• The Top 10 Lies Of Liz Cheney And The Jan. 6th Committee

    From John Smyth@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 6 12:23:13 2025
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    Just a reminder of why this should be investigated.

    'Here Are The Top 10 Lies Of Liz Cheney And The January 6th Committee'

    'Here's a look at the top 10 lies of Liz Cheney and the January 6th
    Committee four years after the Capitol demonstrations.'

    <https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4288388/posts>

    <https://thefederalist.com/2025/01/06/here-are-the-top-10-lies-of-liz-cheney-and-the-january-6th-committee/>

    'Disgraced ex-Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney was awarded one of the highest
    civilian honors last week after House Republicans referred the vice
    chair of the since-disbanded Select Committee on Jan. 6 to the Justice Department for criminal charges.

    On Thursday, President Joe Biden presented Cheney with the Presidential
    Medal of Freedom along with Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., who chaired
    the Democrats’ Soviet-style inquisition on the Capitol riot, for their
    work running the probe. In December, however, the House Administration Subcommittee on Oversight led by Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., released
    a nearly 130-page review of the Jan. 6 Committee’s work, concluding
    Cheney should face a criminal investigation for “witness tampering.”

    “Evidence uncovered by the Subcommittee revealed that former
    Congresswoman Liz Cheney tampered with at least one witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, by secretly communicating with Hutchinson without
    Hutchinson’s attorney’s knowledge,” the report said. Cheney had coordinated to circumvent Hutchinson’s attorney even as the vice chair
    of the Jan. 6 panel threatened legal action against anyone who attempted
    to influence witness testimony. The textbook case of projection was just
    one in a series of episodes wherein House investigators deputized by then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi concealed truths surrounding the riot on Jan.
    6.

    1. January 6th Was An ‘Insurrection’
    Democrats on the Jan. 6 panel and beyond deployed the term
    “insurrection” to characterize the two hours of violence at the Capitol like they collectively developed Tourette’s as a nasty side effect of
    Trump Derangement Syndrome. If what happened at the Capitol, however,
    were actually an attempted insurrection, then why weren’t any of the
    Jan. 6 defendants ever charged and convicted of “insurrection?” Because
    the term was used as nothing but a charged political phrase to frame
    Trump and his supporters as existential threats to democracy itself.

    2. Democracy Almost Died
    In her post-congressional memoir published in 2023, Cheney solemnly
    wrote “we almost lost our republic that day,” referencing the demonstrations on Jan. 6, 2021. At a public hearing in 2022, Chairman
    Thompson similarly said, “our system nearly failed and our democratic foundation” was almost “destroyed.” Except such hyperbolic claims never had any merit. Lawmakers were promptly escorted to secure locations
    after security at the Capitol was compromised, and Congress was able to reconvene just hours after. The continuity of government was never
    jeopardized, despite what the Jan. 6 Committee convinced themselves and
    their supporters to believe.

    3. Trump Incited The ‘Insurrection’
    The Jan. 6 Committee concluded its investigation with criminal referrals
    for President Trump of having incited, assisted, or aided and comforted
    an “insurrection.” The recommendation for criminal charges rests on the conspiracy peddled by the Jan. 6 Committee that because Trump spoke at
    the White House on the day of the riot, he must have inspired his
    supporters to take over the Capitol during the joint session of
    Congress. An honest examination of the transcript from Trump’s Ellipse speech, however, shows the president explicitly demanded that his
    supporters protest “peacefully and patriotically.” The mob gathered at
    the Capitol, meanwhile, had already breached the first barriers before
    the president had even finished speaking.

    4. Trump Was Enthusiastic About The Violence
    President Trump, the Jan. 6 Committee said, was not just apathetic about
    the violence, but was enthusiastic, according to testimony from the
    panel’s star witness, former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson. Trump, Hutchinson said in her public testimony, approved of demonstrators who
    were demanding to “hang” the vice president. But House investigators who reviewed the Jan. 6 Committee’s charges found “no evidence that
    President Trump agreed with rioters chanting ‘hang Mike Pence.'”

