On Saturday, 28-12-2024 at 08:08 Frank McCormick wrote:
I am running Trixie full updated.
I have been having lockups quite often running Firefox under the latest kernel.
My wife has been experiencing Firefox lockups on Debian Bookworm (KDE Plasma when using either Wayland or X11, we tested the issue on both).
Please read my below comments and let me know if there is any similarity, or if you have been able to detect any pattern about how the issue occurs.
(lockup - Total non response from the PC, not even pressing the power button for three seconds initiates a shutdown)
The lock ups were so annoying she have given up using Firefox, and now uses Chromium.
The lockup usually occured when a web page changes, for example when new ad is being automatically displayed, or opening a new page in a tab. Opening a page can be to a page that can be opened without causing an issue, but this instance of "opening"
causes the PC to freeze.
The lockup can occur when she was not using the web page, but noticed the a web page changing a displayed ad.
However even Chromium occasionally locks up (every two or three weeks).
She does have many, many tabs open at a time. If she keeps tabs down to less than 10, the issue is less frequent (I think, hard to confirm).
I have wondered if the issue has to do with web pages. I think some ads (which show randomly, based on the ad display systems) are badly coded, and cause some kind of memory/process leak.
Another thought was a fault in the coding of the web browser?
After a reboot, the Ext4 partition has to be repaired, automatically by the login process. My concern is if this happens too frequently, data on the disk drive may become unrepairable, requiring a reinstallation of the OS.
I like the idea put forward of having a ssh connection open. But I would need to start the ssh session from another PC every day we start her PC, just waiting for the one time it locks up.
Each time the PC is locked up, my wife asks me to come and look at it (if I am home at the time), and one time I was delayed coming, by the time I came, the PC started responding normally. This has only happened the once, and since then I have tried
waiting for a while but her PC never started working again by itself.
It is challenging to fault find as there is never a time that web browsers are not loaded, even when she is playing games. And the issue occurs very infrequently.
I have also experienced the issue of lockups on my PC (Bookworm and XFCE), but so infrequently, as in once or twice a year. I usually have less that 10 pages loaded at a time, and most of my web pages have static ads that are not automatically updated.
I usually close off web pages once having read and saved any information I was looking for. I might play games for a short time once or twice a week? So very different usage.
I do have a Debian Trixie KDE Plasma PC I occasionally use, and again I would normally use Firefox but have not experienced lock ups on it. I might keep it running for a number of days to see what happens? But that is a lot of power wasted just waiting
for an issue and because I would not be actively using it, it is likely not to lock up.
Hardware types could be a contributor, but there would be so many different hardware combinations. Like snowflakes, no two PCs are the same (lol).
George.
The lockups are complete, even REISUB doesn't work - the computer is completely unresponsive.
I have gone back to the previous kernel and things run smoothly.
This is inxi -F
System: Host: franklin Kernel: 6.11.10-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.2.3.2
Distro: Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid Machine: Type: Desktop System:
LENOVO product: 5536E2F v: ThinkCentre M90p serial: <superuser
required> Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A serial: <superuser required> BIOS: LENOVO v: 5JKT47AUS date: 07/13/2010
CPU: Info: dual core model: Intel Core i5 660 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
cache: L2: 512 KiB Speed (MHz): avg: 1197 min/max: 1197/3326
cores: 1: 1197 2: 1197 3: 1197 4: 1197 Graphics: Device-1: Intel
Core Processor Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.15 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: EGL
v: 1.5 drivers: crocus,swrast platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.5 compat-v: 2.1 vendor: intel mesa v: 24.2.8-1
renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics (ILK) Audio: Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
API: ALSA v: k6.11.10-amd64 status: kernel-api Server-1: PipeWire v:
1.2.7 status: active Network: Device-1: Intel 82578DM Gigabit Network driver: e1000e IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 44:87:fc:d8:3b:53 Drives: Local Storage: total: 912.89 GiB used: 62.23
GiB (6.8%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37480G size: 447.13 GiB
ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Seagate model: ST3500418AS size: 465.76 GiB
type: USB Partition:
ID-1: / size: 228.61 GiB used: 8.65 GiB (3.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
Swap: Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 59.0 C mobo: N/A Fan Speeds
(rpm): N/A Info:
Memory: total: 8 GiB note: est. available: 7.44 GiB used: 1.13 GiB
(15.2%) Processes: 177
Uptime: 33m
Shell: Bash
inxi: 3.3.36
I am at a loss to debug this. Has anyone else reported problems with
6.12.6 ?
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Frank McCormick
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