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They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote:
Alan wrote:So your lymphocytes can do their own research against an antigen (spike protein) that is ephemeral and matches one of the main antigens (spike protein) of a virus that is much less ephemeral and has worse and longer lasting repercussions than the vaccine. Duh!
On 2024-08-02 17:16, They're all DEAD, LOL! wrote:
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote:
Chris wrote:Funny how antivax kooks manage to inject their bullshit into almost any >>>>> topic. I’ve had every COVID shot, never got COVID, and I am still alive.
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrew <andrew@spam.net> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's biggest apologists.
Does anyone know why he just disappeared without even saying goodbye? >>>>>>>>>
Arlen suggested his contract with Apple expired and he wasn’t going to
defend the indefensible for free.
I just hope nothing happened to him health wise.
There can be many reasons why, but given how regular he was and how abrupt
his disappearance, it can't be discounted sadly.
nospam and Lewis (g.kreme) are likely dead from the Covid shots or the >>>>>> virus itself (despite them both being proudly "vaxxed" and boosted). >>>>>>
And good riddance.
I had COVID before the shots came out. My immunity is FAR SUPERIOR
to yours, durable, and I suffered no long lasting effects. In fact,
I haven't been sick since.
Your degree is in... ...what?
Irrelevant. Universities only hand out degrees in Stupid. This has
been true for decades.
Go enjoy your preventable measles and polio you plague rat.
I was vaccinated against measles and polio with shots that actually
WORKED as claimed, unlike the COVID shots.
I hope you die of 'suddenly'.
Do you even know (without googling) what mRNA is?
What good could POSSIBLY come of hijacking the cells in your body to
produce a KNOWN TOXIC spike protein?
A vaccine hijacking your cells to produce spike protein which confers immunity to SARS-CoV-2 is far preferable to the actual virus hijacking your cells, especially when people were immunologically naive. Nowadays either
the virus or the vaccine will update immunity in complex ways given imprinting. I would prefer the vaccine.
As I have never been sick from COVID, my immunity is superior to yours
since you actually caught it. Immunity to COVID for most is fleeting
because the virus evolves so readily. Our B cells evolve too due to
mutation of DNA and selection of better adapted variants. Again I would rather this process happen in response to a vaccine than a pathogen.
If bird/cattle H5 goes pandemic far more may die than from COVID due to
kill rate. States are banning masks, dumfounded dipshits will refuse
eventual H5 vaccines (preferring deworming meds and drinking bleach
instead), and a litigious powerful industry will drag its feet as people
drop like flies. Fun times on the horizon.
Antivax twits will still spread deadly lies. Example…you.
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote:
Alan wrote:So your lymphocytes can do their own research against an antigen (spike
On 2024-08-02 17:16, They're all DEAD, LOL! wrote:
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote:
Chris wrote:Funny how antivax kooks manage to inject their bullshit into
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrew
<andrew@spam.net>
wrote:
Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's
biggest apologists.
Does anyone know why he just disappeared without even saying >>>>>>>>>> goodbye?
Arlen suggested his contract with Apple expired and he wasn’t >>>>>>>>> going to
defend the indefensible for free.
I just hope nothing happened to him health wise.
There can be many reasons why, but given how regular he was and >>>>>>>> how abrupt
his disappearance, it can't be discounted sadly.
nospam and Lewis (g.kreme) are likely dead from the Covid shots
or the
virus itself (despite them both being proudly "vaxxed" and boosted). >>>>>>>
And good riddance.
almost any
topic. I’ve had every COVID shot, never got COVID, and I am still >>>>>> alive.
I had COVID before the shots came out. My immunity is FAR SUPERIOR
to yours, durable, and I suffered no long lasting effects. In fact,
I haven't been sick since.
Your degree is in... ...what?
Irrelevant. Universities only hand out degrees in Stupid. This has
been true for decades.
Go enjoy your preventable measles and polio you plague rat.
I was vaccinated against measles and polio with shots that actually
WORKED as claimed, unlike the COVID shots.
I hope you die of 'suddenly'.
Do you even know (without googling) what mRNA is?
What good could POSSIBLY come of hijacking the cells in your body to
produce a KNOWN TOXIC spike protein?
protein) that is ephemeral and matches one of the main antigens (spike
protein) of a virus that is much less ephemeral and has worse and longer
lasting repercussions than the vaccine. Duh!
A vaccine hijacking your cells to produce spike protein which confers
immunity to SARS-CoV-2 is far preferable to the actual virus hijacking
your
cells, especially when people were immunologically naive. Nowadays either
the virus or the vaccine will update immunity in complex ways given
imprinting. I would prefer the vaccine.
