windows 7 and another Windows 11.

    Recently for reasons I don’t understand, this transfer stopped working
    on my main Windows 11 computer. I have checked the address in VLC
    networking and it matches what I type in on the Windows 11 PC. I have
    rebooted both phone and PC. I have verified I am connected to my home
    wireless on both devices. Everything else works fine on both devices. I
    can access the internet fine on both. I can access files on the other
    PCs on the home network just fine. But this one VLC connect function
    will not work unless I engage in a weird workaround.

    As mentioned, the transfer function works on the other two PCs on the
    network. Whenever it fails to connect on my main Windows 11 machine, I
    can go to either of the other computers on the network and the transfer function comes up with no problem. At that point, I can easily transfer
    files from my main computer using either of the other PCs since all
    three PCs can see files on either of the other PCs. But that’s not the
    weird part. Once I bring up the transfer function on either of the
    other two PCs, it suddenly works on my main PC. It’s like somehow the function needs to be “primed”. At that point, the transfer will work
    fine on the main computer until I do a restart, and then the problem recurs.

    Frankly, if it always failed on the main PC but still worked on the
    other two PCs on the network, I would have some ideas about what might
    be happening and what I could do to fix it. Even the fact that it used
    to work perfectly on all three PCs and suddenly failed for no reason on
    the one could suggest a recent software change or maybe a Windows update problem as the source of the issue. But the fact that it works fine
    once it is primed by one of the other devices is quite puzzling and I’m
    not sure where to start.

    Any ideas? The PC is Windows 11 Home 24H2. The phone is iPhone 15 Pro
    with latest IOS.

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to Rick on Sat May 10 03:48:56 2025
    On Fri, 9 May 2025 20:39:11 -0400, Rick wrote :


    This is an odd problem. I use VLC to play audios on my iPhone. When I
    need to transfer new audios from my primary home PC to the iPhone, I
    open the VLC app and click on the Networking tab and it gives me the ip address to connect to on the PC. Itós usually something like
    192.168.1.146. Both the phone and my PC are connected to the home
    router. When I enter this into the browser on the PC, it brings up a
    screen that says Sharing via Wi-Fi, a section that says Drop Files, and
    I literally just click and drag the audio files on the PC to that window which transfers them to the VLC app on the iPhone. This works great and
    I have been doing it for years with no problem. If needed, I can also
    do this transfer using either of two other PCs on my home network, which
    are a Windows 7 and another Windows 11.

    Recently for reasons I donót understand, this transfer stopped working
    on my main Windows 11 computer. I have checked the address in VLC
    networking and it matches what I type in on the Windows 11 PC. I have rebooted both phone and PC. I have verified I am connected to my home wireless on both devices. Everything else works fine on both devices. I
    can access the internet fine on both. I can access files on the other
    PCs on the home network just fine. But this one VLC connect function
    will not work unless I engage in a weird workaround.

    I feel for you. I had been using that method of setting up VLC as a server
    over the Wi-Fi LAN to copy movies from the PC over to the iOS iPad.

    Most of the time it works.
    Sometimes it just fails.

    I never debugged why.
    I used to just keep trying and eventually every movie copied over.

    In your case, that's not happening, and you're trying to debug it.
    One suggestion I have for debugging is to see if "some other method" works.

    What would I suggest as "some other method" you ask?
    a. Well, of course, it would be either "SMB in the Files" app.
    b. Or, it would be LocalSend.

    Either will work but LocalSend will work while you're sitting at the PC.
    With the Files app set up as a SMB client, there's more admin overhead.

    Given the Files app is more of a PITA than is LocalSend for your debugging,
    I suggest you try LocalSend first (it will almost certainly work).
    <https://localsend.org/de/download>

    Basically, you do this:
    a. Install LocalSend on all your devices
    b. Make sure all the devices are on the same LAN
    c. Transfer the files from one device to another

    You can even go from one iOS device to another.
    Or you can go from iOS to Android.

    LocalSend works on every common consumer platform.
    Good luck!

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Rick on Sat May 10 19:07:14 2025
    I always used Samba method to stream my medias from my Debian PC's Samba
    share with its login account on my local LAN (have to be sure I'm on the
    same network [not guest WAP and others']). I also copy my media files to
    my iPhones (6+ and 12 mini with their updated iOS versions)' VLC's iOS
    app from my updated 64-bit Windows (7 HPE SP1 & 10 Pro.)'s iTunes.


    Rick <rick@nospam.com> wrote:
    This is an odd problem. I use VLC to play audios on my iPhone. When I
    need to transfer new audios from my primary home PC to the iPhone, I
    open the VLC app and click on the Networking tab and it gives me the ip address to connect to on the PC. It?s usually something like
    192.168.1.146. Both the phone and my PC are connected to the home
    router. When I enter this into the browser on the PC, it brings up a
    screen that says Sharing via Wi-Fi, a section that says Drop Files, and
    I literally just click and drag the audio files on the PC to that window which transfers them to the VLC app on the iPhone. This works great and
    I have been doing it for years with no problem. If needed, I can also
    do this transfer using either of two other PCs on my home network, which
    are a Windows 7 and another Windows 11.

