• Re: iPhone 17 Air completely port-free

    From Alan@21:1/5 to Marion on Sat Mar 22 14:07:09 2025
    On 2025-03-21 14:49, Marion wrote:
    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 09:25:31 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :


    That's your bias.

    I agree the herd-animal religious beliefs spouted by Colour Sergeant Bourn and Your Name are classic for Apple trolls, sensible people know better.

    Apple's world market share is laughably puny compared to that of Android.

    Even so, while all companies are in it for the profit, nobody could say
    with a straight face that Apple gives the customers what they want.
    Apple removes functionality the customer wants, and then waits for the pain to get great enough that the customer has to find some way to buy it back.

    The actual reality is that the vast majority of consumer or professional
    users never upgrade their computers piecemeal. They want reliable
    hardware
    like a TV or washing machine that sits there doing what it does with no
    tinkering required.

    People plug sdcards into their devices all the time, Chris. And people
    plug headphones into their devices all the time also, Chris.
    People connect power to the USB port too.

    And of those, the only one you can't do on an iPhone is the SDCard.

    And I would be large that most users don't ever plug a card in.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Marion on Sun Mar 16 13:00:07 2025
    On 2025-03-16 12:27, Marion wrote:
    *Apple considered making the rumored iPhone 17 Air completely port-free, according to report* <https://www.engadget.com/mobile/smartphones/apple-considered-making- the-rumored-iphone-17-air-completely-port-free-according-to- report-165334942.html>

    Maybe it's Apple's way to give the finger to the EU for forcing Apple,
    for the first time in its history, of providing what the customer wants.

    It's just a rumor at this point, but given Apple's sordid history of
    putting the crappiest RAM,

    Assertion, not fact.

    the worst batteries,

    Assertion, not fact.

    the lack of industry
    standard hardware (such as the extremely handy portable memory slots and
    the industry standard aux jack and the proper charger in the box, etc.),

    Lots of smartphones don't have memory slots.

    Of phones made since 2015--a full decade--1371 have no memory slot:

    <https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?nYearMin=2015&sAvailabilities=1&idCardslot=3>

    Lots of smartphones don't have a 3.5mm stereo/mic jack; more than 400 in
    the same time period.

    it wouldn't surprise me. <https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmIuzI8bcAI7Wa3? format=jpg>

    Apple's basic strategy is to remove functionality so that the consumer
    feels so much pain that they strive to purchase back the removed items.

    It works. Herd animal iPhone owners line up outside the Apple store
    because they can't wait to ditch their old iPhones for the new ones!

    Wow.

    You're apparently illiterate in addition all your other failings.

    Do you not know what "considerED" means?

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 16 19:27:53 2025
    *Apple considered making the rumored iPhone 17 Air completely port-free, according to report*
    <https://www.engadget.com/mobile/smartphones/apple-considered-making-the-rumored-iphone-17-air-completely-port-free-according-to-report-165334942.html>

    Maybe it's Apple's way to give the finger to the EU for forcing Apple,
    for the first time in its history, of providing what the customer wants.

    It's just a rumor at this point, but given Apple's sordid history of
    putting the crappiest RAM, the worst batteries, the lack of industry
    standard hardware (such as the extremely handy portable memory slots and
    the industry standard aux jack and the proper charger in the box, etc.), it wouldn't surprise me. <https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmIuzI8bcAI7Wa3?format=jpg>

    Apple's basic strategy is to remove functionality so that the consumer
    feels so much pain that they strive to purchase back the removed items.

    It works. Herd animal iPhone owners line up outside the Apple store
    because they can't wait to ditch their old iPhones for the new ones!
    --
    Something Is Rotten in the State of Cupertino - by John Gruber
    <https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/something_is_rotten_in_the_state_of_cupertino>

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sun Mar 16 21:00:34 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 20:13:43 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    It works. Herd animal iPhone owners line up outside the Apple store
    because they can't wait to ditch their old iPhones for the new ones!

    Rather than considering something gimmicky like that...

    Personally, I think it's Apple's way to give the finger to the EU by
    designing a phone that relies *even more!* on Apple's servers to work.

    I wish Apple would
    consider redesigning the horrendous lump of the camera lenses sticking out
    of the body so much. At the very least spread them across the back symmetrically so the phone doesn't wobble side to side when set down.

    That's interesting, in that I never had a problem with a camera lump.
    Not on my iPads, my iPhones, my Android, my tablets, etc.

    Any unflattering lump is basically flattened out by the case, isn't it?

    Surely that's something simple to do.

    Apple doesn't do simple. Apple's strategy is to remove functionality so
    that you have to feel the pain enough that you're forced to buy it back.

    If Apple removes all ports, it simply proves my long-standing well-founded assertion that Apple's strategy is to keep the iPhone as a dumb terminal.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sun Mar 16 13:23:29 2025
    On 2025-03-16 13:13, badgolferman wrote:
    Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
    *Apple considered making the rumored iPhone 17 Air completely port-free, >> according to report*
    <https://www.engadget.com/mobile/smartphones/apple-considered-making-the-rumored-iphone-17-air-completely-port-free-according-to-report-165334942.html>

    Maybe it's Apple's way to give the finger to the EU for forcing Apple,
    for the first time in its history, of providing what the customer wants.