The virus can stay confined to one area of the body, such as the lungs.
The spike proteins produced as a result of the shot do NOT stay confined
in such a manner.
As I have never been sick from COVID, my immunity is superior to yours
since you actually caught it. Immunity to COVID for most is fleeting
because the virus evolves so readily. Our B cells evolve too due to
mutation of DNA and selection of better adapted variants. Again I would
rather this process happen in response to a vaccine than a pathogen.
Your immunity is NOT better than my natural immunity. For one, the spike protein mutates frequently, thereby rendering the shots ineffective after
a few months. That's why YOU have to keep getting "boosters". MY immunity, however, includes recognition of other parts of the virus, including, for instance, the nucleocapsid protein, which changes not nearly as frequently.
Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's biggest apologists.
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrew <andrew@spam.net>
wrote:
Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's biggest apologists. >>>Does anyone know why he just disappeared without even saying goodbye?
Arlen suggested his contract with Apple expired and he wasn’t going to
defend the indefensible for free.
I just hope nothing happened to him health wise.
There can be many reasons why, but given how regular he was and how abrupt his disappearance, it can't be discounted sadly.
nospam and Lewis (g.kreme) are likely dead from the Covid shots or the
virus itself (despite them both being proudly "vaxxed" and boosted).
Chris wrote:
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrew <andrew@spam.net>
wrote:
Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's biggest apologists.
Does anyone know why he just disappeared without even saying goodbye?
Arlen suggested his contract with Apple expired and he wasn’t going to >>> defend the indefensible for free.
I just hope nothing happened to him health wise.
There can be many reasons why, but given how regular he was and how abrupt >> his disappearance, it can't be discounted sadly.
nospam and Lewis (g.kreme) are likely dead from the Covid shots or the
virus itself (despite them both being proudly "vaxxed" and boosted).
And good riddance.
They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote:
Chris wrote:Funny how antivax kooks manage to inject their bullshit into almost any topic. I’ve had every COVID shot, never got COVID, and I am still alive.
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrew <andrew@spam.net>
wrote:
Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's biggest apologists.
Does anyone know why he just disappeared without even saying goodbye? >>>>>
Arlen suggested his contract with Apple expired and he wasn’t going to >>>> defend the indefensible for free.
I just hope nothing happened to him health wise.
There can be many reasons why, but given how regular he was and how abrupt >>> his disappearance, it can't be discounted sadly.
nospam and Lewis (g.kreme) are likely dead from the Covid shots or the
virus itself (despite them both being proudly "vaxxed" and boosted).
And good riddance.
Go enjoy your preventable measles and polio you plague rat.
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote:
Chris wrote:Funny how antivax kooks manage to inject their bullshit into almost any
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrew <andrew@spam.net> >>>>>> wrote:
Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's biggest
apologists.
Does anyone know why he just disappeared without even saying goodbye? >>>>>>
Arlen suggested his contract with Apple expired and he wasn’t going to >>>>> defend the indefensible for free.
I just hope nothing happened to him health wise.
There can be many reasons why, but given how regular he was and how
abrupt
his disappearance, it can't be discounted sadly.
nospam and Lewis (g.kreme) are likely dead from the Covid shots or the
virus itself (despite them both being proudly "vaxxed" and boosted).
And good riddance.
topic. I’ve had every COVID shot, never got COVID, and I am still alive.
I had COVID before the shots came out. My immunity is FAR SUPERIOR
to yours, durable, and I suffered no long lasting effects. In fact,
I haven't been sick since.
Go enjoy your preventable measles and polio you plague rat.
I was vaccinated against measles and polio with shots that actually
WORKED as claimed, unlike the COVID shots.
I hope you die of 'suddenly'.
On 2024-08-02 17:16, They're all DEAD, LOL! wrote:
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote:I had COVID before the shots came out. My immunity is FAR SUPERIOR
Chris wrote:Funny how antivax kooks manage to inject their bullshit into almost any
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrew <andrew@spam.net> >>>>>>> wrote:
Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's biggest apologists.
Does anyone know why he just disappeared without even saying goodbye? >>>>>>>
Arlen suggested his contract with Apple expired and he wasn’t going to >>>>>> defend the indefensible for free.
I just hope nothing happened to him health wise.
There can be many reasons why, but given how regular he was and how abrupt
his disappearance, it can't be discounted sadly.
nospam and Lewis (g.kreme) are likely dead from the Covid shots or the >>>> virus itself (despite them both being proudly "vaxxed" and boosted).
And good riddance.
topic. I’ve had every COVID shot, never got COVID, and I am still alive. >>
to yours, durable, and I suffered no long lasting effects. In fact,
I haven't been sick since.
