• Re: UK demands back door into encrypted icloud

    From sticks@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 12 18:38:26 2025
    On 2/7/2025 11:30 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    The US are in a constitutional crisis.

    Ha! Sounds like she's talking to George

    <https://rumble.com/v6k2u4y-karoline-leavitt-addresses-the-latest-legacy-media-buzzwords-constitutional.html?>

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to sticks on Wed Feb 12 18:41:01 2025
    On 2/12/2025 6:38 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 11:30 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    The US are in a constitutional crisis.

    Ha!  Sounds like she's talking to George

    <https://rumble.com/v6k2u4y-karoline-leavitt-addresses-the-latest- legacy-media-buzzwords-constitutional.html?>

    He would fit right in with the left in America

    <https://rumble.com/v6jzfem-montage-democratmedia-mockingbirds-received-their-talking-point-today-const.html?>

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Feb 7 21:56:33 2025
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, alt.privacy

    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 21:03:26 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    the United Kingdom is demanding that
    Apple create an encryption backdoor

    In general, these types of articles are brazen propaganda, but I found out something interesting when I searched the same keywords for Google.
    <https://www.google.com/search?q=the+United+Kingdom+is+demanding+that+Google+create+an+encryption+backdoor+to+give+the+government+access+to+end-to-end+encrypted+data>

    It's only Apple that pops up in that search.
    Not Google.

    Why not?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Feb 7 13:17:26 2025
    On 2025-02-07 13:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The Washington Post reported that the United Kingdom is demanding that
    Apple create an encryption backdoor to give the government access to end-to-end encrypted data in iCloud. Encryption is one of the best ways we have to reclaim our privacy and security in a digital world filled with cyberattacks and security breaches, and there’s no way to weaken it in order to only provide access to the “good guys.” We call on Apple to resist
    this attempt to undermine the right to private spaces and communications.

    As reported, the British government’s undisclosed order was issued last month, and requires the capability to view all encrypted material in
    iCloud. The core target is Apple’s Advanced Data Protection, which is an optional feature that turns on end-to-end encryption for backups and other data stored in iCloud, making it so that even Apple cannot access that information. For a long time, iCloud backups were a loophole for law enforcement to gain access to data otherwise not available to them on
    iPhones with device encryption enabled. That loophole still exists for
    anyone who doesn’t opt in to using Advanced Data Protection. If Apple does comply, users should consider disabling iCloud backups entirely. Perhaps
    most concerning, the U.K. is apparently seeking a backdoor into users’ data regardless of where they are or what citizenship they have.

    More:

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/02/uks-demands-apple-break-encryption-emergency-us-all

    Yes.

    This has been discussed many, many times.

    There is no way that anyone has found to create a backdoor to encrypted
    data that can only be used by the "good guys".

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Feb 7 23:10:49 2025
    On 07.02.25 22:17, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-02-07 13:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The Washington Post reported that the United Kingdom is demanding that
    Apple create an encryption backdoor to give the government access to
    end-to-end encrypted data in iCloud.

    (snip)


    More:

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/02/uks-demands-apple-break-encryption-emergency-us-all

    Yes.

    This has been discussed many, many times.

    There is no way that anyone has found to create a backdoor to encrypted
    data that can only be used by the "good guys".

    That is exactly the reason why I use the E2E-encryption Apple offers for iCloud-data. I'm the only person/party that owns the private key.
    Perhaps the mess in Trumpistan triggers a rethinking of the current
    strategy.

    BTW: Neither the Brits nor the Trump-regime are the "good guys".

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 7 16:30:03 2025
    On 2/7/2025 4:10 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 07.02.25 22:17, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-02-07 13:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The Washington Post reported that the United Kingdom is demanding that
    Apple create an encryption backdoor to give the government access to
    end-to-end encrypted data in iCloud.

    (snip)


    More:

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/02/uks-demands-apple-break-encryption-emergency-us-all

    Yes.

    This has been discussed many, many times.

    There is no way that anyone has found to create a backdoor to encrypted
    data that can only be used by the "good guys".

    That is exactly the reason why I use the E2E-encryption Apple offers for iCloud-data. I'm the only person/party that owns the private key.
    Perhaps the mess in Trumpistan triggers a rethinking of the current
    strategy.

    BTW: Neither the Brits nor the Trump-regime are the "good guys".

    You got it wrong on the US GOP. The dems are the ones who think you
    have no personal rights. But that's right....you're a marxist.
    Common sense is making a comeback...I'm sure that will fuck you all up.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Marion on Fri Feb 7 16:56:38 2025
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, alt.privacy

    On 2025-02-07 13:56, Marion wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 21:03:26 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    the United Kingdom is demanding that
    Apple create an encryption backdoor

    In general, these types of articles are brazen propaganda, but I found out something interesting when I searched the same keywords for Google. <https://www.google.com/search? q=the+United+Kingdom+is+demanding+that+Google+create+an+encryption+backdoor+to+give+the+government+access+to+end-to-end+encrypted+data>

    It's only Apple that pops up in that search.
    Not Google.

    Why not?

    'Google would be a bigger target for U.K. officials, because it has made
    the backups for Android phones encrypted by default since 2018. Google spokesman Ed Fernandez declined to say whether any government had sought
    a back door, but implied none have been implemented.'

