• Jan 6th vs No Kings. 6 Major Differences Why the No Kings Riots Are FAR

    From Dietrich Von GassenHousen@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 16 11:40:45 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, talk.politics.guns

    '6 Reasons the ‘No Kings’ Riots Are Far Worse Than January 6 — But the Media Still Calls Them ‘Mostly Peaceful’'

    <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/06/6-reasons-no-kings-riots-are-far-worse/>

    'Late last week, we came across a commentary video by the gamer
    Asmongold on YouTube. The topic of course was the unrest surrounding the
    LA ICE raids. The commentary triggered some back-and-forth with users in
    his chat one of whom tried to dismiss what was going on in LA by
    comparing it to the protest on January 6, 2021. This prompted another
    user to comment that the Left “Always brings up Jan 6.”

    To which, Asmongold responded, “Because they don’t have any other examples.”

    From the very start of the January 6 saga, it’s been a constant struggle
    to get the truth out over the mountain of lies spread by the media and
    the Biden administration about what actually happened that day. The
    frustration is compounded by the fact that even among those on the Right
    who are distrustful of the media, many continue to believe the lies. As
    a result, demonstrable untruths about the protests on January 6 remain unchallenged.

    I wish I could challenge all of them here and now, but that’s an
    exercise that must unfold over time because the lies are so many and the propagandized are so recalcitrant.

    As a start, highlighting key differences between what’s been going on
    (for days now) in Los Angeles and what happened that day in DC over four
    years ago illustrates just how malevolently deceitful the stories about
    January 6 are.

    From the perspective of someone who was actually present at the Capitol
    on January 6th and who suffered under the Biden regime’s boot heel–culminating in 18 months of incarceration–the differences in the media’s reaction to J6 and the LA riots is infuriating.

    The images of unrest in Los Angeles playing out as the media tells us
    that it is completely peaceful behavior to attack officers, burn cars,
    and be kitted out with glossy signage and tactical gear alone are easily mocked. Attempts to compare the two are laughably nonsensical.

    It’s not even close as even a cursory examination of the evidence
    proves.

    Let’s take a look at the key differences.

    1. Flags
    It’s been the topic of many commentators on social media that there’s something extremely off-putting about the fact that the protesters in LA aren’t waving American flags but flags of Mexico, Palestine, and other countries. Though it may seem trivial to some, the flags tell you
    everything you need to know about what the protesters in both situations
    hold as guiding ideals.

    For January 6, the flags were a mix of American flags along with Trump
    flags. This underscores the fact that the intent of the protesters was
    to protest in the name of our own country.

    Yes, the protest was directed at elements of the government, but that’s
    what every protest is ostensibly — a chance to bring and express your grievances to the government in order that those grievances may be
    addressed.

    The LA protesters, on other hand, are clearly not interested in
    promoting American values or calling on their fellow citizens to uphold American ideals.

    No, these are self-identified foreigners resisting a government to which
    they hold no allegiance in a country whose culture for all intents and
    purposes they hold in open disdain. All while flying the flags of the
    nations they so desperately seek to avoid.

    On January 6, the media claimed it was the end of democracy because
    Americans waving American flags were protesting, while this week we have
    seen them glorify self-identified illegal immigrants saying the laws of
    America do not apply to them because they are stealing back what amounts
    to stolen goods, namely the land we call home.

    As the protestors in Dallas proclaimed, “Chinga la migra” (F-ck the immigration authorities) and “No one is illegal on stolen land.”



    2. Funding
    When I booked my flight and hotel to Washington DC, exactly zero tax
    payer dollars were spent. Neither the Trump speech at the Ellipse nor
    the protest at the Capitol building saw any protesters provided with
    food or protest supplies like signs, protective gear, or flags.

    Many people have been shocked to discover that the LA rioters are
    actually being funded, much of it by we the American taxpayers.

    Among the non-governmental organizations connected with the street
    actions over the past weekend are CHIRLA (Coalition of Humane
    Immigration Rights – LA), PSL (Party for Socialism and Liberation — a Communist organization), and the Million Voters Project.

    These organizations share resources and collaborate in numerous ways.
    The first has received upwards to $34 million in government grants while
    the other two have benefited from millions of dollars in funding from
    pro-China Communism billionaire Neville Singham.