Your degree is in... ...what?
Go enjoy your preventable measles and polio you plague rat.
I was vaccinated against measles and polio with shots that actually
WORKED as claimed, unlike the COVID shots.
I hope you die of 'suddenly'.
Do you even know (without googling) what mRNA is?
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote:
Chris wrote:Funny how antivax kooks manage to inject their bullshit into almost any
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrew <andrew@spam.net> >>>>>> wrote:
Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's biggest apologists.
Does anyone know why he just disappeared without even saying goodbye? >>>>>>
Arlen suggested his contract with Apple expired and he wasn’t going to >>>>> defend the indefensible for free.
I just hope nothing happened to him health wise.
There can be many reasons why, but given how regular he was and how abrupt >>>> his disappearance, it can't be discounted sadly.
nospam and Lewis (g.kreme) are likely dead from the Covid shots or the
virus itself (despite them both being proudly "vaxxed" and boosted).
And good riddance.
topic. I’ve had every COVID shot, never got COVID, and I am still alive.
I had COVID before the shots came out. My immunity is FAR SUPERIOR
to yours, durable, and I suffered no long lasting effects. In fact,
I haven't been sick since.
Go enjoy your preventable measles and polio you plague rat.
I was vaccinated against measles and polio with shots that actually
WORKED as claimed, unlike the COVID shots.
I hope you die of 'suddenly'.
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-02 17:16, They're all DEAD, LOL! wrote:
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote:
Chris wrote:Funny how antivax kooks manage to inject their bullshit into almost any >>>> topic. I’ve had every COVID shot, never got COVID, and I am still
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrew <andrew@spam.net> >>>>>>>> wrote:
Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's biggest >>>>>>>>> apologists.
Does anyone know why he just disappeared without even saying
goodbye?
Arlen suggested his contract with Apple expired and he wasn’t
going to
defend the indefensible for free.
I just hope nothing happened to him health wise.
There can be many reasons why, but given how regular he was and
how abrupt
his disappearance, it can't be discounted sadly.
nospam and Lewis (g.kreme) are likely dead from the Covid shots or the >>>>> virus itself (despite them both being proudly "vaxxed" and boosted). >>>>>
And good riddance.
alive.
I had COVID before the shots came out. My immunity is FAR SUPERIOR
to yours, durable, and I suffered no long lasting effects. In fact,
I haven't been sick since.
Your degree is in... ...what?
Irrelevant. Universities only hand out degrees in Stupid. This has
been true for decades.
Go enjoy your preventable measles and polio you plague rat.
I was vaccinated against measles and polio with shots that actually
WORKED as claimed, unlike the COVID shots.
I hope you die of 'suddenly'.
Do you even know (without googling) what mRNA is?
What good could POSSIBLY come of hijacking the cells in your body to
produce a KNOWN TOXIC spike protein?
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-02 17:16, They're all DEAD, LOL! wrote:
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote:I had COVID before the shots came out. My immunity is FAR SUPERIOR
Chris wrote:Funny how antivax kooks manage to inject their bullshit into almost any >>>> topic. I’ve had every COVID shot, never got COVID, and I am still alive. >>>
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrew <andrew@spam.net> >>>>>>>> wrote:
Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's biggest apologists.
Does anyone know why he just disappeared without even saying goodbye? >>>>>>>>
Arlen suggested his contract with Apple expired and he wasn’t going to
defend the indefensible for free.
I just hope nothing happened to him health wise.
There can be many reasons why, but given how regular he was and how abrupt
his disappearance, it can't be discounted sadly.
nospam and Lewis (g.kreme) are likely dead from the Covid shots or the >>>>> virus itself (despite them both being proudly "vaxxed" and boosted). >>>>>
And good riddance.
to yours, durable, and I suffered no long lasting effects. In fact,
I haven't been sick since.
Your degree is in... ...what?
Irrelevant. Universities only hand out degrees in Stupid. This has
been true for decades.
Go enjoy your preventable measles and polio you plague rat.
I was vaccinated against measles and polio with shots that actually
WORKED as claimed, unlike the COVID shots.
I hope you die of 'suddenly'.
Do you even know (without googling) what mRNA is?
What good could POSSIBLY come of hijacking the cells in your body to
produce a KNOWN TOXIC spike protein?
On 2024-08-04 19:46, They're all DEAD, LOL! wrote:
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote:
Alan wrote:So your lymphocytes can do their own research against an antigen (spike
On 2024-08-02 17:16, They're all DEAD, LOL! wrote:
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote: >>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
Funny how antivax kooks manage to inject their bullshit intobadgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrew
<andrew@spam.net>
wrote:
Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's >>>>>>>>>>>> biggest apologists.
