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Re: How can I test the graphics card?

From George at Clug@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 31 13:50:02 2024

Serkan,

I am assuming that this Nvidia video card is in a laptop?

Is your GUI using Wayland? If it is, for testing purposes, I recommend switching back to X11.

You may have a hardware fault?

Hoping that you do not have a hardware fault, I would recommend installing Nvidia proprietary drivers.

I would install and then run nvidia-detect and install the nvidia drivers it recommends.
# apt install nvidia-detect
# nvidia-detect
# apt install [package recommended by nvidia-detect]

If these drivers causes issues you should be able to remove the nvidia drivers by
# apt purge nvidia*

This Debian Wiki explains Nvidia proprietary driver installation better than I can:
https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

For testing Nvidia drivers I like to use glmark2
# apt install glmark2

If your GUI is using Wayland, then also install glmark2-wayland
# apt install glmark2 glmark2-wayland

$ glmark2
or
$ glmark2-wayland (for Wayland systems)

Hope this helps.

George.

On Tuesday, 31-12-2024 at 22:07 Serkan Kurt wrote:

Hi!
How can I test memory of the graphics card?
How can I test other features of the graphics card?
Is there free software for this purpose?

The menu texts in the "Blender" software are not readable. Sometimes
the system freezes while watching a video.

nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: CACHE_ERROR - ch 5 [systemd-logind[502]]
subc 0 mthd 0060 data beef0201

nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2) nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2) nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc00f
failed with error -2
nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc00f nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: init failed, -2
nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc103 (-2) nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc103 (-2) nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc103
failed with error -2
nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc103 nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: init failed, -2

My graphics card is NVIDIA Corporation G86M [GeForce 8600M GS] (rev a1). Debian 12 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Best regards...

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From Sven Joachim@21:1/5 to Stefan Monnier on Tue Dec 31 20:10:01 2024

On 2024-12-31 13:49 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:

"Your card is only supported by the 340 legacy drivers series, which
is only available up to buster."

For such old hardware you're probably better off *not* using the
proprietary driver.

Or graphics intensive software like blender. Their homepage mentions
that OpenGL 4.3 is required[1], but the GeForce 8600M GS only supports
OpenGL 3.3.

Cheers,
Sven

1. https://www.blender.org/download/requirements/

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From Hans@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 31 20:00:01 2024

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

Am Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2024, 19:27:58 CET schrieb Serkan Kurt:
Try this, as decribed here: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#sid-340[1]

WARNING! Pay attention, to install nothing else as described here and the needed dependencies
called from this two packages.

# apt update
# apt install nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver firmware-misc-nonfree

Do NOT update any other packages, even if aptitude is suggesting it. Most people in the past
believe, they must upgrade other packages, too.
This is NOT necessaryand break your system!

I suggest to install these two packages and theire dependencies, and remove the entres from
sid and testing back to "stable".

You can then try to build the 340xx packages (I am using module-assistant for it). If it builds,
you are lucky, then it will work, too.

Please note: If you got an Intel cpu with inbuild GPU, then you might need "bumblebee" or
"primusrun" for it, to activate the external NVidia GPU and deactivate the Intel GPU.

Note: In rare cases, you can also use the 390xx driver, but the 86M from Nvidia should work
with the 340xx.

The problem is NOT the module itself, the problem is the compiling. If the compile works, the
driver will work!

The reason is, that since 340xx in debian, the compiler was changed somehow by the
devolpers, so mostly the build fails. I suppose, they fixed it in sid.

Good luck!

Hans

Thank you for your suggestion. Unfortunately, I get a message like this.

"Your card is only supported by the 340 legacy drivers series, which
is only available up to buster."

George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info>, 31 Ara 2024 Sal, 20:27 tarihinde

şunu yazdı:

Serkan,

I am assuming that this Nvidia video card is in a laptop?

Is your GUI using Wayland? If it is, for testing purposes, I recommend switching back to X11.

You may have a hardware fault?

Hoping that you do not have a hardware fault, I would recommend installing Nvidia proprietary drivers.

I would install and then run nvidia-detect and install the nvidia drivers it recommends. # apt install nvidia-detect
# nvidia-detect
# apt install [package recommended by nvidia-detect]

If these drivers causes issues you should be able to remove the nvidia drivers by # apt purge nvidia*

This Debian Wiki explains Nvidia proprietary driver installation better than I can: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

For testing Nvidia drivers I like to use glmark2
# apt install glmark2

If your GUI is using Wayland, then also install glmark2-wayland
# apt install glmark2 glmark2-wayland

$ glmark2
or
$ glmark2-wayland (for Wayland systems)

Hope this helps.