    And, as we’ll see below, America isn’t the only country providing
    financial or moral support to the rioters.

    None of the protesters on January 6 benefited from this kind of
    government support. Nor were we flush with millions of dollars paid by billionaires and think tanks.

    Because there were over 1,500 of us, the legal fees alone would have
    easily exceeded $100 million–an amount that already dwarfs the
    government money received by CHIRLA.

    Any donations we received were from individual supporters, many of them anonymously contributing small sums ranging from a few dollars to maybe
    a couple hundred.

    Additionally, these donations were sent to political prisoners’
    commissary accounts after they were imprisoned, not before the protest.
    J6ers were already behind bars when they received any money.

    If this iteration of the Summer of Love is anything like the prior 2020 debacle, we can expect most of the LA rioters to have their charges
    dropped, if any are brought at all.

    3. Media Lies
    It’s no mystery that the media played a major role in sensationalizing
    what happened on January 6th. By the end of the day pundits were
    seething over the “attempted insurrection” and took their fainting
    couches wailing that America would never recover unless we protesters
    were all rounded up and taken out of society and away from public
    discourse.

    To enflame public outrage, there was no end to the lies told about
    January 6. First they said we murdered cops.

    When it turned out that the sole deceased officer, Brian Sicknick, died
    of a heart attack not on January 6th but the next day, they still
    insisted against all logic and facts the cause of death was the protest.

    Then came a slough of officer suicides/dubious deaths, some as late as
    six months after the original protest. The press claimed these men too
    were “killed” by J6ers.

    As the push back against the counterfactual media claims became more vociferous, the press stopped calling us murderers and instead referred
    to January 6 as “the deadly protest.”

    Why would they use such vague language? Because it was deadly. For us.
    Four protesters died as a result of police actions that day.

    Not a single cop was killed. But to hear the media talk about it, we
    left the Capitol strewn with the bodies of officers all of whom died
    valiantly protecting “democracy” from the deadly scourge of popular dissent.

    The insistence on characterizing Jan 6 as a “deadly protest” took a very real toll on J6ers.

    Imagine being called a murderous insurrectionist by your family members
    because the government charged you with trespassing.

    This was only a small portion of the media mischaracterization of
    January 6. In every detail, rhetorical language was amped up to provoke
    the maximum amount of disgust.

    One photo of a Democrat picking up a small collection of items from the
    floor is described by the AP as “Rep. Andy Kim, D-N.J., cleans up debris
    and personal belongings strewn across the floor of the Rotunda in the
    early morning hours of Jan. 7, 2021, after rioters stormed the Capitol
    in Washington.” Yet the floors and walls in the background are pristine
    and unblemished. Where is the “debris” mentioned?

    In another photo, Kim can be seen picking up discarded bottles of water.
    The floors are again immaculate.

    I mention this because one of the biggest lies about Jan 6 is that
    protesters smeared blood and feces throughout the Capitol. In my own
    research and in my interactions with three separate AIs (all which
    conducted extremely long searches for such a simple question), no
    photographic or video evidence exists. This is best evidence of “feces smeared on the walls” I’ve been able to find: the-sun.com/news/2105149/trump-supporters-smeared-poo-capitol-building/

    The original caption reads: “Remnants of feces was spotted on the floor
    as brown ‘foot-prints,’ a source said.” Not only are there no brown footprints, but the part of the floor untouched by chemical irritants
    appears so clean, it could have been newly mopped.

    So the feces fantasy comes entirely word of mouth from anonymous
    staffers who were likely experiencing mud for the first time in their
    lives (it was wet outside) or deliberately fabricating this story in
    order to frame protesters in the worst possible light.

    They promoted the narrative that J6ers were an animalistic rabble
    mindlessly desecrating the hallowed halls of our anointed government
    overlords.

    Either that, or we are to believe that these same staffers, festooned
    with high tech gadgets all equipped with cameras didn’t once think to document their startling discovery.

    The media lies in the other extreme when it comes the actual deadly
    riots fomented by the Left. As Real Clear politics has documented,
    damages from the BLM riots ran into the billions of dollars.