Does anyone know why he just disappeared without even saying >>>>>>>>>>> goodbye?
Arlen suggested his contract with Apple expired and he wasn’t >>>>>>>>>> going to
defend the indefensible for free.
I just hope nothing happened to him health wise.
There can be many reasons why, but given how regular he was and >>>>>>>>> how abrupt
his disappearance, it can't be discounted sadly.
nospam and Lewis (g.kreme) are likely dead from the Covid shots >>>>>>>> or the
virus itself (despite them both being proudly "vaxxed" and boosted). >>>>>>>>
And good riddance.
almost any
topic. I’ve had every COVID shot, never got COVID, and I am still >>>>>>> alive.
I had COVID before the shots came out. My immunity is FAR SUPERIOR >>>>>> to yours, durable, and I suffered no long lasting effects. In fact, >>>>>> I haven't been sick since.
Your degree is in... ...what?
Irrelevant. Universities only hand out degrees in Stupid. This has
been true for decades.
Go enjoy your preventable measles and polio you plague rat.
I was vaccinated against measles and polio with shots that actually >>>>>> WORKED as claimed, unlike the COVID shots.
I hope you die of 'suddenly'.
Do you even know (without googling) what mRNA is?
What good could POSSIBLY come of hijacking the cells in your body to
produce a KNOWN TOXIC spike protein?
protein) that is ephemeral and matches one of the main antigens (spike
protein) of a virus that is much less ephemeral and has worse and longer >>> lasting repercussions than the vaccine. Duh!
A vaccine hijacking your cells to produce spike protein which confers
immunity to SARS-CoV-2 is far preferable to the actual virus hijacking
your
cells, especially when people were immunologically naive. Nowadays either >>> the virus or the vaccine will update immunity in complex ways given
imprinting. I would prefer the vaccine.
The virus can stay confined to one area of the body, such as the lungs.
The spike proteins produced as a result of the shot do NOT stay confined
in such a manner.
No. The virus is everywhere, but happens to affect the lungs worse.
As I have never been sick from COVID, my immunity is superior to yours
since you actually caught it. Immunity to COVID for most is fleeting
because the virus evolves so readily. Our B cells evolve too due to
mutation of DNA and selection of better adapted variants. Again I would
rather this process happen in response to a vaccine than a pathogen.
Your immunity is NOT better than my natural immunity. For one, the spike
protein mutates frequently, thereby rendering the shots ineffective after
a few months. That's why YOU have to keep getting "boosters". MY immunity, >> however, includes recognition of other parts of the virus, including, for
instance, the nucleocapsid protein, which changes not nearly as frequently.
Your degree is in... ...what?
On 9 Aug 2024 at 01:51:22 BST, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-08-04 19:46, They're all DEAD, LOL! wrote:Anyone who asserts “The only people lying were those who were pro clot
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote:
Alan wrote:So your lymphocytes can do their own research against an antigen (spike >>>>> protein) that is ephemeral and matches one of the main antigens (spike >>>>> protein) of a virus that is much less ephemeral and has worse and longer >>>>> lasting repercussions than the vaccine. Duh!
On 2024-08-02 17:16, They're all DEAD, LOL! wrote:
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
Funny how antivax kooks manage to inject their bullshit into >>>>>>>>> almost anybadgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrew
<andrew@spam.net>
wrote:
Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> biggest apologists.
Does anyone know why he just disappeared without even saying >>>>>>>>>>>>> goodbye?
Arlen suggested his contract with Apple expired and he wasn’t >>>>>>>>>>>> going to
defend the indefensible for free.
I just hope nothing happened to him health wise.
There can be many reasons why, but given how regular he was and >>>>>>>>>>> how abrupt
his disappearance, it can't be discounted sadly.
nospam and Lewis (g.kreme) are likely dead from the Covid shots >>>>>>>>>> or the
virus itself (despite them both being proudly "vaxxed" and boosted). >>>>>>>>>>
And good riddance.
topic. I’ve had every COVID shot, never got COVID, and I am still >>>>>>>>> alive.
I had COVID before the shots came out. My immunity is FAR SUPERIOR >>>>>>>> to yours, durable, and I suffered no long lasting effects. In fact, >>>>>>>> I haven't been sick since.
Your degree is in... ...what?
Irrelevant. Universities only hand out degrees in Stupid. This has >>>>>> been true for decades.
Go enjoy your preventable measles and polio you plague rat.
I was vaccinated against measles and polio with shots that actually >>>>>>>> WORKED as claimed, unlike the COVID shots.
I hope you die of 'suddenly'.
