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  • Re: Gene and networkmanager (was: Re: new computer arriving soon)

    From gene heskett@21:1/5 to Max Nikulin on Sun Jan 5 17:20:01 2025
    On 1/4/25 22:47, Max Nikulin wrote:
    On 04/01/2025 17:19, gene heskett wrote:
    On 1/3/25 22:51, Max Nikulin wrote:
    On 02/01/2025 23:05, pocket@homemail.com wrote:
    Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2025 at 10:38 AM "Max Nikulin"
    On 02/01/2025 10:41, pocket@homemail.com wrote:
    Lookup Gene and networkmanager,

    I wrote my previous just to show that these pair of keywords may lead
    to almost anything. This time I am more interested in pocket's case.
    What prevented some valuable contribution to the Debian project?
    The total lack of being able to do it anonymously.

    Do you really believe it is a precise enough reference? My
    impression is
    that despite NetworkManager can easily handle his cases, he often
    demonstrate unmotivated aggression against NetworkManager developers. >>>>> The reasons are unclear to me. Perhaps because armbian developers
    intentionally broke a way to configure network without NetworkManager >>>>> while the same approach works fine on Debian.

    It was debian and your talking to the one that solved his issue.

    I mean some Chinese 3d printer:
    gene heskett. Re: time question, as in ntp? Fri, 1 Dec 2023 05:42:35
    -0500.
    <https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/c10ab2f9-12d5-4f40-9da4-509d62906213@shentel.net>


    That has been a src of confusion here with my mixed hdwe network.
    ntpsec work's fine as a 2nd level src running on this I5 machine

    Gene, you are quite successful in moving focus to some unrelated
    topic. In that thread, besides NTP issues, you were struggling with
    network configuration. I was not going to cite your message another
    time, but since you jumped in, could you, please, explain:

    1. Why instead of calling to support of the vendor manufactured that
    3d printer you were asking for help on debian-user?

    2. Why instead of inspecting what crap (likely unrelated to even
    armbian) was stuffed into that device by the vendor you started to
    blame NetworkManager?

    On 01/12/2023 17:42, gene heskett wrote:
    On 11/30/23 23:18, Max Nikulin wrote:

    On 01/12/2023 10:24, gene heskett wrote:
    If you would bother to read what I posted, you would have seen
    that networkmangler claimed credit for that overwritten /e/n/i file.
    /etc/network/interfaces. I thought that short hand was self-explanatory.

    Then, please, explain clearly what is "networkmangler", what is
    "/e/n/i",
    and what particular evidences you have that namely "networkmangler"
     overwrites "/e/n/i".
    shorthand for

    =NetworkManager overwrites /etc/network/interfaces. Sheesh, part of the
    "slang-guage" for decades.

    MetworkManager has well earned that alias. I have made it a habit to
    remove the x attribute of that headache.


    .

    Cheers, Gene, CET.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis

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