    Yet the media insisted throughout 2020 that the columns of smoke were
    the product of “mostly peaceful protests” — a claim so ludicrous that
    the still image of the CNN reporter standing in front of a burning city
    block with those words emblazoned on the chyron at the bottom of screen
    became a symbol of media malfeasance. My based attorney Marina Medvin
    used that very still in one of my filings.



    Today, the media continue to insist that the riots happening over the
    course of days in LA are also peaceful.

    ABC7 Jory Rand argued on Sunday that the National Guard wasn’t needed on
    the scene because it was “just a bunch of people having fun watching
    cars burn.” The media insisted the problem wasn’t protesters’ violence, but that the presence of law enforcement provoked them.

    Most people aren’t so demeaned that they would listen to such lies, but
    as I keep pointing out, they know people don’t believe them. They know
    they won’t change hearts or minds.

    When Leftists speak, it’s to encourage their fellow Leftists to
    violence. And that’s exactly what’s happening in LA and now in other
    cities around the country as well.

    But J6ers weren’t only faced with media lies.

    4. Government Response
    Before the sun set on January 6 2021, the word was out. The day was
    repeatedly labeled an attempted insurrection and this media furor gave
    the government the basis it needed to mobilize its full force in a
    political round-up campaign of “shock and awe” in response to a growing threat of domestic terror.

    Even in its first few months, this nationwide police action was already described as the “largest investigation and prosecution” in the recent history of the Department of Justice.

    Today, after a weekend-plus of constant street violence and destruction,
    the LA PD currently claim roughly 39 arrests with most of those being
    for failure to disperse while the rest are related to blocking highway
    101.

    Considering that protests have been out of hand for days on end now,
    that’s a distressingly low number of arrests for relatively minor
    crimes.

    Compare that with the federal government’s treatment of people who
    walked harmlessly through our Capitol and the lengths through which the Department of Justice went to charge with insurrectiony-sounding crimes (“interference in official proceeding”) which didn’t even apply to their cases legally.

    It doesn’t even come close in either scope or scale. When rounding up
    the small business owners and farmers of J6, the FBI employed wires,
    facial recognition software, financial tracking, and cell phone
    geofencing. For the ICE protests, the FBI is simply putting up old
    fashioned wanted posters with promises of rewards.

    But even on the ground, there was a massive difference in response. The disturbance of January 6 lasted a mere few hours spanning from the time Trump’s speech ended around 1pm and the crowds dispersed in time to get
    back to their hotels by curfew, which was 6pm that day.

    And speaking of curfew, that was the only push warning we protesters
    received on that day.

    Despite the fact that the city (and certainly the federal government)
    had the ability to push out a notice to disperse, no such order was even
    given. Not by phone, nor by the Giant Voice System that had been
    operational in DC since 2015.

    By the time the protest was called an illegal gathering, we protesters
    were already departing the West Terrace in an orderly fashion. I should
    know. I was the last person off the Western Terrace.

    The ICE protesters on other hand, have been given numerous warnings to disperse. Not just one night but over the course of several consecutive
    days including June 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th.

    For many of us at the Capitol on Jan 6th, the situation was chaotic and unfamiliar. Although there were conflicts with the police, the bulk of
    the protesters would have complied with official directions to disperse
    had any been given. None were. That’s not the case with the LA
    protesters. They can’t plead ignorance or confusion because the order to disperse and declaration of illegal gathering occurs every night in a ritualistic fashion.

    5. Arson and Looting
    There’s a very famous photo that the media likes to pull out to defame
    J6 protesters. It’s quite dramatic, although the truth behind utterly destroys the story it’s meant to push.

    The photo shows a great cloud rising from a glowing light. I think most
    people looking at this would assume that the Capitol building itself had
    been set afire. It wasn’t. In fact, no fires whatsoever were set by the protesters.

    What appears to be smoke in that photo is actually a massive cloud of
    chemical irritants such as, but not limited to, tear gas. The reason it
    looks like there’s a fire is because that cloud appears to be rising
    from a light source.

    But the light source is actually a massive concussive blast from flash
    bang grenades. The photo either has perfect timing, or it’s a still
    frame taken from a longer video.

    Nonetheless, the light coming from below the cloud is actually a bit of stagecraft to make it look like something is on fire when it isn’t.

