• White House: Our Attempts at Keeping Iran from Getting Nukes Through Di

    From John Smyth@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 14 20:00:17 2024
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    This is what happens when a weak President, Joe Biden, is running the
    country.

    'White House: Our Attempts at Keeping Iran from Getting Nukes Through
    Diplomacy ‘Didn’t Work’'

    <https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/12/14/white-house-our-attempts-at-keeping-iran-from-getting-nukes-through-diplomacy-didnt-work/>

    'On Friday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “The Story,” White House National Security Communications Adviser John Kirby stated that
    Iran will not be allowed to get a nuclear weapons capability, and “We
    had tried to do this through diplomacy. Obviously, that didn’t work,
    because the Iranians were not willing to negotiate in good faith.”

    Kirby said, “President Biden has made it very clear, we will not, will
    not allow Iran to achieve a nuclear weapons capability, and we will not
    take any option off the table to prevent that outcome. I’m not going to speculate here today and tell you what will happen or will not happen
    over the next 40-some-odd days, but the President has been
    crystal-clear, they will not be allowed to achieve that outcome, that
    kind of capability. And we want to make sure, on the national security
    team, that he has all the options available to him to prevent that sort
    of outcome.”

    Host Martha MacCallum then asked, “So, are you saying President Biden
    would also consider airstrikes on Iranian nuclear facilities before his
    term is up?”

    Kirby answered, “President Biden has made clear that Iran will not have
    that capability. We had tried to do this through diplomacy. Obviously,
    that didn’t work, because the Iranians were not willing to negotiate in
    good faith. All other options remain available to the President. But,
    again, I won’t get ahead of his decisionmaking.'

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to John Smyth on Sat Dec 14 17:33:29 2024
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    John Smyth wrote:
    This is what happens when a weak President, Joe Biden, is running the country.

    'White House: Our Attempts at Keeping Iran from Getting Nukes Through Diplomacy ‘Didn’t Work’'

    Biden cancelled the inspections?

    When they were cancelled, the international sanctions were
    continued. The sanctions have only continued partially because of
    Biden's bullying. How long will Don Fatso keep what is left?

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to John Smyth on Sun Dec 15 01:28:22 2024
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    On 2024-12-15, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
    This is what happens when a weak President, Joe Biden, is running the country.

    'White House: Our Attempts at Keeping Iran from Getting Nukes Through Diplomacy ‘Didn’t Work’'

    <https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/12/14/white-house-our-attempts-at-keeping-iran-from-getting-nukes-through-diplomacy-didnt-work/>

    'On Friday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “The Story,” White House National Security Communications Adviser John Kirby stated that
    Iran will not be allowed to get a nuclear weapons capability, and “We
    had tried to do this through diplomacy. Obviously, that didn’t work, because the Iranians were not willing to negotiate in good faith.”

    Kirby said, “President Biden has made it very clear, we will not, will
    not allow Iran to achieve a nuclear weapons capability, and we will not
    take any option off the table to prevent that outcome. I’m not going to speculate here today and tell you what will happen or will not happen
    over the next 40-some-odd days, but the President has been
    crystal-clear, they will not be allowed to achieve that outcome, that
    kind of capability. And we want to make sure, on the national security
    team, that he has all the options available to him to prevent that sort
    of outcome.”

    Host Martha MacCallum then asked, “So, are you saying President Biden
    would also consider airstrikes on Iranian nuclear facilities before his
    term is up?”

    Kirby answered, “President Biden has made clear that Iran will not have that capability. We had tried to do this through diplomacy. Obviously,
    that didn’t work, because the Iranians were not willing to negotiate in good faith. All other options remain available to the President. But,
    again, I won’t get ahead of his decisionmaking.'



    Where “diplomacy” = enriching Iran to the tune over $100 billion through sanctions relief,
    and kissing mullah posterior in every which way. Basically The Obama Doctrine, where helping Iran to become a nuclear power was the unstated goal.

