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So, removing Qt5 will break computers of many users, including my computer. >> In the course of many years of existence of Qt5 a large number of useful
programs have been created; not all of them have been ported to Qt6. Are we >> going to throw away all this wealth?
Is there a timeline for killing QT5 completely or will just QT5 be stuck at the
current version and patch level?
On Thu, 2025-01-02 at 03:13 -0800, Zoltan Puskas wrote:
There may be some confusion here. The list includes packages like www-client/vivaldi, which already support both versions. It is also sometimes possible to simply rebuild against Qt6 with no changes but not always.So, removing Qt5 will break computers of many users, including my computer. >>> In the course of many years of existence of Qt5 a large number of useful >>> programs have been created; not all of them have been ported to Qt6. Are we >>> going to throw away all this wealth?I have to agree with Andrey here, the list contains quite a few items that are
likely used by a lot of users and killing all these apps is going to be painful.
So, removing Qt5 will break computers of many users, including my computer. In the course of many years of existence of Qt5 a large number of useful programs have been created; not all of them have been ported to Qt6. Are we going to throw away all this wealth?
So, removing Qt5 will break computers of many users, including my computer. In the course of many years of existence of Qt5 a large number of useful programs have been created; not all of them have been ported to Qt6. Are we going to throw away all this wealth?
I have to agree with Andrey here, the list contains quite a few items that are
likely used by a lot of users and killing all these apps is going to be painful.
Here are some packages installed on my computer and (to various degrees) important for me which depend on Qt5
4. app-text/master-pdf-editor
The only tool for editing pdf files. I have to use it every time I check and correct proofs of my papers, i.e., rather often. There is no replacement.
On Wed, 01 Jan 2025, Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
If you recognise your package(s) in there, please drop Qt5 in favor of Qt6 aggressively. If there is no Qt6-based upstream release yet, bug upstream about it. They may not even know yet this is important.
So, removing Qt5 will break computers of many users, including my
computer.
[...]
I have to agree with Andrey here, the list contains quite a few items [...]
Can you provide a pointer to a Qt upstream page saying that Qt 5 is deprecated? Just for the case that the upstreams of my packages need
further convincing.
02.01.2025 11:22, James Le Cuirot пишет:
On Thu, 2025-01-02 at 03:13 -0800, Zoltan Puskas wrote:Yeah, to make this generated list more useful, would need to filter out
There may be some confusion here. The list includes packages like www-client/vivaldi, which already support both versions. It is also sometimes possible to simply rebuild against Qt6 with no changes but not always.
lines with suffix like `:!qt6`, or something like that.
There may be some confusion here. The list includes packages
like www-client/vivaldi, which already support both versions.
It is also sometimes possible to simply rebuild against Qt6
with no changes but not always.
When I updated to KDE 6 , I reluctantly had to drop Krusader
Here are some packages installed on my computer and (to various degrees) important for me which depend on Qt5
1. x11-wm/lumina
An excellent desktop environment. I use it for many years.
I contacted the upstream about the possibility to port it to Qt6. They
said that before that they have to port it from qmake to cmake (work underway), then they will consider the possibility of the Qt6 port.
2. media-sound/qmmp
An excellent misic player. The site says there is qmmp2 based on Qt6,
but I don't see in in Gentoo.
3. media-video/vlc
An excellent video played. Its GUI is Qt5 based.
4. app-text/master-pdf-editor
The only tool for editing pdf files. I have to use it every time I check
and correct proofs of my papers, i.e., rather often. There is no
replacement.
5. sci-visualization/gle
A very useful tool, its gui is Qt5 based. I use it practically every
day, it is essential for my main work. But I use the command-line tool; personally for me, GUI is not important.
6. app-text/doxygen
GUI is Qt5 based. Personally I don't use the GUI.
7. sci-geosciences/qmapshack
The best tool to support large collections of gpx tracks. There is a partially working Qt6 port: translations and the help system are broken
in it. Personally I can live without translations and the help system.
But stabilizing this version is out of question.
So, removing Qt5 will break computers of many users, including my
computer. In the course of many years of existence of Qt5 a large number
of useful programs have been created; not all of them have been ported
to Qt6. Are we going to throw away all this wealth?
So, removing Qt5 will break computers of many users, including my computer. >> In the course of many years of existence of Qt5 a large number of useful
programs have been created; not all of them have been ported to Qt6. Are we >> going to throw away all this wealth?
I have to agree with Andrey here, the list contains quite a few items that are
likely used by a lot of users and killing all these apps is going to be painful.
Is there a timeline for killing QT5 completely or will just QT5 be stuck at the
current version and patch level?
I understand that QT5 is considered deprecated, but doesn't KDE project still maintain QT 5.15 for the time being? Can't we just keep that version?
Even if we report bugs upstream, it may take time to port all these projects, especially the larger ones or if they are a single person project.
Here are some packages installed on my computer and (to various
degrees) important for me which depend on Qt5
Zoltan Puskas <zoltan@sinustrom.info> writes:
So, removing Qt5 will break computers of many users, including my computer.
In the course of many years of existence of Qt5 a large number of useful >> programs have been created; not all of them have been ported to Qt6. Are we
going to throw away all this wealth?
I have to agree with Andrey here, the list contains quite a few items that are
likely used by a lot of users and killing all these apps is going to be painful.
Is there a timeline for killing QT5 completely or will just QT5 be stuck at the
current version and patch level?
I understand that QT5 is considered deprecated, but doesn't KDE project still
maintain QT 5.15 for the time being? Can't we just keep that version?
Even if we report bugs upstream, it may take time to port all these projects,
especially the larger ones or if they are a single person project.
We best get started now then, which is the purpose of Andreas'
email. This is the warning to start filing those bugs and asking
upstreams to port if not done already. Not that we're going to last-rite
such packages tomorrow.
Qt5 base packages aren't the biggest worry even if we leave them semi-abandoned (not that qtcore isn't pretty quirky and already with a
lot of small issues that will likely get worse), albeit it'd be nice to
get to a few other Qt modules out of the equation as packages ideally get aggressively ported.
https://qa-reports.gentoo.org/output/genrdeps/rindex/dev-qt/qtscript