Do you even know (without googling) what mRNA is?
What good could POSSIBLY come of hijacking the cells in your body to >>>>>> produce a KNOWN TOXIC spike protein?
A vaccine hijacking your cells to produce spike protein which confers >>>>> immunity to SARS-CoV-2 is far preferable to the actual virus hijacking >>>>> your
cells, especially when people were immunologically naive. Nowadays either >>>>> the virus or the vaccine will update immunity in complex ways given
imprinting. I would prefer the vaccine.
The virus can stay confined to one area of the body, such as the lungs. >>>> The spike proteins produced as a result of the shot do NOT stay confined >>>> in such a manner.
No. The virus is everywhere, but happens to affect the lungs worse.
As I have never been sick from COVID, my immunity is superior to yours >>>>> since you actually caught it. Immunity to COVID for most is fleeting >>>>> because the virus evolves so readily. Our B cells evolve too due to
mutation of DNA and selection of better adapted variants. Again I would >>>>> rather this process happen in response to a vaccine than a pathogen.
Your immunity is NOT better than my natural immunity. For one, the spike >>>> protein mutates frequently, thereby rendering the shots ineffective after >>>> a few months. That's why YOU have to keep getting "boosters". MY immunity, >>>> however, includes recognition of other parts of the virus, including, for >>>> instance, the nucleocapsid protein, which changes not nearly as frequently.
Your degree is in... ...what?
shot.” is incapable of arguing in good faith and discredits themselves. I >> will not be dissuaded from getting my updated shot this fall, though I
might time it a little later. Worked well so far. Given I never suffered
COVID that long COVID nightmare has not reared its ugly head for me.
Clot shots? Clot virus.
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20240318/covid-vaccines-reduce-risk-heart-failure-clots
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/vaccines-cut-risk-post-covid-heart-failure-blood-clots-least-6-months-data-suggest
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/should-you-be-worried-about-blood-clots-with-covid-19
I have just recovered, undamaged, from COVID. At my age it might well have been Finito had it not been for the vaccines and boosters.
I shall gladly take any further boosters as soon as they are offered to me, which they surely will be sometime in the Autumn.
I shall gladly take any further boosters as soon as they are offered to me, which they surely will be sometime in the Autumn.
What good could POSSIBLY come of hijacking the cells in your body to
produce a KNOWN TOXIC spike protein?
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
No-one
recovers from death.
Well, there have been a few…
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-11 03:29, badgolferman wrote:
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
No-one
recovers from death.
Well, there have been a few…
No... ...there really have not.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/can-people-come-back-from-the-dead-1298424
https://upworthyscience.com/coming-back-from-the-dead-is-no-longer-science-fiction/particle-7
No-one recovers from death.
Well, there have been a fewíK
No... ...there really have not.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/can-people-come-back-from-the-dead-1298424
https://upworthyscience.com/coming-back-from-the-dead-is-no-longer-science-fiction/particle-7
No-one
recovers from death.
Well, there have been a fewíK
A tiny number and usually because of incompetence or highly strange situations.
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-12 04:26, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-11 03:29, badgolferman wrote:
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
No-one
recovers from death.
Well, there have been a few…
No... ...there really have not.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/can-people-come-back-from-the-dead-1298424 >>>
https://upworthyscience.com/coming-back-from-the-dead-is-no-longer-science-fiction/particle-7
I'm sorry, but that is all just semantic games.
In 2008, Thomas suffered a cardiac arrest at her Virginia home.
Following hospitalization, she suffered two further heart attacks and
was connected to a ventilator.
During her stay in hospital, Thomas' heart stopped beating a remarkable
three times as she received treatment from doctors and entered a state
of clinical death, the medical term for when the heart stops beating in
a regular rhythm, causing the body the stop breathing and halting blood circulation.
The doctors made increased efforts to save the woman, who displayed no
signs of brain activity, including an unsuccessful attempt at induced hypothermia in a form of targeted temperature management.
However, it was 10 minutes after doctors had disconnected Thomas from
the ventilator when she shocked the world by suddenly waking up from
her clinical death state - after 17 long hours.
he Lazarus phenomenon, also known as Lazarus syndrome or
autoresuscitation after failed cardiopulmonary resuscitation, describes
the spontaneous return of cardiac rhythm following failed attempts to
restore the heartbeat.
The first case of the rare phenomenon was reported in 1982. At least 38
cases were reported worldwide as of 2007, according to a study
published that year in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine.
https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/mind-and-spirit/article-723099
Alan wrote:
All you've discovered is that the metrics for declaring death are
wrong.
Death, by definition, is that state from which you cannot come back.
