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Can we agree on calling Debian Enhancement Proposals DEP-N with a dash?

My eyes get sore when looking at commit messages like these:

* cd4d154 DEP 15: initial draft
* f54478c DEP8: Fix link to current specification
* 1f20e9d DEP-14: Version -> refname mangling: Escape dots

Results today:

https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/15
Unify DEP spelling with a space instead of dash (e.g. "DEP0")
= +7 (-0)

https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/14
Unify DEP spelling with a space instead of dash (e.g. "DEP 0")
= +2 (-7)

https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/13
Unify DEP spelling with a dash instead of a space (e.g. "DEP-0")
= +22 (-4)

I changed my personal preference from DEP-0 to DEP0 as I now consider
DEP0 the best option based as I have seen so much of RFC822, dep3,
dep8 and DEP14 in use in many places. However, that +22 for DEP-0 is
pretty large majority so I have to conclude it won.

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On Wed Dec 18, 2024 at 2:17 AM GMT, Otto Kekäläinen wrote:

https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/13
Unify DEP spelling with a dash instead of a space (e.g. "DEP-0")
= +22 (-4)

This leaves the door open for us to migrate DEPs to JIRA in the future.


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On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 06:17:47PM -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote:

I changed my personal preference from DEP-0 to DEP0 as I now consider
DEP0 the best option based as I have seen so much of RFC822, dep3,
dep8 and DEP14 in use in many places. However, that +22 for DEP-0 is
pretty large majority so I have to conclude it won.

"it won", yes, but what did it win? nothing relevant IMO, and I voted.

the sample is way too small to be meaningful, for a start. then his poll
was hardly announced anywhere. etc pp.


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I changed my personal preference from DEP-0 to DEP0 as I now consider
DEP0 the best option based as I have seen so much of RFC822, dep3,
dep8 and DEP14 in use in many places. However, that +22 for DEP-0 is
pretty large majority so I have to conclude it won.

"it won", yes, but what did it win? nothing relevant IMO, and I voted.

the sample is way too small to be meaningful, for a start. then his poll
was hardly announced anywhere. etc pp.

What sample is large enough? I thought getting 30-40 people respond on
such a topic is pretty good, but glad to read any concrete suggestions/requirements for a good decision-making process for DEP
changes. Even though this decision is rather small, hearing your (and
others) thoughts on how to make good decisions is valuable for the
future.

I am also happy to wait longer if you want to do better announcements,
or I can execute your announcement requests if you have a vision of
what is sufficiently beyond "hardly anywhere" yet not spammy.

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On Wednesday, December 18, 2024 9:26:28 AM MST Otto Kekäläinen wrote:

I changed my personal preference from DEP-0 to DEP0 as I now consider DEP0 the best option based as I have seen so much of RFC822, dep3,
dep8 and DEP14 in use in many places. However, that +22 for DEP-0 is pretty large majority so I have to conclude it won.

"it won", yes, but what did it win? nothing relevant IMO, and I voted.

the sample is way too small to be meaningful, for a start. then his poll was hardly announced anywhere. etc pp.

What sample is large enough? I thought getting 30-40 people respond on
such a topic is pretty good, but glad to read any concrete suggestions/requirements for a good decision-making process for DEP
changes. Even though this decision is rather small, hearing your (and
others) thoughts on how to make good decisions is valuable for the
future.

I am also happy to wait longer if you want to do better announcements,
or I can execute your announcement requests if you have a vision of
what is sufficiently beyond "hardly anywhere" yet not spammy.

My personal feeling is that -devel is the correct place to raise this discussion (and a Salsa MR is the correct place to vote on it). Everyone who wanted to participate had the chance to do so. I don’t see any reason to wait
before moving forward.

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