    5. Trump Tried To Hijack Limousine To Riot At The Capitol Himself
    One of Hutchinson’s most hysterical claims was that President Trump
    assaulted Secret Service personnel to take over a government vehicle and
    drive himself to the Capitol where he could join the rioters.
    Hutchinson, however, was immediately discredited by her own sources
    following her public appearance and was further undermined in the nearly 130-page review of the Jan. 6 Committee’s conduct last month. In fact, a
    new transcript with a Secret Service driver kept under seal by Cheney’s
    team directly contradicted Hutchinson’s tale.

    “I did not see him reach. He never grabbed the steering wheel,” the
    driver had told investigators on the Jan. 6 panel. “I didn’t see him,
    you know, lunge to try to get into the front seat at all.”

    6. Trump Dismissed Need For National Guard
    In her memoir, Cheney characterized Trump as negligent in his role to
    deploy the National Guard ahead of electoral certification.

    “To be clear, the issue was not that the Secret Service failed to brief
    those up the chain at the White House about the threat,” Cheney wrote.
    “It appeared to the Committee that this information was being conveyed
    up the chain, including directly to Mark Meadows and President Trump.”

    “With the weight of the intelligence we received via Homeland Security,
    it is exceptionally difficult to believe that anyone in the White House
    with access to this information could have failed to recognize this
    obvious menace,” she wrote.

    Except Trump was adamant about local and congressional officials
    preparing for mass demonstrations by demanding pre-emptive deployment of
    10,000 troops from the National Guard. Cheney’s committee just covered
    up Trump’s plea by concealing another transcript from a witness
    lawmakers tried to discredit after Pelosi refused to accept federal reinforcements multiple times in the days leading up to the riot.

    7. Demonstrations Were Mostly Violent
    Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson flipped the Jan. 6 Committee’s
    narrative of an excessively violent demonstration on its head when he
    aired additional footage from the Capitol released to his team by
    then-House Speaker Kevin McCarthy two years ago.

    “These are the pictures you’ve seen of Jan. 6,” Carlson said on his now-defunct prime-time program. “But it turns out there’s quite a bit of video you haven’t seen. And that video tells a very different story
    about what happened on Jan. 6.”

    Carlson’s producers reviewed more than 40,000 hours of security footage
    kept under seal by House Democrats revealing a far different
    demonstration at the Capitol than the few scenes exploited by the Jan. 6 Committee to depict what they claimed was an eruption of domestic
    terrorism.


    Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah mocked the hysteria from the committee when Cheney reposted clips of the riot featuring the most turbulent scenes in
    response to Carlson’s program.

    “Liz, we’ve seen footage like that a million times. You made sure we saw that — and nothing else,” Lee wrote on X. “It’s the other stuff — what
    you deliberately hid from us — that we find so upsetting.”


    8. Capitol Police Officer Was Killed In Riot
    The New York Times quietly corrected a story blaming Capitol rioters for
    the death of deceased officer Brian Sicknick, but members of the Jan. 6 Committee never have. In fact, during a hearing months after a report
    from the D.C. medical examiner’s office concluded Officer Sicknick died
    of natural causes, then-Rep. Elaine Lauria claimed he “succumbed to his injuries” from the riot “the night of January 7th.”

    The only two people to die directly from the riot were female Trump
    supporters Ashli Babbitt, who was shot by a Capitol police officer
    promoted two years after the riot, and Roseanne Boyland, who was
    trampled. Footage aired by Carlson in the Jan. 6 tapes show Sicknick,
    the officer allegedly bludgeoned by a fire extinguisher, vigorously
    walking around the Capitol following the hit.


    9. Loudermilk Gave Rioters ‘Reconnaissance Tours’
    In the summer of 2022, House Democrats accused Rep. Loudermilk of giving “reconnaissance tours” ahead of the “attack on the Capitol” after viewing security footage of the Georgia lawmaker escorting constituents
    around the building.

