• [gentoo-user] Plasma app preservation

    From Peter Humphrey@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 19 13:10:01 2024
    Greetings,

    Is any other plasma user still having trouble starting it with the previous arrangement of desktops and programs?

    https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471977 refers.

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    Peter.

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  • From Peter Humphrey@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 20 00:00:01 2024
    On Thursday 19 December 2024 12:01:43 GMT I wrote:

    Is any other plasma user still having trouble starting it with the previous arrangement of desktops and programs?

    https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471977 refers.

    Turns out it's a known problem with wayland, which doesn't yet have such a feature. I'm now recompiling 140 packages with USE=-wayland.

    Watch this space...

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    Peter.

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  • From Peter Humphrey@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 20 15:20:01 2024
    On Thursday 19 December 2024 23:40:52 GMT Matt Jolly wrote:
    You don't need to do that; you just need to launch an X11 session instead of Wayland.

    Well, I'll go to the foot of our stairs, as they say around here. (Don't ask
    me why.)

    Why has it taken so long for the heart of the issue to be revealed, and then the cure for it? I hardly dare think of the amount of frustration it has
    caused over at least a year.

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  • From Peter Humphrey@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 20 16:00:01 2024
    On Friday 20 December 2024 14:18:14 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote:
    On Thursday 19 December 2024 23:40:52 GMT Matt Jolly wrote:
    You don't need to do that; you just need to launch an X11 session instead of Wayland.

    Well, I'll go to the foot of our stairs, as they say around here. (Don't ask me why.)

    Why has it taken so long for the heart of the issue to be revealed, and then the cure for it? I hardly dare think of the amount of frustration it has caused over at least a year.

    In any case, it doesn't work, or not here. After reading 'man sddm.conf' I set DisplayServer=x11 in /etc/sddm.conf.d/01gentoo.conf, rebooted, set up my desktops as I wanted them and logged out and in again.

    Everything was piled up on Desktop 1, as before.

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    Peter.

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  • From Peter Humphrey@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 22 17:20:01 2024
    On Friday 20 December 2024 20:28:05 GMT Matt Jolly wrote:

    It doesn't matter what SDDM is using - it can launch either an X11 or
    Wayland Plasma session for the DE in question.

    Use the dropdown in SDDM to select a Plasma (X11) session and you should be fine.

    That took a bit of spotting - thanks.

    I wonder if there's a way to make my selection there permanent.

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  • From Peter Humphrey@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 23 17:00:01 2024
    On Sunday 22 December 2024 17:58:30 GMT Dale wrote:
    Peter Humphrey wrote:
    On Friday 20 December 2024 20:28:05 GMT Matt Jolly wrote:
    It doesn't matter what SDDM is using - it can launch either an X11 or
    Wayland Plasma session for the DE in question.

    Use the dropdown in SDDM to select a Plasma (X11) session and you should >> be
    fine.

    That took a bit of spotting - thanks.

    I wonder if there's a way to make my selection there permanent.

    On my systems, it remembers the last one selected. To be honest tho,
    I'd double check the next few logins to be sure. :-) Also, check after
    each upgrade to sddm, possibly your desktop as well. I've noticed it changing in the past but is rare and usually after some upgrades. I'm
    not sure what upgrade triggers the change, sddm, KDE or something else.

    I can now see it does that here too. The one exception is my three gkrellm panels, which go to Desktop 1.

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    Peter.

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  • From Peter Humphrey@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 26 12:30:01 2024
    On Monday 23 December 2024 20:13:55 GMT Dale wrote:
    Peter Humphrey wrote:
    On Sunday 22 December 2024 17:58:30 GMT Dale wrote:
    Peter Humphrey wrote:
    On Friday 20 December 2024 20:28:05 GMT Matt Jolly wrote:
    It doesn't matter what SDDM is using - it can launch either an X11 or >>>> Wayland Plasma session for the DE in question.

    Use the dropdown in SDDM to select a Plasma (X11) session and you
    should
    be
    fine.

    That took a bit of spotting - thanks.

    I wonder if there's a way to make my selection there permanent.

    On my systems, it remembers the last one selected. To be honest tho,
    I'd double check the next few logins to be sure. :-) Also, check after >> each upgrade to sddm, possibly your desktop as well. I've noticed it
    changing in the past but is rare and usually after some upgrades. I'm
    not sure what upgrade triggers the change, sddm, KDE or something else.

    I can now see it does that here too. The one exception is my three gkrellm panels, which go to Desktop 1.

    I seem to recall having issues with gkrellm as well. One thing I tried, logging out while gkrellm was closed. Then logging in, opening gkrellm
    and logging back out. It helped some, went to wrong screen but right desktop. I ended up setting up a KDE window rule for it to make it park
    on the right monitor. It worked ever since. Since gkrellm is
    different, make sure gkrellm is active, selected or whatever and hit Alt
    + F3 then select More Actions and rules. I did mine for the whole app I think.

    One of those should beat some sense into it. I hope. :-D

    Fraid not, Dale. I had a kernel upgrade this morning, so a reboot was in
    order. I had set up a window rule to display the three gkrellms on Desktop 4, but they still appear on Desktop 1. Your idea of logging out & in didn't help either.

    Looks like I'll have to exclude gkrellm from being restarted on login.

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    Peter.

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