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Hello,
today I decided to upgrade from bookworm to trixie/testing[1][2]. I ran
the upgrade in a gnome-terminal, and of course all gnome terminals in
the system crashed halfway through the upgrade[1][3].
Unexpectedly, apt and dpkg kept doing their thing in their own headless wonderland. I tried to track progress via top and pstree, killed a
couple of whiptail processes[4], and eventually decided to kill apt and restart things from a new terminal.
I'm not sure how to start reporting bugs here. gnome-terminal should
clearly not have crashed (and I do not know why it did, and I'm not sure
I want to go through all the trouble to setup a bullworm[2] VM with
gnome and upgrade it to trixie to see if it crashed again.
At the same time, it was surprising that apt and dpkg continued unfazed
after the terminal died. That may be easier to reproduce: start doing something with apt and kill gnome-terminal. I still need a bookseye[2]
VM with gnome to try that out, and I have an annoying cold, so it's not something I'd embark on right this afternoon[5].
Not sure there's much more to be done here, given the complexity of the
whole stack, and especially if this affected just me just this once. If
it doesn't, this mail can act a friendly "hey, it wasn't just you" for a fellow traveler.
Trixie otherwise just works, and thank us all for it! <3
Enrico
[1] One reason was to see if gnome is less infuriating[3]
[2] One reason was to finally get out of release names starting with
'b', which have been confusing the hell out of me for half of a
decade
[3] Spoiler warning: not particularly
[4] Likely warnings that this or that go or rust program or qt chromium
embedding monster cannot be supported by the Security Team, for
which I have heartfelt support and which however stopped the
upgrade flow at least 5 times
[5] Do we have a thing that clones the running system into a throwaway
VM?
today I decided to upgrade from bookworm to trixie/testing[1][2]. I ran
the upgrade in a gnome-terminal, and of course all gnome terminals in
the system crashed halfway through the upgrade[1][3].
On 29 Dec 2024, at 20:20, Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org> wrote:
Hello,
today I decided to upgrade from bookworm to trixie/testing[1][2]. I ran
the upgrade in a gnome-terminal, and of course all gnome terminals in
the system crashed halfway through the upgrade[1][3].
Unexpectedly, apt and dpkg kept doing their thing in their own headless wonderland. I tried to track progress via top and pstree, killed a
couple of whiptail processes[4], and eventually decided to kill apt and restart things from a new terminal.
I'm not sure how to start reporting bugs here. gnome-terminal should
clearly not have crashed (and I do not know why it did, and I'm not sure
I want to go through all the trouble to setup a bullworm[2] VM with
gnome and upgrade it to trixie to see if it crashed again.
At the same time, it was surprising that apt and dpkg continued unfazed
after the terminal died. That may be easier to reproduce: start doing something with apt and kill gnome-terminal. I still need a bookseye[2]
VM with gnome to try that out, and I have an annoying cold, so it's not something I'd embark on right this afternoon[5].
Not sure there's much more to be done here, given the complexity of the
whole stack, and especially if this affected just me just this once. If
it doesn't, this mail can act a friendly "hey, it wasn't just you" for a fellow traveler.
Trixie otherwise just works, and thank us all for it! <3
Enrico
[1] One reason was to see if gnome is less infuriating[3]
[2] One reason was to finally get out of release names starting with
'b', which have been confusing the hell out of me for half of a
decade
[3] Spoiler warning: not particularly
[4] Likely warnings that this or that go or rust program or qt chromium
embedding monster cannot be supported by the Security Team, for
which I have heartfelt support and which however stopped the
upgrade flow at least 5 times
[5] Do we have a thing that clones the running system into a throwaway
VM?
--
GPG key: 4096R/634F4BD1E7AD5568 2009-05-08 Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org>
[5] Do we have a thing that clones the running system into a throwaway
VM?
Unexpectedly, apt and dpkg kept doing their thing in their own headless >wonderland. I tried to track progress via top and pstree, killed a
couple of whiptail processes[4], and eventually decided to kill apt and >restart things from a new terminal.
today I decided to upgrade from bookworm to trixie/testing[1][2]. I ran
the upgrade in a gnome-terminal, and of course all gnome terminals in
the system crashed halfway through the upgrade[1][3].
not much consolation, but: i supose this is why the release-notes
recommend upgrading inside screen (see also: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1035401)
At the same time, it was surprising that apt and dpkg continued unfazed
after the terminal died. That may be easier to reproduce: start doing something with apt and kill gnome-terminal. I still need a bookseye[2]
VM with gnome to try that out, and I have an annoying cold, so it's not something I'd embark on right this afternoon[5].