    Recently for reasons I don?t understand, this transfer stopped working
    on my main Windows 11 computer. I have checked the address in VLC
    networking and it matches what I type in on the Windows 11 PC. I have rebooted both phone and PC. I have verified I am connected to my home wireless on both devices. Everything else works fine on both devices. I
    can access the internet fine on both. I can access files on the other
    PCs on the home network just fine. But this one VLC connect function
    will not work unless I engage in a weird workaround.

    As mentioned, the transfer function works on the other two PCs on the network. Whenever it fails to connect on my main Windows 11 machine, I
    can go to either of the other computers on the network and the transfer function comes up with no problem. At that point, I can easily transfer files from my main computer using either of the other PCs since all
    three PCs can see files on either of the other PCs. But that?s not the
    weird part. Once I bring up the transfer function on either of the
    other two PCs, it suddenly works on my main PC. It?s like somehow the function needs to be ?primed?. At that point, the transfer will work
    fine on the main computer until I do a restart, and then the problem recurs.

    Frankly, if it always failed on the main PC but still worked on the
    other two PCs on the network, I would have some ideas about what might
    be happening and what I could do to fix it. Even the fact that it used
    to work perfectly on all three PCs and suddenly failed for no reason on
    the one could suggest a recent software change or maybe a Windows update problem as the source of the issue. But the fact that it works fine
    once it is primed by one of the other devices is quite puzzling and I?m
    not sure where to start.

    Any ideas? The PC is Windows 11 Home 24H2. The phone is iPhone 15 Pro
    with latest IOS.

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  • From Tyrone@21:1/5 to Rick on Sat May 10 22:25:15 2025
    On May 9, 2025 at 8:39:11 PM EDT, "Rick" <rick@nospam.com> wrote:

    This is an odd problem. I use VLC to play audios on my iPhone. When I
    need to transfer new audios from my primary home PC to the iPhone, I
    open the VLC app and click on the Networking tab and it gives me the ip address to connect to on the PC. It’s usually something like 192.168.1.146. Both the phone and my PC are connected to the home
    router. When I enter this into the browser on the PC, it brings up a
    screen that says Sharing via Wi-Fi, a section that says Drop Files, and
    I literally just click and drag the audio files on the PC to that window which transfers them to the VLC app on the iPhone. This works great and
    I have been doing it for years with no problem. If needed, I can also
    do this transfer using either of two other PCs on my home network, which
    are a Windows 7 and another Windows 11.

    Recently for reasons I don’t understand, this transfer stopped working
    on my main Windows 11 computer. I have checked the address in VLC
    networking and it matches what I type in on the Windows 11 PC. I have rebooted both phone and PC. I have verified I am connected to my home wireless on both devices. Everything else works fine on both devices. I
    can access the internet fine on both. I can access files on the other
    PCs on the home network just fine. But this one VLC connect function
    will not work unless I engage in a weird workaround.

    As mentioned, the transfer function works on the other two PCs on the network. Whenever it fails to connect on my main Windows 11 machine, I
    can go to either of the other computers on the network and the transfer function comes up with no problem. At that point, I can easily transfer files from my main computer using either of the other PCs since all
    three PCs can see files on either of the other PCs. But that’s not the weird part. Once I bring up the transfer function on either of the
    other two PCs, it suddenly works on my main PC. It’s like somehow the function needs to be “primed”. At that point, the transfer will work fine on the main computer until I do a restart, and then the problem recurs.

    Frankly, if it always failed on the main PC but still worked on the
    other two PCs on the network, I would have some ideas about what might
    be happening and what I could do to fix it. Even the fact that it used
    to work perfectly on all three PCs and suddenly failed for no reason on
    the one could suggest a recent software change or maybe a Windows update problem as the source of the issue. But the fact that it works fine
    once it is primed by one of the other devices is quite puzzling and I’m
    not sure where to start.

    Any ideas? The PC is Windows 11 Home 24H2. The phone is iPhone 15 Pro
    with latest IOS.

    I would start by turning off the firewall on Windows 11.

