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    From Soren Stoutner@21:1/5 to Manuel Guerra on Mon Jul 29 22:27:32 2024
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    Manuel,

    Everything looks good to me. I submitted the package. Because it is a new package, it will
    go through the NEW queue to be manually reviewed by one of the FTP Masters. If we have
    done our work well it should be accepted without comment.

    You will receive an email shortly notifying you it has been processed into the NEW queue.
    You can follow the NEW queue status at:

    https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html

    Once your package has been approved, you will be able to see an overview of the health of
    the package in Debian at:

    https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/baby

    (currently this URL is not valid)

    In the future, when you have updates, just shoot me an email and I can sponsor them.
    Also, I would recommend you consider becoming a Debian Maintainer (DM). It is a bit of
    work, and you probably want to become involved with several different packages, but it is
    rewarding. DMs can be granted upload rights to specific packages they have a track record
    of handling with expertise. So, as a DM you could be granted permissions to update baby
    and other packages your work on without the need of having to get a DD to sponsor them.

    https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer[1]

    Soren

    On Monday, July 29, 2024 10:05:24 PM MST Manuel Guerra wrote:
    Soren

    Sorry, I was very confused!

    I will implement this: 3. Handle the Debian packaging on Salsa.

    The package has a new upload 1.0.58 with all the changes aplied, please
    when you have a free time take a look on it.

    Regards,
    Manuel

    El lun, 29 de jul. de 2024 19:54, Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org>

    escribió:
    Manuel,

    On Monday, July 29, 2024 3:18:33 PM MST Manuel Guerra wrote:
    Soren

    I see in your output version 1.0.55, actual version is 1.0.57, please use the repository at https://github.com/manuwarfare/baby.git

    By this way I actually build good using sbuild

    I (re)moved the package files from Salsa to Github :-(

    I’m curious as to why you decided to do this (see more discussion below).

    Please advise me if the issues was solved. Thanks!
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    <body><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Manuel,</p>
    <br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Everything looks good to me.&nbsp; I submitted the package.&nbsp; Because it is a new package, it will go through the NEW queue to be manually reviewed by one of the FTP Masters.&
    nbsp; If we have done our work well it should be accepted without comment.</p> <br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">You will receive an email shortly notifying you it has been processed into the NEW queue.&nbsp; You can follow the NEW queue status at:</p>
    <br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html</p>
    <br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Once your package has been approved, you will be able to see an overview of the health of the package in Debian at:</p>
    <br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/baby</p>
    <br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">(currently this URL is not valid)</p>
    <br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">In the future, when you have updates, just shoot me an email and I can sponsor them.&nbsp; Also, I would recommend you consider becoming a Debian Maintainer (DM).&nbsp; It is a
    bit of work, and you probably want to become involved with several different packages, but it is rewarding.&nbsp; DMs can be granted upload rights to specific packages they have a track record of handling with expertise.&nbsp; So, as a DM you could be
    granted permissions to update baby and other packages your work on without the need of having to get a DD to sponsor them.</p>
    <br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;"><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer">https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer</a></p>
    <br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Soren</p>
    <br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">On Monday, July 29, 2024 10:05:24 PM MST Manuel Guerra wrote:</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; Soren</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; Sorry, I was very confused!</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; I will implement this: 3.&nbsp; Handle the Debian packaging on Salsa.</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; The package has a new upload 1.0.58 with all the changes aplied, please</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; when you have a free time take a look on it.</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; Regards,</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; Manuel</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; El lun, 29 de jul. de 2024 19:54, Soren Stoutner &lt;soren@debian.org&gt;</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; escribió:</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; Manuel,</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; On Monday, July 29, 2024 3:18:33 PM MST Manuel Guerra wrote:</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; Soren</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; I see in your output version 1.0.55, actual version is 1.0.57, please use</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; the repository at https://github.com/manuwarfare/baby.git</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; By this way I actually build good using sbuild</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; I (re)moved the package files from Salsa to Github :-(</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; I’m curious as to why you decided to do this (see more discussion below).</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; Please advise me if the issues was solved. Thanks!</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; This did resolve the build problem.&nbsp; However, it introduced a new problem.</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; W: baby source: no-debian-changes</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; This non-native package makes no changes to the upstream sources in</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; the</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; Debian-related files.</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; Maybe a mistake was made when the upstream tarball was created, or</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; maybe</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; this package is really a native package but was built non-native by</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; mistake.</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; Debian packaging is sometimes maintained as part of upstream, but</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; that is</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; not recommended as best practice. Please make this package native, if</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; the</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; software is only for Debian. Otherwise, please remove the debian</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; directory</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; from upstream releases and add it in the Debian packaging.</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; Format 1.0 packages are subject to the restriction that the diff</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; cannot</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; remove files from the debian directory. For Format 3.0 packages, the</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; debian directory is automatically purged during unpacking.</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; Visibility: warning</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; Show-Always: no</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; Check: files/artifact</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; N:&nbsp;&nbsp; Renamed from: empty-debian-diff</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; Basically, a non-native package like yours should not contain a debian</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; directory in the orig.tar.gz.&nbsp; That directory should only exist in the</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; debian.tar.xz.&nbsp; That means that uscan needs to point to a repository or a</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; tarball that doesn’t contain a debian directory.</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; There are several ways you can do this (the following is probably not an</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; exhaustive list).</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; 1.&nbsp; Use a separate branch in your upstream repository for the Debian</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; packaging.</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; 2.&nbsp; Use a separate repository on github for the Debian packaging.</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; 3.&nbsp; Handle the Debian packaging on Salsa.</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; For the purposes of sponsoring your package, it doesn’t matter to me which</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; of</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; these solutions you choose.&nbsp; For me personally, where I am both upstream</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; and</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; the package maintainer, I have gone with option 3.</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; https://gitweb.stoutner.com/?p=PrivacyBrowserPC.git;a=tree</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; https://salsa.debian.org/soren/privacybrowser</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; However, it is fine if you decide not to use Salsa for any reasons that</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; are</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; important to you.</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; Soren</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; --</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; Soren Stoutner</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; &gt; soren@debian.org</p>
    <br /><br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">-- </p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Soren Stoutner</p>
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">soren@debian.org</p>
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  • From Phil Wyett@21:1/5 to Soren Stoutner on Tue Jul 30 12:30:01 2024
    Hi Manuel,