    Joe Biden and Barack Obama as well are modern day Chamberlains.
    They are both weak.
    I've said it a zillion times that the only way to deal with these crazies in the Middle East
    is strength through power.
    It's all they understand.

    Appeasement never works.



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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to John Smyth on Sun Dec 15 03:07:25 2024
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    John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote in news:sdaslj169vo0830320q24tbvd2jdstln7t@4ax.com:

    This is what happens when a weak President, Joe Biden, is running the country.


    This is what happens when the president
    scraps the nuclear supervision agreement
    that was working.

    Why did Trump do that?





    State Department Certifies Iran's Compliance
    With Nuclear Deal
    July 17, 2017

    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson recertified
    Iran's compliance with the 2015 nuclear deal
    late Monday, but senior administration
    officials emphasized that Tehran is a dangerous
    threat to both U.S. interests and Middle East
    stability.

    Among other things, it requires that Tehran
    reduce its stockpile of enriched uranium by
    98 percent, remove two-thirds of its
    centrifuges and remove the core of its heavy
    water reactor.

    Under U.S. law, the State Department is required
    to recertify to Congress Iran's compliance with
    the nuclear deal every 90 days. Despite President
    Trump's harsh criticism of the agreement forged
    under his predecessor, it is the second such
    certification since he took office.
    https://tinyurl.com/y49t9qud
    ..

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to pothead on Sun Dec 15 03:11:25 2024
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    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vjlbbm$80ma$1@dont-email.me:


    I've said it a zillion times that the only way to deal with these
    crazies in the Middle East is strength through power.


    Power, like:

    Trump abandoning the fight against
    ISIS in Syria.

    Trump abandoning the government we
    created in Iraq.

    Trump surrendering to the Taliban
    without a fight.


    Make America Great Again - by retreating
    from every conflict...............

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  • From CAO 134@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 15 08:37:22 2024
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    On 14 Dec 2024, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> posted some news:XnsB248D5DED80E2629555@185.151.15.190:

    John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote in news:sdaslj169vo0830320q24tbvd2jdstln7t@4ax.com:

    This is what happens when a weak President, Joe Biden, is running the
    country.


    This is what happens when the president
    scraps the nuclear supervision agreement
    that was working.

    Why did Trump do that?

    It was written by some incompetent pro-LGBTIA+ activist pansies and it
    wasn't working.

    "The controversial agreement, which came into force in July 2015..." When Obama was screwing up the country.

    "Senior administration officials, speaking on background, said the White
    House remains concerned about the "very significant flaws" in the deal and criticized the Obama administration for allowing the nuclear issue to
    become "the tail that wags the Iran policy dog.""

    This is the plan you're defending, probably because Biden had it removed
    from the Whitehouse Archives.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20150907191229/http://www.state.gov/documents/ organization/245317.pdf

    Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action
    Vienna, 14 July 2015

    PREFACE

    Iran reaffirms that under no circumstances will Iran ever seek, develop
    or acquire any nuclear weapons.

    Next,

    Iran's Nuclear Timetable: The Weapon Potential
    September 18, 2024

    https://www.iranwatch.org/our-publications/articles-reports/irans-nuclear- timetable-weapon-potential

    Next

    https://nationalsecurity.gmu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Elements-of- Its-Own-Demise.pdf

    ELEMENTS OF ITS OWN DEMISE: Key Flaws In The Obama Administration's
    Domestic Approach To The IRan Nuclear Agreement.

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  • From CAO 134@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 15 14:48:41 2024
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    On 14 Dec 2024, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> posted some news:XnsB248D68C9DBA7629555@185.151.15.190:

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vjlbbm$80ma$1@dont-email.me:


    I've said it a zillion times that the only way to deal with these
    crazies in the Middle East is strength through power.


    Power, like:

    Trump abandoning the fight against
    ISIS in Syria.