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  • From Rick@21:1/5 to Marion on Sat May 10 21:27:58 2025
    On 5/9/2025 11:48 PM, Marion wrote:
    On Fri, 9 May 2025 20:39:11 -0400, Rick wrote :


    This is an odd problem. I use VLC to play audios on my iPhone. When I
    need to transfer new audios from my primary home PC to the iPhone, I
    open the VLC app and click on the Networking tab and it gives me the ip
    address to connect to on the PC. It┬ usually something like
    192.168.1.146. Both the phone and my PC are connected to the home
    router. When I enter this into the browser on the PC, it brings up a
    screen that says Sharing via Wi-Fi, a section that says Drop Files, and
    I literally just click and drag the audio files on the PC to that window
    which transfers them to the VLC app on the iPhone. This works great and
    I have been doing it for years with no problem. If needed, I can also
    do this transfer using either of two other PCs on my home network, which
    are a Windows 7 and another Windows 11.

    Recently for reasons I don┤ understand, this transfer stopped working
    on my main Windows 11 computer. I have checked the address in VLC
    networking and it matches what I type in on the Windows 11 PC. I have
    rebooted both phone and PC. I have verified I am connected to my home
    wireless on both devices. Everything else works fine on both devices. I
    can access the internet fine on both. I can access files on the other
    PCs on the home network just fine. But this one VLC connect function
    will not work unless I engage in a weird workaround.

    I feel for you. I had been using that method of setting up VLC as a server over the Wi-Fi LAN to copy movies from the PC over to the iOS iPad.

    Most of the time it works.
    Sometimes it just fails.

    I never debugged why.
    I used to just keep trying and eventually every movie copied over.

    In your case, that's not happening, and you're trying to debug it.
    One suggestion I have for debugging is to see if "some other method" works.

    What would I suggest as "some other method" you ask?
    a. Well, of course, it would be either "SMB in the Files" app.
    b. Or, it would be LocalSend.

    Either will work but LocalSend will work while you're sitting at the PC.
    With the Files app set up as a SMB client, there's more admin overhead.

    Given the Files app is more of a PITA than is LocalSend for your debugging,
    I suggest you try LocalSend first (it will almost certainly work).
    <https://localsend.org/de/download>

    Basically, you do this:
    a. Install LocalSend on all your devices
    b. Make sure all the devices are on the same LAN
    c. Transfer the files from one device to another

    You can even go from one iOS device to another.
    Or you can go from iOS to Android.

    LocalSend works on every common consumer platform.
    Good luck!

    To be clear, I do have a workaround which is I just prime the software
    to work by running the transfer on another PC on the network. I can
    then either do the transfer on the other PC (transferring the files from
    my main PC which I can access fro the other PC) or I just walk over to
    the main PC and the transfer now works. I am not interesting in, and
    don't really need to use different software or a different mechanism to
    get the files onto the phone.

    Also, if I use a totally different software to transfer files to the
    phone, I would have to make sure those files could now be accessed by
    the VLC software. I actually do have ways to get files into the iPhone
    music app, but I don't know how to access those files using the VLC app.

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  • From Rick@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Sat May 10 21:21:42 2025
    On 5/10/2025 6:25 PM, Tyrone wrote:
    On May 9, 2025 at 8:39:11 PM EDT, "Rick" <rick@nospam.com> wrote:

    This is an odd problem. I use VLC to play audios on my iPhone. When I
    need to transfer new audios from my primary home PC to the iPhone, I
    open the VLC app and click on the Networking tab and it gives me the ip
    address to connect to on the PC. It’s usually something like
    192.168.1.146. Both the phone and my PC are connected to the home
    router. When I enter this into the browser on the PC, it brings up a
    screen that says Sharing via Wi-Fi, a section that says Drop Files, and
    I literally just click and drag the audio files on the PC to that window
    which transfers them to the VLC app on the iPhone. This works great and
    I have been doing it for years with no problem. If needed, I can also
    do this transfer using either of two other PCs on my home network, which
    are a Windows 7 and another Windows 11.

    Recently for reasons I don’t understand, this transfer stopped working
    on my main Windows 11 computer. I have checked the address in VLC
    networking and it matches what I type in on the Windows 11 PC. I have
    rebooted both phone and PC. I have verified I am connected to my home
    wireless on both devices. Everything else works fine on both devices. I
    can access the internet fine on both. I can access files on the other
    PCs on the home network just fine. But this one VLC connect function
    will not work unless I engage in a weird workaround.

    As mentioned, the transfer function works on the other two PCs on the
    network. Whenever it fails to connect on my main Windows 11 machine, I
    can go to either of the other computers on the network and the transfer
    function comes up with no problem. At that point, I can easily transfer
    files from my main computer using either of the other PCs since all
    three PCs can see files on either of the other PCs. But that’s not the
    weird part. Once I bring up the transfer function on either of the
    other two PCs, it suddenly works on my main PC. It’s like somehow the
    function needs to be “primed”. At that point, the transfer will work
    fine on the main computer until I do a restart, and then the problem recurs. >>
    Frankly, if it always failed on the main PC but still worked on the
    other two PCs on the network, I would have some ideas about what might
    be happening and what I could do to fix it. Even the fact that it used
    to work perfectly on all three PCs and suddenly failed for no reason on
    the one could suggest a recent software change or maybe a Windows update
    problem as the source of the issue. But the fact that it works fine
    once it is primed by one of the other devices is quite puzzling and I’m
    not sure where to start.