    So what you’re actually seeing is NOT a group of destructive protesters dancing in the flames they set in the nation’s Capitol. In reality it’s
    a large group of people kettled in on the West Terrace being mercilessly bombarded with munitions by police. The same police who provided no
    means of egress, no order to disperse, and no warning.

    Compare this to the constant lighting of fires in LA — a practice that, again, has continued for many consecutive days now. In fact, many of the
    more iconic images from those protests feature the columns of black
    smoke and flaming cars deliberately torched by the LA rioters. It’s
    almost as if the Left accuses the Right for the very crimes they commit.

    Another thing the J6 protesters refrained from doing that the LA rioters
    are keen on is looting. No stores in DC were touched, torched, broken
    into, or robbed that day. Like I said, we were in by 6pm. That didn’t
    leave a lot of time for mischief. Nevermind that the destruction of
    private property is not something conservatives condone.

    Not the case with the invaders in LA. In fact, the looting situation
    remains so fluid that no dollar amounts have been calculated for the
    damage inflicted on local businesses. According to Grok on X, there have
    been approximately 15 LA businesses attacked thus far. These include an
    Apple Store, a T-Mobile, several shoe stores (Adidas, Nike, and a Shoe
    Palace), several jewelry stores, two dispensaries, and a sushi place.

    Keep in mind, this is a running tally. Unless these riots are stopped,
    the looting and arson is likely to continue.

    This is devastating for the citizens of Los Angeles. We know this
    because over four years after the George Floyd riots, Minneapolis has
    yet to recover. Many of the businesses destroyed never reopened.
    Property values cratered. Homelessness and crime spiked. And even the
    schools declined.

    Looting does more than illegally transfer the goods held by the store
    into the hands of the looters. It ruins the social compact between local governments and businesses, causing them to flee areas where civic
    leaders are too incompetent to ensure a functioning social order.

    That’s another way of saying that looting inflicts a permanent malaise
    in cities where it occurs. Those businesses are not going to come back.

    And I can’t help but chuckle to myself at the fact that a box of DC
    jurors hated us much more than any potential box of LA jurors will hate
    the separatist rioters who caused substantially more damage to local
    businesses and personal property. We were hated not for what we did but
    for who we supported politically.

    6. Purpose
    The last big difference between the LA rioters and the J6 protesters
    lies in the reasons behind each protest.

    J6ers marched to the People’s House that day to exercise our rights as citizens and protest a stolen election. It’s really telling that you can
    say this in mixed company these days and people generally at least
    acknowledge that the 2020 election was suspiciously anomalous to say the
    least.

    There’s a trope on the Left that the courts somehow weighed in on the validity of our concerns and issued definitive judgments based on
    dispassionate and thorough investigations. Nothing could be further from
    the truth.

    The courts then, like now, operated in defense of the Washington Beast.
    Instead of judging the cases on their merits, complaints were dismissed
    on standing — a consideration that has nothing to do with validity of
    the arguments of those who challenged the case.

    In the highly rare and exceptional instances where the arguments were considered, the election skeptics were actually vindicated.

    But then came the research by the Caesar Rodney Institute into the
    enormous web of billionaire-backed organizations dedicated to tipping
    the election in Biden’s favor. That was followed by the movie 2000 Mules which showed how the steal was pulled off.

    But beyond these examples and other research, there was always something extremely off about the Biden administration.

    It’s very important to understand that no matter what you think about
    the Jan 6 protest, Biden was the ultimate winner of that debate when it
    came to the certification of the election. Biden’s presidency was not derailed.

    Though he came into the White House under a cloud of suspicion, a very
    similar cloud of “Russian collusion” dogged the first Trump
    administration. Yet the manner in which the two presidents treated their detractors could not be more different.

    Trump was continually and publicly harangued, yet he remained
    magnanimous. He didn’t send police into the countryside to pull apart families for the crime of having a different political opinion.

    Biden did. Not only did he constantly hound us and our families and our supporters and anyone who so much as questioned his election online (as
    well as traditional Catholics and prolifers)—he also labored at various points throughout his administration to stoke extreme hatred and fear
    against the country for questioning his legitimacy.

    Call me crazy, but that seems like a major indictment of the 2020
    election. From the start, Biden acted like a man desperate to keep the
    truth from coming to light and willing to use any government tool to
    suppress that truth.