    That is from the very first hit.

    Shall I go on?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 7 16:49:41 2025
    On 2025-02-07 14:10, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 07.02.25 22:17, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-02-07 13:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The Washington Post reported that the United Kingdom is demanding that
    Apple create an encryption backdoor to give the government access to
    end-to-end encrypted data in iCloud.

    (snip)


    More:

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/02/uks-demands-apple-break-encryption-emergency-us-all

    Yes.

    This has been discussed many, many times.

    There is no way that anyone has found to create a backdoor to encrypted
    data that can only be used by the "good guys".

    That is exactly the reason why I use the E2E-encryption Apple offers for iCloud-data. I'm the only person/party that owns the private key.
    Perhaps the mess in Trumpistan triggers a rethinking of the current
    strategy.

    BTW: Neither the Brits nor the Trump-regime are the "good guys".


    Exactly.

    I'm sorry to say, but I don't think ANY government can be classified
    among the good guys.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Feb 7 16:50:28 2025
    On 2025-02-07 14:30, sticks wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 4:10 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 07.02.25 22:17, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-02-07 13:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The Washington Post reported that the United Kingdom is demanding that >>>> Apple create an encryption backdoor to give the government access to
    end-to-end encrypted data in iCloud.

    (snip)


    More:

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/02/uks-demands-apple-break-
    encryption-emergency-us-all

    Yes.

    This has been discussed many, many times.

    There is no way that anyone has found to create a backdoor to encrypted
    data that can only be used by the "good guys".

    That is exactly the reason why I use the E2E-encryption Apple offers for
    iCloud-data. I'm the only person/party that owns the private key.
    Perhaps the mess in Trumpistan triggers a rethinking of the current
    strategy.

    BTW: Neither the Brits nor the Trump-regime are the "good guys".

    You got it wrong on the US GOP.  The dems are the ones who think you
    have no personal rights.  But that's right....you're a marxist.
    Common sense is making a comeback...I'm sure that will fuck you all up.


    Tell us again who is asking, nay DEMANDING, access to individuals
    private data?

    It's Musk's DOGE minions.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Feb 7 20:15:05 2025
    On 2/7/2025 6:50 PM, Alan wrote:

    Tell us again who is asking, nay DEMANDING, access to individuals
    private data?

    It's Musk's DOGE minions.

    It's going too be fun watching the left twist themselves into knots as
    the corruption gets into the daylight.


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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Feb 7 18:22:00 2025
    On 2025-02-07 18:15, sticks wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 6:50 PM, Alan wrote:

    Tell us again who is asking, nay DEMANDING, access to individuals
    private data?

    It's Musk's DOGE minions.

    It's going too be fun watching the left twist themselves into knots as
    the corruption gets into the daylight.



    What "corruption"?

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  • From Chris in Makati@21:1/5 to REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com on Sat Feb 8 10:52:25 2025
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 21:03:26 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    The Washington Post reported that the United Kingdom is demanding that
    Apple create an encryption backdoor to give the government access to >end-to-end encrypted data in iCloud. Encryption is one of the best ways we >have to reclaim our privacy and security in a digital world filled with >cyberattacks and security breaches, and thereÆs no way to weaken it in
    order to only provide access to the ôgood guys.ö We call on Apple to resist >this attempt to undermine the right to private spaces and communications.

    As reported, the British governmentÆs undisclosed order was issued last >month, and requires the capability to view all encrypted material in
    iCloud. The core target is AppleÆs Advanced Data Protection, which is an >optional feature that turns on end-to-end encryption for backups and other >data stored in iCloud, making it so that even Apple cannot access that >information. For a long time, iCloud backups were a loophole for law >enforcement to gain access to data otherwise not available to them on
    iPhones with device encryption enabled. That loophole still exists for
    anyone who doesnÆt opt in to using Advanced Data Protection. If Apple does >comply, users should consider disabling iCloud backups entirely. Perhaps
    most concerning, the U.K. is apparently seeking a backdoor into usersÆ data >regardless of where they are or what citizenship they have.

    More:

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/02/uks-demands-apple-break-encryption-emergency-us-all

    Let them have access to the data they want.

    It's encrypted, so they can play around as long as they want trying to de-encrypt it.

    Chris

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to sticks on Sat Feb 8 06:30:23 2025
    On 08.02.25 03:15, sticks wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 6:50 PM, Alan wrote:

    Tell us again who is asking, nay DEMANDING, access to individuals
    private data?

    It's Musk's DOGE minions.

    It's going too be fun watching the left twist themselves into knots as
    the corruption gets into the daylight.

    The US are in a constitutional crisis. No one has any rights anymore
    except Trump. This little "Roi-Soleil" shows that the US is out of
    control and has the most dangerous regime on the planet.


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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sat Feb 15 17:56:32 2025
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 21:03:26 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

    the United Kingdom is demanding that Apple create an encryption backdoor

    With the EU continually making ridiculous new rules, the stupid
    tax-grab laws in various countries, and now the UK's idiotic demands,
    Apple should just drop all sales in Europe entirely and say "Screw
    you!". All the other big companies like Sony would also copy-cat Apple
    as usual, and exit Europe too. Then these morons in government would
    soon come crawling back begging for forgiveness. :-\

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