• Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer system email no not working since gmail

    From Michael@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 27 11:31:33 2024
    On Thursday 26 September 2024 22:11:20 BST Dale wrote:

    root@Gentoo-1 / # telnet smtp.gmail.com 587
    Trying 142.251.116.108...
    Trying 2607:f8b0:4023:1000::6c...
    telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable root@Gentoo-1 / #


    Can't connect. Well, that explains a lot. It can't reach anything to
    log into. It looks like it is trying both IPv4 and v6. So, I used
    ping. It works there.

    STOP RIGHT THERE!

    You may not have a mail application configuration problem after all (ssmtp/ msmtp), but you definitely have a network/server connectivity problem. You need to sort out the network connection first, before you look at your smtp client configuration.


    root@Gentoo-1 / # ping smtp.gmail.com
    PING smtp.gmail.com (142.250.115.108) 56(84) bytes of data.
    64 bytes from rq-in-f108.1e100.net (142.250.115.108): icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=32.1 ms
    64 bytes from rq-in-f108.1e100.net (142.250.115.108): icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=45.0 ms
    64 bytes from rq-in-f108.1e100.net (142.250.115.108): icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=39.3 ms
    ^C
    --- smtp.gmail.com ping statistics ---
    3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 1998ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 32.062/38.776/45.017/5.299 ms
    root@Gentoo-1 / # ping 142.251.116.108
    PING 142.251.116.108 (142.251.116.108) 56(84) bytes of data.
    64 bytes from 142.251.116.108: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=30.4 ms
    64 bytes from 142.251.116.108: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=56.0 ms
    64 bytes from 142.251.116.108: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=30.6 ms
    ^C
    --- 142.251.116.108 ping statistics ---
    3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2000ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 30.351/38.988/56.049/12.063 ms
    root@Gentoo-1 / #

    So you can access the server, but not connect to the port.

    Can you connect to ports 25, or 465?

    Can you connect to 'smtp-relay.gmail.com' instead?

    If you cannot see an open port, then either your network is misconfigured, or you've annoyed Google enough to block your access to their smtp service.


    What silly boo boo did I make this time????

    I am connected through a VPN but Seamonkey works fine. I can check and
    send email there,

    Ah! I have found Google logs your IP address and when this changes they may choose to block your connection to their service. Often it sends you a
    message in your backup email address/phone asking you to confirm if the device and new IP address you are trying to connect from is you and yours.

    Throwing a VPN in the works may trigger the above security (re)action, when your client is using an 'App Password' token, as opposed to the full OAUTH2 exchange.


    That is true but why buy one if you can't run it? LOL This is yet
    another reason I want to switch from Gmail. They nothing but nosy
    anyway. I think it is common knowledge that they scan all emails and
    use the info for various things, including ads, which I block by the way.

    Google's modus operandi is arguably predicated on recording your data, your location, your movements, your purchases, your contacts, your written/spoken word, your interests, your thoughts, etc. Selling advertisements is a monetisation mechanism to facilitate the high cost of their operation. They are not unique in this endeavor, other Big-Tech quasi-monopolies are
    performing the same role. The offer of 'free' internet services is the honeypot used to attract footfall.

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  • From Michael@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 27 14:06:40 2024
    On Friday 27 September 2024 13:11:46 BST Dale wrote:
    Michael wrote:

    You may not have a mail application configuration problem after all
    (ssmtp/
    msmtp), but you definitely have a network/server connectivity problem.
    You
    need to sort out the network connection first, before you look at your
    smtp
    client configuration.

    That's my thinking but everything else works fine. Seamonkey email
    works just fine.

    Is your telnet, ssmtp, msmtp routing going through the same VPN as your Seamonkey?

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  • From Michael@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 27 17:53:29 2024
    On Friday 27 September 2024 17:28:13 BST Dale wrote:
    Grant Edwards wrote:
    On 2024-09-27, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
    You do know about the msmtp man page, right?

    Well, if copying someone's known working config file doesn't work right, >> I'm not sure a man page is going to help much.

    The working configuration I provided didn't have an alias (or aliases) command in it.

    You mentioned I needed to add that so I did. I think that also helped,
    once we got the spelling right.

    That said, I changed the alias line and then got a error about the
    account info.

    What error?

    The error said 'default' was already set. I'm not sure where it was set
    but that's what it said. I commented out the line that I pasted in the config file and then things got better.

    I commented it out too.

    What was "it"?

    I think that was the default account info.

    When I did that, I got this with your test command.

    [...]

    Now things may be working better. So, I restarted smartd and guess
    what, I got emails from smart about my hard drives. I have nine hard
    drives. I got a email for each one. Can I get a YEPPIE!!!!

    Great!

    It is great. Also, reset everything else security wise including main password. It needed doing anyway. I should be safe again.

    Thanks so much.

    Dale

    :-) :-)

    Good result, although I am confused how you were not able to connect with telnet to the gmail server one moment, but were able to connect thereafter
    with msmtp. :-/
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