    Revelations since Biden departed from ofice have only underscored the
    degree to which his entire presidency seemed a carefully orchestrated
    and deliberately staged deception. The advent of the autopen scandal has
    for the first time in the history of American politics left the voting
    public perplexed as to who was actually running the country for those
    four dark years.

    Contrast this with the LA rioters. Waving flags of the very countries
    they allegedly fled from, they fight for a right no true American
    citizen can claim: immunity from federal law.

    This despite the fact the reason they’re protesting is because they
    aren’t even citizens to begin with and the specific law they demand
    immunity from happen to be the very laws we the people established to
    control who does and does not become an American.

    This is no petition of grievances. They’re protesting for a permanent
    change in how immigration law is applied. If granted, this proposition nullifies laws essential for how we American citizens control our land,
    our culture, and our government. If we choose to listen to the rioters’
    pleas for sympathy, it would lead to the total annihilation of the
    American nation state as we know it.

    Which, frankly, is their explicit aim. It’s no secret. The protesters
    are openly saying this is their goal: to wrench our country away from
    us. The invaders frequently refer to our country as “stolen land” which must be subject to “reconquista” or reconquest. One of the groups supporting the rioters is the Communist organization Centro CSO, which
    claims the entire American Southwest is actually a separate Chicano
    nation, called Aztlan.

    So if you were wondering why the protesters are waving flags of
    countries they never want to return to, there’s your most logical
    answer: they aren’t going back to Mexico because they’re bringing Mexico
    to us.

    It seems we have a name for when you go to a country to establish a
    territory for your home country: invasion.

    As if that’s not damning enough, none other than the president of
    Mexico, upon discovering the existence of a remittance tax in the
    upcoming budget bill, warned America that she would “mobilize” against
    our country in response. Within two weeks LA protesters were pushing to
    create an autonomous zone where American federal immigration law would
    not apply. This is naked aggression.

    There’s a real poetic justice in the fact that media talking heads like
    to compare Jan 6 with what’s going on with the ICE riots. As I’ve
    pointed out, they seemed to have a vested interest in protecting the DC
    system by convincing our fellow citizens that Jan 6 was an insurrection.

    Yet the most unbiased assessment of the facts around the ICE riots,
    which they relentlessly downplay, reveal that the rioters’ focus and
    goal are nothing short of insurrection itself.

    And this major difference is the most important distinguishing
    characteristic between the two events: that Jan 6ers were intent on
    saving our great nation through lawful political dissent, while the ICE
    rioters want nothing more than to tear the country apart as their
    continued lawlessness mindlessly refashions LA in the image of the
    nations they fled'

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Dietrich Von GassenHousen on Mon Jun 16 13:15:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, talk.politics.guns

    Dietrich Von GassenHousen wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    '6 Reasons the ‘No Kings’ Riots Are Far Worse Than January 6 — But the Media Still Calls Them ‘Mostly Peaceful’'

    <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/06/6-reasons-no-kings-riots-are-far-worse/>

    <snip>

    Captain, tricorder readings indicate complete bullshit.

    --
    Say! You've struck a heap of trouble--
    Bust in business, lost your wife;
    No one cares a cent about you,
    You don't care a cent for life;
    Hard luck has of hope bereft you,
    Health is failing, wish you'd die--
    Why, you've still the sunshine left you
    And the big blue sky.
    -- R. W. Service

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Dietrich Von GassenHousen on Mon Jun 16 17:18:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, talk.politics.guns

    On 2025-06-16 15:40:45 +0000, Dietrich Von GassenHousen said:

    1. Flags
    It’s been the topic of many commentators on social media that there’s something extremely off-putting about the fact that the protesters in LA aren’t waving American flags but flags of Mexico, Palestine, and other countries. Though it may seem trivial to some, the flags tell you
    everything you need to know about what the protesters in both situations
    hold as guiding ideals.

    For January 6, the flags were a mix of American flags along with Trump
    flags.

    ...along with Confederate flags, some which were actually marched into
    the Capitol building.

    This underscores the fact that the intent of the protesters was
    to protest in the name of our own country.

    Well, in the name of past traitors of our country at least.

    Breakdown, shakedown, yer busted.

    No point in taking the rest of this horseshit seriously.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)