    “The FBI totally cleared them,” Loudermilk told Carlson when the network host aired the Jan. 6 tapes. “The committee knew this before they
    actually made their accusations against me.”

    10. The Jan. 6 Committee Was Legitimate
    Then-Speaker Pelosi violated House rules when she banned minority representation on her Select Committee to investigate Jan. 6. The
    unprecedented move to bar Republican lawmakers from the committee meant
    Cheney had misled witnesses and federal agencies about the panel’s
    legitimate bipartisanship. Because House rules dictate that ranking
    committee members must be appointed by the minority party, Cheney, who
    was appointed by the Democrat speaker at the time, served as the panel’s
    vice chair.

    The Select Committee was ostensibly established “to investigate and
    report upon” the objective “facts and causes relating to the
    preparedness and response of the United States Capitol Police and other Federal, State, and local law enforcement” in the course of the Capitol
    riot as outlined by the committee’s establishing resolution. Yet
    Pelosi’s commission instead targeted private citizens who exercised
    their constitutional right of free assembly. The legitimacy of the committee’s actions has always remained in question, since Congress is
    not one of the branches of government tasked with investigating alleged
    crimes of private citizens

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to John Smyth on Mon Jan 6 22:31:53 2025
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    On 2025-01-06, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Just a reminder of why this should be investigated.

    'Here Are The Top 10 Lies Of Liz Cheney And The January 6th Committee'

    'Here's a look at the top 10 lies of Liz Cheney and the January 6th
    Committee four years after the Capitol demonstrations.'

    <https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4288388/posts>

    <https://thefederalist.com/2025/01/06/here-are-the-top-10-lies-of-liz-cheney-and-the-january-6th-committee/>

    'Disgraced ex-Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney was awarded one of the highest
    civilian honors last week after House Republicans referred the vice
    chair of the since-disbanded Select Committee on Jan. 6 to the Justice Department for criminal charges.

    On Thursday, President Joe Biden presented Cheney with the Presidential
    Medal of Freedom along with Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., who chaired
    the Democrats’ Soviet-style inquisition on the Capitol riot, for their
    work running the probe. In December, however, the House Administration Subcommittee on Oversight led by Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., released
    a nearly 130-page review of the Jan. 6 Committee’s work, concluding
    Cheney should face a criminal investigation for “witness tampering.”

    This entire investigation was a kangaroo court sham.
    An independent counsel should be appointed to investigate.
    If they did nothing wrong so be it but it really stinks to high heaven.


    --
    pothead

    "Give a man a fish and you turn him into a Democrat for life"
    "Teach a man to fish and he might become a self-sufficient conservative Republican"
    "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up,"
    --- Barack H. Obama

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to pothead on Mon Jan 6 14:42:34 2025
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    pothead wrote:
    This entire investigation was a kangaroo court sham.
    An independent counsel should be appointed to investigate.

    Congress is allowed to investigate, with subpoenas, to support its
    legislating. Congress is not allowed to do criminal investigation.

    You again trash the Constitution.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Mon Jan 6 22:59:31 2025
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    On 2025-01-06, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
    pothead wrote:
    This entire investigation was a kangaroo court sham.
    An independent counsel should be appointed to investigate.

    Congress is allowed to investigate, with subpoenas, to support its legislating. Congress is not allowed to do criminal investigation.

    You again trash the Constitution.

    Investigate is what I said.
    Are you drunk again Siri?



    --
    pothead

    "Give a man a fish and you turn him into a Democrat for life"
    "Teach a man to fish and he might become a self-sufficient conservative Republican"
    "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up,"
    --- Barack H. Obama

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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to pothead on Mon Jan 6 16:16:49 2025
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    On 1/6/2025 2:31 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-01-06, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Just a reminder of why this should be investigated.

    'Here Are The Top 10 Lies Of Liz Cheney And The January 6th Committee'

    'Here's a look at the top 10 lies of Liz Cheney and the January 6th
    Committee four years after the Capitol demonstrations.'

