• Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin confusing different run instances.

    From Frank Steinmetzger@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 12 15:30:01 2024
    Am Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 07:54:25AM -0500 schrieb Dale:
    Howdy,

    I use Dolphin a lot.  I like it and all but recently, it started doing something that annoys me.  When I'm doing something, I tend to open a instance of Dolphin for whatever it is I'm doing.  I also leave
    instances open and ready for when I do routine things.  Some things I do
    so often, I leave them open all the time.  Usually that is four
    instances.  If needed, for example when I'm getting videos off trail cameras, I open another instance until I'm done with that task.  So, I
    use Dolphin for different things on different desktops with tabs in
    different places.  It just makes things easier, faster and works best
    for me. 

    What I don't like is this, when I open a new instance, it tries to copy
    the last instance I used that is still open.  When I open a new
    instance, I want it to open where I want but not be affected by other instances that are running.  Just as a example.  Yesterday I was trying
    to copy videos from my trail cameras to a USB stick while also copying
    and organizing them on my hard drive.  When I put in a USB stick or the
    card from the camera, I click the notification thing and tell it to open
    the USB stick or the card.  Thing is, it tries to copy the instance,
    usually the one I use to watch TV from, which has a lot of open tabs.  I have to close all the tabs I don't want to get things like it should be
    to begin with. 

    Dolphin settings, very first page, very first setting: set it to open a
    fixed location at startup. Then it will not restore any previous internal state.

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  • From Frank Steinmetzger@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 13 02:10:01 2024
    Am Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 08:53:17AM -0500 schrieb Dale:

    Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
    Am Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 07:54:25AM -0500 schrieb Dale:
    Howdy,

    I use Dolphin a lot.  I like it and all but recently, it started doing
    something that annoys me.  When I'm doing something, I tend to open a
    instance of Dolphin for whatever it is I'm doing.  I also leave
    instances open and ready for when I do routine things.  Some things I do >> so often, I leave them open all the time.  Usually that is four
    instances.  If needed, for example when I'm getting videos off trail
    cameras, I open another instance until I'm done with that task.  So, I
    use Dolphin for different things on different desktops with tabs in
    different places.  It just makes things easier, faster and works best
    for me. 
    […]
    Dolphin settings, very first page, very first setting: set it to open a fixed location at startup. Then it will not restore any previous internal state.

    I saw that setting.  First place I looked.  Thing is, since I didn't
    want it to always start at the same place, I thought that wouldn't
    work.  I thought that no matter what I clicked, it would open at that place.  Given you said that would work, I tried it.  I set it to /, or root, but if I click on a folder on the desktop, sure enough, it starts
    and opens the folder I clicked on.  Did that a few times just to be
    sure.  LOL  I also plugged in a USB stick, mounted it and then told the notification thingy to open in File Manager.  Yep, it opened right where
    it should.  I was looking for a instance setting or something since it
    kept copying other running instances and their tabs.  I wouldn't have
    ever thought to try that setting.

    They might want to explain that setting a little bit.  While I saw it, I certainly didn't expect it to behave this way.  I expected it to open at that location no matter how Dolphin was started. 

    Perhaps it’s actually a bug. Even if Dolphin is supposed to restore a previous session, it *should* open the location it is given by parameter.

    P. S.  Planning to try that checksum script soon.  It's a large number
    of files so it will take a long time to run.  I think you mentioned that
    if stopped, it will resume where it left off.

    Only if it creates checksums, because it knows by the existence of checksums where to resume. But if you want to read checksums and verify them, you need to use arguments to tell it how many directories to process and how many to skip at the beginning.

    Perhaps try it first with a few small directories to get a feel for its behaviour. The normal way to go is:

    dh -u [DIR] to create the checksum files
    dh [DIR] do read it back
    Use the --skip option to skip the given number of dirs at the beginning.

    Remember that by default it will not create checksums in directories that
    have subdirectories. I know this sounds a little strange, but for a
    hierarchy of music albums, this seemed sensible 10 years ago.

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  • From Peter Humphrey@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 13 12:00:01 2024
    On Thursday 12 September 2024 13:54:25 BST Dale wrote:

    This is fairly new and very consistent. It started a couple updates ago
    and I was hoping it was a bug and would be fixed. I'm starting to think
    it is a new feature. I've looked in preferences and can't find any
    setting related to this behavior.

    Is it related to the recent problem in sddm or plasma, in which things appear on the wrong desktops on startup, or all piled up on top of one another?

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  • From Peter Humphrey@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 13 13:00:02 2024
    On Friday 13 September 2024 11:03:08 BST Dale wrote:

    I notice another KDE release is on the way. It's unstable when it hits
    the tree but I run unstable for KDE and friends. It may have some fixes
    as well. Introduce a new feature, get half a dozen bugs to fix. Fix
    those and then repeat. LOL Isn't that the way software works???

    Should have a nice update to do this weekend.

    Good news - I've just installed it, and it does seem to have fixed my problem with misplaced windows. Just a quick look so far, but it seems good. I only have the one connected monitor, though.

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  • From Frank Steinmetzger@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 14 03:00:01 2024
    Am Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 01:19:00AM -0500 schrieb Dale:

    P. S.  Planning to try that checksum script soon.  It's a large number >> of files so it will take a long time to run.  I think you mentioned that >> if stopped, it will resume where it left off.
    Only if it creates checksums, because it knows by the existence of checksums
    where to resume. But if you want to read checksums and verify them, you need
    to use arguments to tell it how many directories to process and how many to
    skip at the beginning.

    Perhaps try it first with a few small directories to get a feel for its behaviour. The normal way to go is:

    dh -u [DIR] to create the checksum files
    dh [DIR] do read it back
    Use the --skip option to skip the given number of dirs at the beginning.

    Remember that by default it will not create checksums in directories that have subdirectories. I know this sounds a little strange, but for a hierarchy of music albums, this seemed sensible 10 years ago.


    Well, I read through the help page and settled on this.  I might have
    did this wrong.  ;-)

    /root/dh -c -F 1Checksums.md5 -v

    Right now I have the command in /root.  I just did a cd to the parent directory I wanted it to work on and then ran that command.  Right now,
    it is working on this bit.


    (dir 141 of 631)

    and

    (file  8079 of 34061)

    I am thinking about adding filesize information, but that would require updating the status line during the processing of a file instead of only between files. That’s not trivial, as it involves timers and threads.

    I was wondering tho, is there a way to make it put all the checksum
    files in one place, like a directory call checksums, and they just all
    go in there?

    Hm … from an algorithmic point of view, it would actually not be that complicated by creating a shortened filename from the source directory, but the real-world use seems a bit far-fetched. Checksums should be close to
    their data. If you have read errors for either, then the other is useless anyways. :D

    Or just a single file in the parent directory?  That way
    the files aren't in each directory.

    That’s what the -s option is for. This will create only one checksum file at the root level for each directory argument. So if you run `dh -us foo/ bar/`, then it will go into foo/, create one checksum file there and put all lines into that one file, even for subdirectories, and do the same in bar/.

    However, at the moment automatically detecting and properly verifying those files is still in the works. So I think you have to use the -s option or -F all to read them.

    Thing is, can I still just run it
    on one directory if I have a suspected bad one?

    Not with one checksum file at the root level for an entire tree. The way I would handle this case: run dh -u on the directory of interest and then compare the checksums in the root-level file and the newly created file with
    a diff tool. Or copy the lines from the existing checksum file, create a new file in the directory of interest, remove the directory part of the paths
    and then run dh on just that directory.

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