George.

On Tuesday, 31-12-2024 at 22:07 Serkan Kurt wrote:

Hi!
How can I test memory of the graphics card?
How can I test other features of the graphics card?
Is there free software for this purpose?

The menu texts in the "Blender" software are not readable. Sometimes
the system freezes while watching a video.

nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: CACHE_ERROR - ch 5 [systemd-logind[502]]
subc 0 mthd 0060 data beef0201

nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2) nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2) nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc00f
failed with error -2

nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc00f

nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: init failed, -2
nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc103 (-2) nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc103 (-2) nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc103
failed with error -2
nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc103 nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: init failed, -2

My graphics card is NVIDIA Corporation G86M [GeForce 8600M GS] (rev a1). Debian 12 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Best regards...

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[1] https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#sid-340

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<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
</head>
<body>Am Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2024, 19:27:58 CET schrieb Serkan Kurt:
Try this, as decribed here:
<a href="https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#sid-340">https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#sid-340</a>
 WARNING! Pay attention, to install nothing else as described here and the needed dependencies called from this two packages. 
 # apt update
# apt install nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver firmware-misc-nonfree
 Do NOT update any other packages, even if aptitude is suggesting it. Most people in the past believe, they must upgrade other packages, too. 
This is NOT necessaryand break your system!
 I suggest to install these two packages and theire dependencies, and remove the entres from sid and testing back to "stable".
 You can then try to build the 340xx packages (I am using module-assistant for it). If it builds, you are lucky, then it will work, too.
 Please note: If you got an Intel cpu with inbuild GPU, then you might need  "bumblebee" or "primusrun" for it, to activate the external NVidia GPU and
deactivate the Intel GPU.
 Note: In rare cases, you can also use the 390xx driver, but the 86M from Nvidia should work with the 340xx.
 The problem is NOT the module itself, the problem is the compiling. If the compile works, the driver will work! 
 The reason is, that since 340xx in debian, the compiler was changed somehow by the devolpers, so mostly the build fails. I suppose, they fixed it in sid.
 Good luck!
 Hans
 > Thank you for your suggestion. Unfortunately, I get a message like this.
> > "Your card is only supported by the 340 legacy drivers series, which
> is only available up to buster."
> > George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info>, 31 Ara 2024 Sal, 20:27 tarihinde
> > şunu yazdı:
> > Serkan,
> > 
> > I am assuming that this Nvidia video card is in a laptop?
> > 
> > Is your GUI using Wayland?  If it is, for testing purposes, I recommend
> > switching back to X11.
> > 
> > You may have a hardware fault?
> > 
> > Hoping that you do not have a hardware fault, I would recommend installing
> > Nvidia proprietary drivers.
> > 
> > I would install and then run nvidia-detect and install the nvidia drivers
> > it recommends. # apt install nvidia-detect
> > # nvidia-detect
> > # apt install [package recommended by nvidia-detect]
> > 
> > If these drivers causes issues you should be able to remove the nvidia
> > drivers by # apt purge nvidia*
> > 
> > This Debian Wiki explains Nvidia proprietary driver installation better
> > than I can: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
> > 
> > For testing Nvidia drivers I like to use glmark2
> > # apt install glmark2
> > 
> > If your GUI is using Wayland, then also install glmark2-wayland
> > # apt install glmark2 glmark2-wayland
> > 
> > $ glmark2
> > or
> > $ glmark2-wayland      (for Wayland systems)
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > George.
> > 
> > On Tuesday, 31-12-2024 at 22:07 Serkan Kurt wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > > How can I test memory of the graphics card?
> > > How can I test other features of the graphics card?
> > > Is there free software for this purpose?
> > > 
> > > The menu texts in the "Blender" software are not readable. Sometimes
> > > the system freezes while watching a video.
> > > 
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: CACHE_ERROR - ch 5 [systemd-logind[502]]
> > > subc 0 mthd 0060 data beef0201
> > > 
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2)
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2)
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc00f
> > > failed with error -2
> > > 
> > >  nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc00f
> > > 
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: init failed, -2
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc103 (-2)
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc103 (-2)
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc103
> > > failed with error -2
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc103
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: init failed, -2
> > > 
> > > My graphics card is NVIDIA Corporation G86M [GeForce 8600M GS] (rev a1).
> > > Debian 12 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> > > 
> > > Best regards...
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From Stefan Monnier@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 31 19:50:01 2024

"Your card is only supported by the 340 legacy drivers series, which
is only available up to buster."

For such old hardware you're probably better off *not* using the
proprietary driver.

Stefan

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