This is no different than when doctors used to believe that no
heartbeat was definitive proof of death.
When did you become a doctor?
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-12 09:40, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
All you've discovered is that the metrics for declaring death are
wrong.
Death, by definition, is that state from which you cannot come
back.
This is no different than when doctors used to believe that no
heartbeat was definitive proof of death.
When did you become a doctor?
One doesn't have to be a doctor to realize that there is a difference
between how we DECIDE if someone is dead vs whether or not they are
actually dead.
Well, all those doctors declared these people back from the dead. That contradicts the original declaration that no one recovers from the
death.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-08-12 10:22, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-12 09:40, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
All you've discovered is that the metrics for declaring death are
wrong.
Death, by definition, is that state from which you cannot come
back.
This is no different than when doctors used to believe that no
heartbeat was definitive proof of death.
When did you become a doctor?
One doesn't have to be a doctor to realize that there is a difference
between how we DECIDE if someone is dead vs whether or not they are
actually dead.
Well, all those doctors declared these people back from the dead. That
contradicts the original declaration that no one recovers from the
death.
All the doctors who didn't have the tools to determine if there was
brain activity declared people dead and they weren't dead eithers.
No one recovers from being actually dead.
People DO recover from being declared dead.
Is that simple enough for you?
A doctor declaring someone dead does not mean they are ACTUALLY dead.
A long time ago, scientists declared that the sun revolved around the earth. >>
Do you get me yet?
The article I posted was describing an incident from 2008. Do they qualify
as backward superstitious doctors who can’t determine if people are dead?
I’m sure you’re way smarter than they were so you can likely answer that question.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-08-12 12:53, badgolferman wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:They never seem "backward" or "superstitious" in recent history, but
On 2024-08-12 10:22, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-12 09:40, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
All you've discovered is that the metrics for declaring death are >>>>>>>> wrong.
Death, by definition, is that state from which you cannot come >>>>>>>> back.
This is no different than when doctors used to believe that no >>>>>>>> heartbeat was definitive proof of death.
When did you become a doctor?
One doesn't have to be a doctor to realize that there is a difference >>>>>> between how we DECIDE if someone is dead vs whether or not they are >>>>>> actually dead.
Well, all those doctors declared these people back from the dead. That >>>>> contradicts the original declaration that no one recovers from the
death.
All the doctors who didn't have the tools to determine if there was
brain activity declared people dead and they weren't dead eithers.
No one recovers from being actually dead.
People DO recover from being declared dead.
Is that simple enough for you?
A doctor declaring someone dead does not mean they are ACTUALLY dead.
A long time ago, scientists declared that the sun revolved around the earth.
Do you get me yet?
The article I posted was describing an incident from 2008. Do they qualify >>> as backward superstitious doctors who can’t determine if people are dead? >>
they simply didn't have the tools.
I’m sure you’re way smarter than they were so you can likely answer that
question.
I don't have to be smarter to know that as science evolves we learn more
and more.
The doctors in the (say) 1950s (or at some earlier time) declared people
dead based on the lack of a pulse. Were they "backward" or
"superstitious" based on the fact that we learned that the heart could
be restarted?
https://youtu.be/3AZnv1GBLw4?si=cY20vQss7FGSknmP
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-08-12 19:06, badgolferman wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-08-12 12:53, badgolferman wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-08-12 10:22, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-12 09:40, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
All you've discovered is that the metrics for declaring death are >>>>>>>>>> wrong.
Death, by definition, is that state from which you cannot come >>>>>>>>>> back.
This is no different than when doctors used to believe that no >>>>>>>>>> heartbeat was definitive proof of death.
When did you become a doctor?
One doesn't have to be a doctor to realize that there is a difference >>>>>>>> between how we DECIDE if someone is dead vs whether or not they are >>>>>>>> actually dead.
Well, all those doctors declared these people back from the dead. That >>>>>>> contradicts the original declaration that no one recovers from the >>>>>>> death.
All the doctors who didn't have the tools to determine if there was >>>>>> brain activity declared people dead and they weren't dead eithers. >>>>>>
No one recovers from being actually dead.
People DO recover from being declared dead.
Is that simple enough for you?
A doctor declaring someone dead does not mean they are ACTUALLY dead. >>>>>>
A long time ago, scientists declared that the sun revolved around the earth.
Do you get me yet?
The article I posted was describing an incident from 2008. Do they qualify
as backward superstitious doctors who can’t determine if people are dead?
They never seem "backward" or "superstitious" in recent history, but
they simply didn't have the tools.
I’m sure you’re way smarter than they were so you can likely answer that
question.
I don't have to be smarter to know that as science evolves we learn more >>>> and more.