    Congratulations on creating baby and preparing it to be now in the NEW queue and ready to enter Debian. Your skill, perseverance and attitude do you great credit.

    Hope to work with you in and around Debian in the future.

    Regards

    Phil


    On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 22:27 -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:
    Manuel,

    Everything looks good to me.  I submitted the package.  Because it is a new package, it will go through the NEW queue to be manually reviewed by one of the FTP Masters.  If we have done our work well it should be accepted without comment.

    You will receive an email shortly notifying you it has been processed into the NEW queue.  You can follow the NEW queue status at:

    https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html

    Once your package has been approved, you will be able to see an overview of the health of the package in Debian at:

    https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/baby

    (currently this URL is not valid)

    In the future, when you have updates, just shoot me an email and I can sponsor them.  Also, I would recommend you consider becoming a Debian Maintainer (DM).  It is a bit of work, and you probably want to become involved with several different packages, but it is rewarding.  DMs can be granted upload rights to specific packages they have a track record of handling with expertise.  So, as a DM you could be granted permissions to update baby and other packages your work on without the need of having to
    get a DD to sponsor them.

    https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer

    Soren

    On Monday, July 29, 2024 10:05:24 PM MST Manuel Guerra wrote:
    Soren

    Sorry, I was very confused!

    I will implement this: 3.  Handle the Debian packaging on Salsa.

    The package has a new upload 1.0.58 with all the changes aplied, please when you have a free time take a look on it.

    Regards,
    Manuel

    El lun, 29 de jul. de 2024 19:54, Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org>

    escribió:
    Manuel,

    On Monday, July 29, 2024 3:18:33 PM MST Manuel Guerra wrote:
    Soren

    I see in your output version 1.0.55, actual version is 1.0.57, please use
    the repository at https://github.com/manuwarfare/baby.git

    By this way I actually build good using sbuild

    I (re)moved the package files from Salsa to Github :-(

    I’m curious as to why you decided to do this (see more discussion below).

    Please advise me if the issues was solved. Thanks!

    This did resolve the build problem.  However, it introduced a new problem.

    W: baby source: no-debian-changes
    N:
    N:   This non-native package makes no changes to the upstream sources in
    the
    N:   Debian-related files.
    N:
    N:   Maybe a mistake was made when the upstream tarball was created, or maybe
    N:   this package is really a native package but was built non-native by
    N:   mistake.
    N:
    N:   Debian packaging is sometimes maintained as part of upstream, but that is
    N:   not recommended as best practice. Please make this package native, if
    the
    N:   software is only for Debian. Otherwise, please remove the debian directory
    N:   from upstream releases and add it in the Debian packaging.
    N:
    N:   Format 1.0 packages are subject to the restriction that the diff cannot
    N:   remove files from the debian directory. For Format 3.0 packages, the
    N:   debian directory is automatically purged during unpacking.
    N:
    N:   Visibility: warning
    N:   Show-Always: no
    N:   Check: files/artifact
    N:   Renamed from: empty-debian-diff

    Basically, a non-native package like yours should not contain a debian directory in the orig.tar.gz.  That directory should only exist in the debian.tar.xz.  That means that uscan needs to point to a repository or a
    tarball that doesn’t contain a debian directory.

    There are several ways you can do this (the following is probably not
    an
    exhaustive list).

    1.  Use a separate branch in your upstream repository for the Debian packaging.

    2.  Use a separate repository on github for the Debian packaging.

    3.  Handle the Debian packaging on Salsa.

    For the purposes of sponsoring your package, it doesn’t matter to me which
    of
    these solutions you choose.  For me personally, where I am both
    upstream
    and
    the package maintainer, I have gone with option 3.

    https://gitweb.stoutner.com/?p=PrivacyBrowserPC.git;a=tree

    https://salsa.debian.org/soren/privacybrowser

    However, it is fine if you decide not to use Salsa for any reasons that are
    important to you.

    Soren

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