    It's just a rumor at this point, but given Apple's sordid history of
    putting the crappiest RAM, the worst batteries, the lack of industry
    standard hardware (such as the extremely handy portable memory slots and
    the industry standard aux jack and the proper charger in the box, etc.), it >> wouldn't surprise me. <https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmIuzI8bcAI7Wa3?format=jpg>

    Apple's basic strategy is to remove functionality so that the consumer
    feels so much pain that they strive to purchase back the removed items.

    It works. Herd animal iPhone owners line up outside the Apple store
    because they can't wait to ditch their old iPhones for the new ones!

    Rather than considering something gimmicky like that, I wish Apple would consider redesigning the horrendous lump of the camera lenses sticking out
    of the body so much. At the very least spread them across the back symmetrically so the phone doesn’t wobble side to side when set down. Surely that’s something simple to do.


    They're set close together for a reason, doofus.

    Pretty much EVERY smartphone with multiple cameras groups them together.

    Probably because not wobbling when set down isn't really a user priority.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Marion on Sun Mar 16 22:33:33 2025
    On 2025-03-16 14:00, Marion wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 20:13:43 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    It works. Herd animal iPhone owners line up outside the Apple store
    because they can't wait to ditch their old iPhones for the new ones!

    Rather than considering something gimmicky like that...

    Personally, I think it's Apple's way to give the finger to the EU by designing a phone that relies *even more!* on Apple's servers to work.

    This is utter nonsense.

    iPhones work fine without any connection to Apple's servers.

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  • From Colour Sergeant Bourne@21:1/5 to Marion on Thu Mar 20 13:59:08 2025
    On 3/16/25 3:27 PM, Marion wrote:
    *Apple considered making the rumored iPhone 17 Air completely port-free, according to report*


    Maybe it's Apple's way to give the finger to the EU for forcing Apple,
    for the first time in its history, of providing what the customer wants.



    <SNIP>

    Just wondering, if Apple doesn't give customers what they want-- why is
    the iPhone the best selling cellular device in the world?

    See what I'm getting at?

    --
    Lightweight; cheap; strong. Pick two.

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to Colour Sergeant Bourne on Fri Mar 21 02:26:13 2025
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 13:59:08 -0400, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote :


    Just wondering, if Apple doesn't give customers what they want-- why is
    the iPhone the best selling cellular device in the world?

    See what I'm getting at?

    What's interesting is that herd animals think the way you think.

    They sold Virginia Slims to women as "liberating them", where herd animals
    only follow trends & don't actually have any idea of what they're buying.

    See what I'm getting at?

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Colour Sergeant Bourne on Fri Mar 21 16:04:44 2025
    On 2025-03-20 17:59:08 +0000, Colour Sergeant Bourne said:
    On 3/16/25 3:27 PM, Marion wrote:

    *Apple considered making the rumored iPhone 17 Air completely
    port-free, according to report*


    Maybe it's Apple's way to give the finger to the EU for forcing Apple,
    for the first time in its history, of providing what the customer wants.

    <SNIP>

    Just wondering, if Apple doesn't give customers what they want-- why is
    the iPhone the best selling cellular device in the world?

    See what I'm getting at?

    Technically Apple does not give customers what they want*, but rather
    the customers do want what Apple gives them. ;-)



    * For example, very few customers actually wanted Mac computers with
    everything sealed up and soldered down, so making them completely non-upgradable ... but the reality is that very few customers actually
    care about that anyway.

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to Your Name on Fri Mar 21 05:47:26 2025
    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 16:04:44 +1300, Your Name wrote :


    Just wondering, if Apple doesn't give customers what they want-- why is
    the iPhone the best selling cellular device in the world?

    See what I'm getting at?

    Technically Apple does not give customers what they want*, but rather
    the customers do want what Apple gives them. ;-)

    I wonder if any of you Apple trolls realizes that you "think" it's the
    "best selling cellular device in the world", when its market share is
    actually ridiculously puny.

    You Apple trolls are such herd animals, that you Apple's laughably
    miniscule market share is the "best in the world".

    Who is *that* incredibly stupid (but you Apple trolls).

    See what I'm getting at?

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to Chris on Fri Mar 21 21:49:33 2025
    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 09:25:31 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :


    That's your bias.

    I agree the herd-animal religious beliefs spouted by Colour Sergeant Bourn
    and Your Name are classic for Apple trolls, sensible people know better.

    Apple's world market share is laughably puny compared to that of Android.

    Even so, while all companies are in it for the profit, nobody could say
    with a straight face that Apple gives the customers what they want.

    Apple removes functionality the customer wants, and then waits for the pain
    to get great enough that the customer has to find some way to buy it back.

    The actual reality is that the vast majority of consumer or professional users never upgrade their computers piecemeal. They want reliable hardware like a TV or washing machine that sits there doing what it does with no tinkering required.

    People plug sdcards into their devices all the time, Chris.
    And people plug headphones into their devices all the time also, Chris.
    People connect power to the USB port too.

    It's only Apple devices where Apple's strategy is to limit your choices.

    Apple delivers that in spades.

    Are you sure about that? Or is that only herd-animal propaganda you spew?
    <https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>

    Why is the iPhone the most insecure phone, bar none, in smartphone history?
    <https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-49/Apple.html>

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