The doctors in the (say) 1950s (or at some earlier time) declared people >>>> dead based on the lack of a pulse. Were they "backward" or
"superstitious" based on the fact that we learned that the heart could >>>> be restarted?
https://youtu.be/3AZnv1GBLw4?si=cY20vQss7FGSknmP
Sorry, but I don't go search for what you want to say in videos.
Do you understand that doctors (science) currently have incomplete
information about what actually constitutes whether or not a person is
ACTUALLY dead?
Yes or no.
Answer that, and we can move on to the next question.
Did you even look at the video?
Alan wrote:
Now answer my question.
Now we have moved on to an interrogation from the bulldog who can never
let go.
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-13 08:31, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
Now answer my question.
Now we have moved on to an interrogation from the bulldog who can
never let go.
Now we have moved to the phase where you refuse to have a discussion,
and instead reply with memes.
Back on the topic of whether anyone has ever come back from the dead:
Do you understand that doctors (science) currently have incomplete
information about what actually constitutes whether or not a person
is ACTUALLY dead?
Yes or no.
It's interesting how you frame your question in a sly way so you will
be right however I answer it. It would be more honest of you to just
state your case rather than attempt to walk me into your trap.
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-13 08:31, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
Now answer my question.
Now we have moved on to an interrogation from the bulldog who can
never let go.
Now we have moved to the phase where you refuse to have a discussion,
and instead reply with memes.
Back on the topic of whether anyone has ever come back from the dead:
Do you understand that doctors (science) currently have incomplete
information about what actually constitutes whether or not a person
is ACTUALLY dead?
Yes or no.
It's interesting how you frame your question in a sly way so you will
be right however I answer it. It would be more honest of you to just
state your case rather than attempt to walk me into your trap.
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-13 09:18, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-13 08:31, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
Now answer my question.
Now we have moved on to an interrogation from the bulldog who
can never let go.
Now we have moved to the phase where you refuse to have a
discussion, and instead reply with memes.
Back on the topic of whether anyone has ever come back from the
dead:
Do you understand that doctors (science) currently have incomplete
information about what actually constitutes whether or not a
person is ACTUALLY dead?
Yes or no.
It's interesting how you frame your question in a sly way so you
will be right however I answer it. It would be more honest of you
to just state your case rather than attempt to walk me into your
trap.
My case is that someone who currently is declared dead by the tests
available to us today who "comes back to life" was never dead in the
first place.
Just like people who were declared dead because they had no pulse
were never actually dead back when THAT was the metric used to
declare death.
Those people were declared dead by the science (doctors) of the time.
Using the standards of today to judge people from the past is unfair.
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-13 10:33, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-13 09:18, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-13 08:31, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
Now answer my question.
Now we have moved on to an interrogation from the bulldog
who can never let go.
Now we have moved to the phase where you refuse to have a
discussion, and instead reply with memes.
Back on the topic of whether anyone has ever come back from
the dead:
Do you understand that doctors (science) currently have
incomplete information about what actually constitutes
whether or not a person is ACTUALLY dead?
Yes or no.
It's interesting how you frame your question in a sly way so you
will be right however I answer it. It would be more honest of
you to just state your case rather than attempt to walk me into
your trap.
My case is that someone who currently is declared dead by the
tests available to us today who "comes back to life" was never
dead in the first place.
Just like people who were declared dead because they had no pulse
were never actually dead back when THAT was the metric used to
declare death.
Those people were declared dead by the science (doctors) of the
time.
But we now KNOW they weren't... ...right?
Those doctors were wrong, because they didn't understand things as
well as we do now... ...right?
Using the standards of today to judge people from the past is
unfair.
I'm not judging PEOPLE. Well... ...except you.
Nope. They were pronounced dead then and are most likely dead now.
Who are you to question the smartest men of the time?
You're not even
the smartest man in this room!
On 2024-08-13 13:05, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-13 10:33, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-13 09:18, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2024-08-13 08:31, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
Now answer my question.
Now we have moved on to an interrogation from the bulldog
who can never let go.
Now we have moved to the phase where you refuse to have a
discussion, and instead reply with memes.
Back on the topic of whether anyone has ever come back from
the dead:
Do you understand that doctors (science) currently have
incomplete information about what actually constitutes
whether or not a person is ACTUALLY dead?
Yes or no.
It's interesting how you frame your question in a sly way so you
will be right however I answer it. It would be more honest of
you to just state your case rather than attempt to walk me into
your trap.
My case is that someone who currently is declared dead by the
tests available to us today who "comes back to life" was never
dead in the first place.
Just like people who were declared dead because they had no pulse
were never actually dead back when THAT was the metric used to
declare death.
