• Re: Giant Lithium Batt Storage Facility Burns - AGAIN

    From ollie@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 21 18:09:33 2025
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    On 20 Feb 2025, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> posted some news:9qucna52UJlWWir6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/california-lithium-battery-facility-catc hes-fire-again-residents-told-to-close-windows


    Another fire broke out at one of the world’s largest lithium-ion
    battery storage facilities in California.

    Residents living near the Vistra Moss Landing Power Plant and
    Energy Storage Facility were told Tuesday night to close their
    windows and doors after “light smoke and fire” were seen at
    the facility, an emergency alert from county officials said.

    “Public Safety Agencies are in Unified Command due to light
    smoke and fire at the Vistra Battery Facility in Moss Landing.
    Unified Command continues to monitor the situation and
    community air particulate matter and metals monitoring
    are ongoing,”

    . . .

    These batteries are NOT safe. The little ones are
    scary enough, but big EV+ sized ones are a disaster.

    I laugh every time I see someone toss their flaming iphone.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to ollie on Fri Feb 21 18:46:19 2025
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    On 2/21/25 12:09 PM, ollie wrote:
    On 20 Feb 2025, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> posted some news:9qucna52UJlWWir6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/california-lithium-battery-facility-catc
    hes-fire-again-residents-told-to-close-windows


    Another fire broke out at one of the world’s largest lithium-ion
    battery storage facilities in California.

    Residents living near the Vistra Moss Landing Power Plant and
    Energy Storage Facility were told Tuesday night to close their
    windows and doors after “light smoke and fire” were seen at
    the facility, an emergency alert from county officials said.

    “Public Safety Agencies are in Unified Command due to light
    smoke and fire at the Vistra Battery Facility in Moss Landing.
    Unified Command continues to monitor the situation and
    community air particulate matter and metals monitoring
    are ongoing,”

    . . .

    These batteries are NOT safe. The little ones are
    scary enough, but big EV+ sized ones are a disaster.

    I laugh every time I see someone toss their flaming iphone.

    Never saw that (yet) - but I DID have a LiPo batt that
    had been sitting quietly on a table for like six+ months
    suddenly go up in flames when I just barely brushed
    the damned thing. It had barely been used, not like it
    was worn out or abused or anything.

    Millions of little hand-grenades spread all over the
    country, just WAITING .....

    They keep PROMISING new tech - sodium or even aluminum
    systems instead, solid-solute electrolytes, explosion
    reducing membranes/coatings - but they never make it off
    the lab bench. Can't be scaled up for affordable industrial
    production. NOT good.

    Just because people WANT something does not mean physics
    and chemistry can ACTUALLY deliver. LiPo may really be
    about as good as it gets for 'small devices'.

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  • From P. Coonan@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 22 02:37:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    On 21 Feb 2025, ollie <none@telus.com> posted some news:507a04605a600af0a3c06dbbe37186d3@dizum.com:

    On 20 Feb 2025, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> posted some news:9qucna52UJlWWir6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/california-lithium-battery-facility-catc
    hes-fire-again-residents-told-to-close-windows


    Another fire broke out at one of the world’s largest lithium-ion
    battery storage facilities in California.

    Residents living near the Vistra Moss Landing Power Plant and
    Energy Storage Facility were told Tuesday night to close their
    windows and doors after “light smoke and fire” were seen at
    the facility, an emergency alert from county officials said.

    “Public Safety Agencies are in Unified Command due to light
    smoke and fire at the Vistra Battery Facility in Moss Landing.
    Unified Command continues to monitor the situation and
    community air particulate matter and metals monitoring
    are ongoing,”

    . . .

    These batteries are NOT safe. The little ones are
    scary enough, but big EV+ sized ones are a disaster.

    I laugh every time I see someone toss their flaming iphone.

    You don't want to be following a smoking Prius.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 21 20:37:56 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.misc

    c186282 wrote:
    I laugh every time I see someone toss their flaming iphone.

      Never saw that (yet) - but I DID have a LiPo batt that
      had been sitting quietly on a table for like six+ months
      suddenly go up in flames when I just barely brushed
      the damned thing. It had barely been used, not like it
      was worn out or abused or anything.

      Millions of little hand-grenades spread all over the
      country, just WAITING .....

      They keep PROMISING new tech - sodium or even aluminum
      systems instead, solid-solute electrolytes, explosion
      reducing membranes/coatings - but they never make it off
      the lab bench. Can't be scaled up for affordable industrial
      production. NOT good.

      Just because people WANT something does not mean physics
      and chemistry can ACTUALLY deliver. LiPo may really be
      about as good as it gets for 'small devices'.

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevron_Richmond_Refinery#1989_explosion_and_fire>

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