Gregory Forster wrote:

Hi,
ááá On Wednesdays, I volunteer at a Senior Center to teach computers.á Well, few, if any, showed up. I'má now known as, "Greg, the gadget guy." helping people with their cell phones, computers and tablets.á Well, last Wednesday, nobody showed up for anything.á So I alleviated my boredom by watching a YouTube video on Debian 12, about 10 essentials by Linux TV. I took notes that I applied at home. I now have flatpak/flathub installed. While in the terminal, in the root, I typed tasksel and a popup of different GUI desktops could be installed.á I chose MATE, CINNAMON, and XFCE.á So now, before I log on, after establishing myself as the user, I click a little icon in the
lower right corner of the screen and a menu pops up, giving me different choices of GUI desktops: GNOME, GNOME classic, MATE, CINNAMON, XFCE are the ones I looked at. I really like GNOME classic and would like to use that as my standard GUI desktop. Does this all sound, O.K.?

Experimentation is the best way to learn... unless you can't
deal with the consequences of a bad run. So I recommend that
you learn backup and restore procedures first, put those into
practice, and then have fun.

-dsr-

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Joe wrote:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Window_manager

Arch Linux, by the way, is based on Debian and has some excellent documentation, most of which applies to Debian itself.

I don't think anyone at the Arch project or the Debian project
would say that Arch is based on Debian.

It is certainly the case that their documentation is good, and
although not universally applicable to Debian packages, can be a
decent guide.

-dsr-

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On Wed, 14 May 2025 12:22:53 -0500
Gregory Forster <debian4greg@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
    On Wednesdays, I volunteer at a Senior Center to teach
computers. Well, few, if any, showed up. I'm  now known as, "Greg,
the gadget guy." helping people with their cell phones, computers and tablets.  Well, last Wednesday, nobody showed up for anything.  So I alleviated my boredom by watching a YouTube video on Debian 12, about
10 essentials by Linux TV. I took notes that I applied at home. I now
have flatpak/flathub installed. While in the terminal, in the root, I
typed tasksel and a popup of different GUI desktops could be
installed.  I chose MATE, CINNAMON, and XFCE.  So now, before I log
on, after establishing myself as the user, I click a little icon in
the lower right corner of the screen and a menu pops up, giving me
different choices of GUI desktops: GNOME, GNOME classic, MATE,
CINNAMON, XFCE are the ones I looked at. I really like GNOME classic
and would like to use that as my standard GUI desktop. Does this all
sound, O.K.?

Looks OK. As long as disc space isn't tight, and that's unlikely these
days.

You can play around much more than that: not everyone uses a desktop environment at all, just a window manager. I assume you have Synaptic installed, search for window manager. The desktops use them, so you
should have a few installed already. Many can be used directly, without
a desktop environment. Fewer resources are used that way, but you will
miss all the bells and whistles arranger around (usually) the edges of
your screen.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Window_manager

Arch Linux, by the way, is based on Debian and has some excellent documentation, most of which applies to Debian itself.

--
Joe

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On Wed, 14 May 2025 12:02:40 -0700
Van Snyder <van.snyder@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

(2) Could the maintainers of GDM and SDDM (and any other login
managers of which I'm unaware) please move the little icon to be
centered below the password box?

Possibly. I use LightDM, which has an accompanying package, lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings. It modifies one or more files in
/etc/lightdm/.

I expect there's a configuration file or two for other display
managers, and maybe GUI tools to manipulate them.

--
Does anybody read signatures any more?

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https://charlescurley.com/blog/

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On Wednesday, May 14th, 2025 at 11:23 AM, Gregory Forster <debian4greg@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesdays, I volunteer at a Senior Center to teach computers.
Well, few, if any, showed up. I'm now known as, "Greg, the gadget guy." helping people with their cell phones, computers and tablets. Well,
last Wednesday, nobody showed up for anything.

You might be talking about where I live: Frasier Meadows in Boulder, Colorado.

Most everything here is Windows and Google -- I'm glad to see a knowledgeable Debian fan volunteering to help those of the elderly persuasion. I'm a computer geek myself -- I have a degree in CS, I programmed for years, and I used to sysAdmin a little '
Net domain from my basement.

I hope you get a better turnout in the future, wherever you are, and thanks for helping -- we need it...

BTW: have you looked into the Proton-mail substitute for Gmail?

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Glenn English

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Glenn English writes:

have you looked into the Proton-mail substitute for Gmail?

Or Fastmail, which I'm quite happy with.
--
John Hasler
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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I'll second that! Fastmail is straightforward, reliable, and has decent support.
Rick

On Wed, May 14, 2025, at 1:38 PM, John Hasler wrote:

Glenn English writes:

have you looked into the Proton-mail substitute for Gmail?

Or Fastmail, which I'm quite happy with.
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John Hasler
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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