Those people were declared dead by the science (doctors) of the
time.
But we now KNOW they weren't... ...right?
Those doctors were wrong, because they didn't understand things as
well as we do now... ...right?
Using the standards of today to judge people from the past is
unfair.
I'm not judging PEOPLE. Well... ...except you.
Nope. They were pronounced dead then and are most likely dead now.
Now who's playing games.
Who are you to question the smartest men of the time?
I'm not questioning them. I'm noting there lack of sufficient information.
You're not even
the smartest man in this room!
I'm smarter than you...
...and this isn't a "room".
If nospam merely moved on to doing something else and is still alive itós still weird to have a stable pattern disrupted.
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrew <andrew@spam.net>
wrote:
Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's biggest apologists. >>Does anyone know why he just disappeared without even saying goodbye?
Arlen suggested his contract with Apple expired and he wasn’t going to defend the indefensible for free.
I just hope nothing happened to him health wise.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-08-04 19:46, They're all DEAD, LOL! wrote:Anyone who asserts “The only people lying were those who were pro clot shot.” is incapable of arguing in good faith and discredits themselves. I will not be dissuaded from getting my updated shot this fall, though I
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote:
Alan wrote:So your lymphocytes can do their own research against an antigen (spike >>>> protein) that is ephemeral and matches one of the main antigens (spike >>>> protein) of a virus that is much less ephemeral and has worse and longer >>>> lasting repercussions than the vaccine. Duh!
On 2024-08-02 17:16, They're all DEAD, LOL! wrote:
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
Funny how antivax kooks manage to inject their bullshit intobadgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrew
<andrew@spam.net>
wrote:
Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's >>>>>>>>>>>>> biggest apologists.
Does anyone know why he just disappeared without even saying >>>>>>>>>>>> goodbye?
Arlen suggested his contract with Apple expired and he wasn’t >>>>>>>>>>> going to
defend the indefensible for free.
I just hope nothing happened to him health wise.
There can be many reasons why, but given how regular he was and >>>>>>>>>> how abrupt
his disappearance, it can't be discounted sadly.
nospam and Lewis (g.kreme) are likely dead from the Covid shots >>>>>>>>> or the
virus itself (despite them both being proudly "vaxxed" and boosted). >>>>>>>>>
And good riddance.
almost any
topic. I’ve had every COVID shot, never got COVID, and I am still >>>>>>>> alive.
I had COVID before the shots came out. My immunity is FAR SUPERIOR >>>>>>> to yours, durable, and I suffered no long lasting effects. In fact, >>>>>>> I haven't been sick since.
Your degree is in... ...what?
Irrelevant. Universities only hand out degrees in Stupid. This has
been true for decades.
Go enjoy your preventable measles and polio you plague rat.
I was vaccinated against measles and polio with shots that actually >>>>>>> WORKED as claimed, unlike the COVID shots.
I hope you die of 'suddenly'.
Do you even know (without googling) what mRNA is?
What good could POSSIBLY come of hijacking the cells in your body to >>>>> produce a KNOWN TOXIC spike protein?
A vaccine hijacking your cells to produce spike protein which confers
immunity to SARS-CoV-2 is far preferable to the actual virus hijacking >>>> your
cells, especially when people were immunologically naive. Nowadays either >>>> the virus or the vaccine will update immunity in complex ways given
imprinting. I would prefer the vaccine.
The virus can stay confined to one area of the body, such as the lungs.
The spike proteins produced as a result of the shot do NOT stay confined >>> in such a manner.
No. The virus is everywhere, but happens to affect the lungs worse.
Your degree is in... ...what?
As I have never been sick from COVID, my immunity is superior to yours >>>> since you actually caught it. Immunity to COVID for most is fleeting
because the virus evolves so readily. Our B cells evolve too due to
mutation of DNA and selection of better adapted variants. Again I would >>>> rather this process happen in response to a vaccine than a pathogen.
Your immunity is NOT better than my natural immunity. For one, the spike >>> protein mutates frequently, thereby rendering the shots ineffective after >>> a few months. That's why YOU have to keep getting "boosters". MY immunity, >>> however, includes recognition of other parts of the virus, including, for >>> instance, the nucleocapsid protein, which changes not nearly as frequently. >>
might time it a little later. Worked well so far. Given I never suffered COVID that long COVID nightmare has not reared its ugly head for me.
Clot shots? Clot virus.
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20240318/covid-vaccines-reduce-risk-heart-failure-clots
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/vaccines-cut-risk-post-covid-heart-failure-blood-clots-least-6-months-data-suggest
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/should-you-be-worried-about-blood-clots-with-covid-19