    Trump

    Lies deleted.

    https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/issues/national-security-defense/

    President Trump rebuilt the United States military after eight years of
    decline and neglect under the previous Administration. He revitalized our defense industrial base, secured the largest pay raise for our troops in a decade, and created the sixth branch of our Armed Forces: the United
    States Space Force. President Trump also became the first American leader
    since Ronald Reagan not to start a war.

    On President TrumpÆs watch, the worldÆs most notorious terrorists were
    brought to justice; the ISIS territorial caliphate was completely
    destroyed; and violent, corrupt regimes were held accountable through a
    mix of sanctions and targeted military action.

    Biden screwed up Afghanistan. Not in dispute.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to cao134@x.uk on Sun Dec 15 14:57:11 2024
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    CAO 134 <cao134@x.uk> wrote in
    news:14767310f19c27352a7ee57fa46ccf99@dizum.com:

    On 14 Dec 2024, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> posted some news:XnsB248D5DED80E2629555@185.151.15.190:

    John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:sdaslj169vo0830320q24tbvd2jdstln7t@4ax.com:

    This is what happens when a weak President, Joe Biden, is running
    the country.


    This is what happens when the president
    scraps the nuclear supervision agreement
    that was working.

    Why did Trump do that?

    It was written by some incompetent pro-LGBTIA+ activist pansies


    Huh?



    and it
    wasn't working.


    Trump's own Sec of State says it was.



    "The controversial agreement, which came into force in July 2015..."
    When Obama was screwing up the country.

    "Senior administration officials, speaking on background, said the
    White House remains concerned about the "very significant flaws" in
    the deal and criticized the Obama administration for allowing the
    nuclear issue to become "the tail that wags the Iran policy dog.""


    Every treaty has "flaws", that is no
    reason to scrap them.

    But Trump thinks no supervision of
    Iran is better than some supervision of
    Iran.

    After all, he knows everything better
    than anyone.............

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to cao134@x.uk on Sun Dec 15 15:10:16 2024
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    CAO 134 <cao134@x.uk> wrote in
    news:b7bc2b2aa6da8bd1057bf53f0a4cf854@dizum.com:

    On 14 Dec 2024, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> posted some news:XnsB248D68C9DBA7629555@185.151.15.190:

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vjlbbm$80ma$1@dont-email.me:


    I've said it a zillion times that the only way to deal with these
    crazies in the Middle East is strength through power.


    Power, like:

    Trump abandoning the fight against
    ISIS in Syria.

    Trump

    Lies deleted.

    https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/issues/national-security-defense/

    President Trump rebuilt the United States military after eight years
    of decline and neglect under the previous Administration. He
    revitalized our defense industrial base, secured the largest pay raise
    for our troops in a decade, and created the sixth branch of our Armed
    Forces: the United States Space Force. President Trump also became the
    first American leader since Ronald Reagan not to start a war.


    Quoting Trump praising Trump is
    beside the point.

    Trump abandoned the fight in Syria,
    he abandoned the fight in Afghanistan, he
    abandoned the fight in Sudan, he abandoned
    the fight in Iraq. His entire foreign
    policy is one of Retreat And Surrender.

    He even has plans to abandon S Korea.
    https://tinyurl.com/2rcderhh

    How does that "Make America Great", again?

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Dec 15 11:02:00 2024
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    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    CAO 134 <cao134@x.uk> wrote in news:b7bc2b2aa6da8bd1057bf53f0a4cf854@dizum.com:

    On 14 Dec 2024, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> posted some
    news:XnsB248D68C9DBA7629555@185.151.15.190:

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vjlbbm$80ma$1@dont-email.me:


    I've said it a zillion times that the only way to deal with these
    crazies in the Middle East is strength through power.

    Power, like:

    Trump abandoning the fight against
    ISIS in Syria.

