Hello,


I'm using the kotlin package since I wanted to use the kotlinc compiler,
and noticed that it lists following packages as dependencies

* ant
* libmaven-compiler-plugin-java
* libmaven-plugin-tools-java
* libmaven3-core-java


I'm not using ant or maven, so this install (through transitive
dependencies) over 300 MB of unnecessary data:

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Summary:
Upgrading: 0, Installing: 76, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 959
Download size: 69.8 MB
Space needed: 324 MB
----


If I force the installation without those packages, I get following summary:

----
Summary:
Upgrading: 0, Installing: 3, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 959
Download size: 0 B / 6,380 B
Space needed: 27.6 kB
----


Since the kotlin compiler does not depend on
libmaven-compiler-plugin-java libmaven-plugin-tools-java
libmaven3-core-java ant, would it make sense to move those dependencies
to recommended, or remove them altogether?

The complete list of installed transitive dependencies is

ant libcommons-parent-java
libjsoup-java libmaven3-core-java
libplexus-utils2-java
libaopalliance-java libcommons-text-java
libjsr305-java libplexus-ant-factory-java libplexus-velocity-java
libapache-pom-java libdoxia-core-java
libjtidy-java libplexus-archiver-java
libplexus-xml-java
libasm-java liberror-prone-java
libjuniversalchardet-java libplexus-bsh-factory-java
libqdox2-java
libatinject-jsr330-api-java libgeronimo-annotation-1.3-spec-java libmaven-archiver-java libplexus-build-api-java
libsisu-inject-java
libbsh-java libgeronimo-interceptor-3.0-spec-java libmaven-compiler-plugin-java libplexus-cipher-java
libsisu-plexus-java
libcdi-api-java libguava-java
libmaven-file-management-java libplexus-classworlds-java
libslf4j-java
libcommons-cli-java libguice-java
libmaven-jar-plugin-java libplexus-compiler-java
libsnappy-java
libcommons-codec-java libhttpclient-java
libmaven-parent-java libplexus-component-annotations-java libsnappy-jni
libcommons-collections3-java libhttpcore-java
libmaven-plugin-tools-java libplexus-container-default-java libtrove-intellij-java
libcommons-compress-java libjansi-java
libmaven-reporting-api-java libplexus-container-default1.5-java libvavr0-java
libcommons-io-java libjetbrains-annotations-java libmaven-resolver-java libplexus-interpolation-java libwagon-provider-api-java
libcommons-lang-java libjline3-java libmaven-shared-incremental-java libplexus-io-java
libxbean-reflect-java
libcommons-lang3-java libjna-java
libmaven-shared-io-java libplexus-languages-java
libxz-java
libcommons-logging-java libjna-jni
libmaven-shared-utils-java libplexus-sec-dispatcher-java
velocity

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Federico Kircheis wrote:

I'm using the kotlin package since I wanted to use the kotlinc compiler, and noticed that it lists following packages as dependencies

* ant
* libmaven-compiler-plugin-java
* libmaven-plugin-tools-java
* libmaven3-core-java

I'm not using ant or maven, so this install (through transitive
dependencies) over 300 MB of unnecessary data:

----
Summary:
Upgrading: 0, Installing: 76, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 959
Download size: 69.8 MB
Space needed: 324 MB
----

If I force the installation without those packages, I get following summary:

----
Summary:
Upgrading: 0, Installing: 3, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 959
Download size: 0 B / 6,380 B
Space needed: 27.6 kB
----

Since the kotlin compiler does not depend on libmaven-compiler-plugin-java libmaven-plugin-tools-java libmaven3-core-java ant, would it make sense to move those dependencies to recommended, or remove them altogether?

You could talk to the Debian Java Maintainers about that -- pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org
and they probably have opinions.



-dsr-

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