    Any ideas? The PC is Windows 11 Home 24H2. The phone is iPhone 15 Pro
    with latest IOS.

    I would start by turning off the firewall on Windows 11.

    Sorry, I should have mentioned that I did try disabling the firewall as
    well as the anti-virus software, and it did not affect anything.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Rick on Sun May 11 22:23:48 2025
    Rick <rick@nospam.com> wrote:
    ...
    Also, if I use a totally different software to transfer files to the
    phone, I would have to make sure those files could now be accessed by
    the VLC software. I actually do have ways to get files into the iPhone
    music app, but I don't know how to access those files using the VLC app.

    In my 64-bit Windows (7 HPE SP1 & 10 Pro.), I use old school iTunes's
    VLC's iOS app with iPhones (6+ and 12 mini) connected via USB. I just
    copy the medias into VLC iOS app.

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun May 11 23:19:29 2025
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 19:07:14 -0000 (UTC), Ant wrote :


    I always used Samba method to stream my medias from my Debian PC's Samba share with its login account on my local LAN (have to be sure I'm on the
    same network [not guest WAP and others']). I also copy my media files to
    my iPhones (6+ and 12 mini with their updated iOS versions)' VLC's iOS
    app from my updated 64-bit Windows (7 HPE SP1 & 10 Pro.)'s iTunes.

    Luckily, Apple doesn't support Linux, so Linux works fine with iOS because Apple can't break the interoperatbility like Apple did with Windows.

    Linux works fine to copy files from the Linux PC to the iOS VLC app.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/s2x0f9Js/files14.jpg> Linux, win10 & iOS together
    <https://i.postimg.cc/g269S8rT/files13.jpg> How does macOS work with iOS?
    <https://i.postimg.cc/pVJf72fN/files12.jpg> iOS hacks very often will fail
    <https://i.postimg.cc/cChf8mx1/files11.jpg> iOS requires hacks to copy
    <https://i.postimg.cc/9MGdc2s7/files10.jpg> Android is 2-way fast over USB
    <https://i.postimg.cc/mDx3xkp4/files09.jpg> iOS is only DCIM & only 1-way
    <https://i.postimg.cc/3xcCBngd/files08.jpg> iOS is a dumb brick on Windows
    <https://i.postimg.cc/KjK4nHwf/files07.jpg> Ubuntu is two-way, everything
    <https://i.postimg.cc/Jhmy9KH7/files06.jpg> Ubuntu iFuse is just magical
    <https://i.postimg.cc/qqg61Rh8/files05.jpg> Ubuntu, movies _to_ iOS on USB
    <https://i.postimg.cc/QMk7tvZW/files04.jpg> Ubuntu is two way, everything
    <https://i.postimg.cc/d3SGkdgr/files03.jpg> Android is two way, everything
    <https://i.postimg.cc/L8b18Zmx/files02.jpg> iOS "Files" is nothing useful
    <https://i.postimg.cc/NFkXsJ0X/files01.jpg> iOS/Win is 1-way & DCIM only

    The *less* Apple supports something, the more interoperable it is with iOS!

    Ask me how I know this...
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios180.jpg> Read & write all!
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios170.jpg> Anywhere you want
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios160.jpg> Any file you want
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios150.jpg> Copy Win10 to iOS
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios140.jpg> read & write iOS
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios130.jpg> iFuse mounts all!
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios120.jpg> iFuse mounts iOS
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios110.jpg> iFuse Windows mnt
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios100.jpg> iFuse is native
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios090.jpg> Nobody knows this
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios080.jpg> The trick!
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios070.jpg> Look closely
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios060.jpg> Both read & write
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios050.jpg> Including DCIM
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios040.jpg> View iOS filesys
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios030.jpg> iOS mounts
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios020.jpg> Allow access?
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios010.jpg> Trust Computer?
    <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios000.jpg> Ubuntu before iOS

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Marion on Sun May 11 17:57:26 2025
    On 2025-05-11 16:19, Marion wrote:
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 19:07:14 -0000 (UTC), Ant wrote :


    I always used Samba method to stream my medias from my Debian PC's Samba
    share with its login account on my local LAN (have to be sure I'm on the
    same network [not guest WAP and others']). I also copy my media files to
    my iPhones (6+ and 12 mini with their updated iOS versions)' VLC's iOS
    app from my updated 64-bit Windows (7 HPE SP1 & 10 Pro.)'s iTunes.

    Luckily, Apple doesn't support Linux, so Linux works fine with iOS because Apple can't break the interoperatbility like Apple did with Windows.

    I love the way you just make up shit.

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