    Trump

    Lies deleted.

    https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/issues/national-security-defense/

    President Trump rebuilt the United States military after eight years
    of decline and neglect under the previous Administration. He
    revitalized our defense industrial base, secured the largest pay raise
    for our troops in a decade, and created the sixth branch of our Armed
    Forces: the United States Space Force. President Trump also became the
    first American leader since Ronald Reagan not to start a war.

    Quoting Trump praising Trump is
    beside the point.

    Trump abandoned the fight in Syria,
    he abandoned the fight in Afghanistan, he
    abandoned the fight in Sudan, he abandoned
    the fight in Iraq. His entire foreign
    policy is one of Retreat And Surrender.

    He even has plans to abandon S Korea.
    https://tinyurl.com/2rcderhh

    How does that "Make America Great", again?

    Trump's angling to make Putin top dog.

    --
    To err is human, to forgive, beyond the scope of the Operating System.

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Sun Dec 15 11:04:46 2024
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    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    CAO 134 <cao134@x.uk> wrote in
    news:b7bc2b2aa6da8bd1057bf53f0a4cf854@dizum.com:

    On 14 Dec 2024, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> posted some
    news:XnsB248D68C9DBA7629555@185.151.15.190:

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vjlbbm$80ma$1@dont-email.me:


    I've said it a zillion times that the only way to deal with these
    crazies in the Middle East is strength through power.

    Power, like:

    Trump abandoning the fight against
    ISIS in Syria.

    Trump

    Lies deleted.

    https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/issues/national-security-defense/

    President Trump rebuilt the United States military after eight years
    of decline and neglect under the previous Administration. He
    revitalized our defense industrial base, secured the largest pay raise
    for our troops in a decade, and created the sixth branch of our Armed
    Forces: the United States Space Force. President Trump also became the
    first American leader since Ronald Reagan not to start a war.

    Quoting Trump praising Trump is
    beside the point.

    Trump abandoned the fight in Syria,
    he abandoned the fight in Afghanistan, he
    abandoned the fight in Sudan, he abandoned
    the fight in Iraq. His entire foreign
    policy is one of Retreat And Surrender.

    He even has plans to abandon S Korea.
    https://tinyurl.com/2rcderhh

    How does that "Make America Great", again?

    Trump's angling to make Putin top dog.


    Trump has made you a whining little bitch.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 15 09:49:38 2024
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    In article <vjmuhp$krvl$1@dont-email.me>, OFeem1987@teleworm.us says...

    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    CAO 134 <cao134@x.uk> wrote in news:b7bc2b2aa6da8bd1057bf53f0a4cf854@dizum.com:

    On 14 Dec 2024, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> posted some
    news:XnsB248D68C9DBA7629555@185.151.15.190:

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vjlbbm$80ma$1@dont-email.me:


    I've said it a zillion times that the only way to deal with these
    crazies in the Middle East is strength through power.

    Power, like:

    Trump abandoning the fight against
    ISIS in Syria.

    Trump

    Lies deleted.

    https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/issues/national-security-defense/

    President Trump rebuilt the United States military after eight years
    of decline and neglect under the previous Administration. He
    revitalized our defense industrial base, secured the largest pay raise
    for our troops in a decade, and created the sixth branch of our Armed
    Forces: the United States Space Force. President Trump also became the
    first American leader since Ronald Reagan not to start a war.

    Quoting Trump praising Trump is
    beside the point.

    Trump abandoned the fight in Syria,
    he abandoned the fight in Afghanistan, he
    abandoned the fight in Sudan, he abandoned
    the fight in Iraq. His entire foreign
    policy is one of Retreat And Surrender.

    He even has plans to abandon S Korea.
    https://tinyurl.com/2rcderhh

    How does that "Make America Great", again?

    Trump's angling to make Putin top dog.

    Putin supported Harris.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Ted on Sun Dec 15 12:34:51 2024
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    Ted wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    Trump's angling to make Putin top dog.

    Trump has made you a whining little bitch.

    Awwwww, the ankle biter nips.

    --
    I can't stand squealers; hit that guy.
    -- Albert Anastasia

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