    <https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4288388/posts>

    <https://thefederalist.com/2025/01/06/here-are-the-top-10-lies-of-liz-cheney-and-the-january-6th-committee/>

    'Disgraced ex-Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney was awarded one of the highest
    civilian honors last week after House Republicans referred the vice
    chair of the since-disbanded Select Committee on Jan. 6 to the Justice
    Department for criminal charges.

    On Thursday, President Joe Biden presented Cheney with the Presidential
    Medal of Freedom along with Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., who chaired
    the Democrats’ Soviet-style inquisition on the Capitol riot, for their
    work running the probe. In December, however, the House Administration
    Subcommittee on Oversight led by Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., released
    a nearly 130-page review of the Jan. 6 Committee’s work, concluding
    Cheney should face a criminal investigation for “witness tampering.”

    This entire investigation was a kangaroo court sham.
    It wasn't a court in any way. It was an investigative committee, and they did a thorough job.

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  • From Tucker@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 7 00:48:48 2025
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    On 06 Jan 2025, J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com> posted some news:vlhrpi$1s8h2$2@dont-email.me:

    On 1/6/2025 2:31 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-01-06, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Just a reminder of why this should be investigated.

    'Here Are The Top 10 Lies Of Liz Cheney And The January 6th
    Committee'

    'Here's a look at the top 10 lies of Liz Cheney and the January 6th
    Committee four years after the Capitol demonstrations.'

    <https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4288388/posts>

    <https://thefederalist.com/2025/01/06/here-are-the-top-10-lies-of-liz
    -cheney-and-the-january-6th-committee/>

    'Disgraced ex-Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney was awarded one of the highest
    civilian honors last week after House Republicans referred the vice
    chair of the since-disbanded Select Committee on Jan. 6 to the
    Justice Department for criminal charges.

    On Thursday, President Joe Biden presented Cheney with the
    Presidential Medal of Freedom along with Rep. Bennie Thompson,
    D-Miss., who chaired the Democrats’ Soviet-style inquisition on
    the Capitol riot, for their work running the probe. In December,
    however, the House Administration Subcommittee on Oversight led by
    Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., released a nearly 130-page review of
    the Jan. 6 Committee’s work, concluding Cheney should face a
    criminal investigation for “witness tampering.”

    This entire investigation was a kangaroo court sham.
    It wasn't a court in any way. It was an investigative committee, and
    they did a thorough job.

    They did a thorough job of branding themselves as partisan idiots for
    history eternal. They will be judged harshly by the generations ahead.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 6 18:09:50 2025
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    In news:vlhm8u$1r8si$1@dont-email.me, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> typed:

    pothead wrote:

    This entire investigation was a kangaroo court sham.
    An independent counsel should be appointed to investigate.

    Congress is allowed to investigate, with subpoenas, to support its legislating. Congress is not allowed to do criminal investigation.

    What legislation did the committee propose?

    You again trash the Constitution.

    I'm surprised you've heard of it.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to max headroom on Mon Jan 6 20:06:02 2025
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    max headroom wrote:
    In news:vlhm8u$1r8si$1@dont-email.me, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> typed:

    pothead wrote:

    This entire investigation was a kangaroo court sham.
    An independent counsel should be appointed to investigate.

    Congress is allowed to investigate, with subpoenas, to support its
    legislating. Congress is not allowed to do criminal investigation.

    What legislation did the committee propose?

    The amended the law clarifying the vicepresident's role.

    They also made the Capitol more secure.


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  • From Orville@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 7 05:28:18 2025
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    On 06 Jan 2025, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> posted some news:vlhn8j$1r22m$8@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-01-06, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
    pothead wrote:
    This entire investigation was a kangaroo court sham.
    An independent counsel should be appointed to investigate.

    Congress is allowed to investigate, with subpoenas, to support its
    legislating. Congress is not allowed to do criminal investigation.

    You again trash the Constitution.

    Investigate is what I said.
    Are you drunk again Siri?

    Psychedelic mushrooms this week.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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