• They say, "Red Bull closing in on Liam Lawson swap with Yuki Tsunoda"

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 25 16:09:47 2025
    from https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-closing-in-on-liam-lawson-swap-with-yuki-tsunoda-for-japanese-gp/10707118/

    Red Bull closing in on Liam Lawson swap with Yuki Tsunoda for Japanese GP Luckless Lawson set for the drop and Tsunoda poised to finally get his
    chance to shine in Red Bull's main team.
    Ben Hunt
    Ben Hunt
    Mar 25, 2025, 3:04 PM


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    Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing
    Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing

    Photo by: Sam Bloxham / Motorsport Images

    Yuki Tsunoda is in line for a call up to Red Bull’s F1 team for next
    week’s Japanese Grand Prix - just as Motorsport exclusively reported
    last Sunday.

    Lawson has come under pressure after making a difficult start to the
    season, crashing out of the Australian GP and was a lowly 15th place in
    China. The New Zealander has struggled to adjust to the RB21, which has
    prone to unpredictable handling and lacking in grip, which is not
    inspiring confidence. His teammate, however, four-time world champion
    Max Verstappen has fared better, but has still conceded he faces a
    mammoth task in retaining the title this season driving the RB21.

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  • From pP85PrR@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 25 20:10:48 2025
    On 2025-03-25 7:09 PM, a425couple wrote:
    from
    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-closing-in-on-liam-lawson- swap-with-yuki-tsunoda-for-japanese-gp/10707118/

    Red Bull closing in on Liam Lawson swap with Yuki Tsunoda for Japanese GP Luckless Lawson set for the drop and Tsunoda poised to finally get his
    chance to shine in Red Bull's main team.
    Ben Hunt
    Ben Hunt
    Mar 25, 2025, 3:04 PM


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    Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing
    Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing

    Photo by: Sam Bloxham / Motorsport Images

    Yuki Tsunoda is in line for a call up to Red Bull’s F1 team for next week’s Japanese Grand Prix - just as Motorsport exclusively reported
    last Sunday.

    Lawson has come under pressure after making a difficult start to the
    season, crashing out of the Australian GP and was a lowly 15th place in China. The New Zealander has struggled to adjust to the RB21, which has
    prone to unpredictable handling and lacking in grip, which is not
    inspiring confidence. His teammate, however, four-time world champion
    Max Verstappen has fared better, but has still conceded he faces a
    mammoth task in retaining the title this season driving the RB21.

    I suspect that Tsunoda will fare little better than Lawson in the Red
    Bull car.

    As has been mentioned before, Tsunoda was barely better than Lawson when
    they were teammates. Any hope that he will pull some performance out of
    the bag at Red Bull is surely faint.

    Max has managed to deal with the Red Bull car as well as he has because
    -- and I hate to admit it -- he is a far better driver than most of the
    field, and certainly better than Perez, Lawson or Tsunoda.

    One might even suggest that for anyone other than Max, getting a seat in
    the Red Bull car is a career kiss of death.

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 26 14:05:04 2025
    On 26/03/2025 12:09 pm, a425couple wrote:
    from
    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-closing-in-on-liam-lawson- swap-with-yuki-tsunoda-for-japanese-gp/10707118/

    Red Bull closing in on Liam Lawson swap with Yuki Tsunoda for Japanese GP Luckless Lawson set for the drop and Tsunoda poised to finally get his
    chance to shine in Red Bull's main team.
    Ben Hunt
    Ben Hunt
    Mar 25, 2025, 3:04 PM


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    Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing
    Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing

    Photo by: Sam Bloxham / Motorsport Images

    Yuki Tsunoda is in line for a call up to Red Bull’s F1 team for next week’s Japanese Grand Prix - just as Motorsport exclusively reported
    last Sunday.

    Lawson has come under pressure after making a difficult start to the
    season, crashing out of the Australian GP and was a lowly 15th place in China. The New Zealander has struggled to adjust to the RB21, which has
    prone to unpredictable handling and lacking in grip, which is not
    inspiring confidence. His teammate, however, four-time world champion
    Max Verstappen has fared better, but has still conceded he faces a
    mammoth task in retaining the title this season driving the RB21.

    If true, brutal. But 'Li-um' hasn't done much to help himself.

    And it's not really two races, it is one. The opener was simply a random crap-shoot.

    Puts Perez's decline in perspective a bit too, as the car was tuned increasingly towards VERs specific preferences (or abilities).

    --
    geoff

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  • From Phil Carmody@21:1/5 to Mark on Wed Mar 26 16:28:01 2025
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> writes:
    pP85PrR <darryl_johnson@rogers.com> wrote:
    One might even suggest that for anyone other than Max, getting a seat in
    the Red Bull car is a career kiss of death.

    2. You have a better-than-even chance that you'll underperform in
    the car, and it could be career-ending.

    You say that, but I like what Albon's been doing recently. I also think
    that Gasly's unceremonious bumping caused him no long-term harm; RB may
    have pushed him, but they also provided the safety net, and he became a
    better driver in that time.

    I think I'm more positive about Tsunoda than many here; of course he's
    no wunderkind, but I think he's a driver that has continued to learn and improve. Alas, he does it at a pace that's not a good fit for the main
    team.

    Phil
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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to Mark on Thu Mar 27 11:54:25 2025
    On 26/03/2025 11:08 pm, Mark wrote:
    pP85PrR <darryl_johnson@rogers.com> wrote:

    As has been mentioned before, Tsunoda was barely better than Lawson when
    they were teammates. Any hope that he will pull some performance out of
    the bag at Red Bull is surely faint.

    Max has managed to deal with the Red Bull car as well as he has because
    -- and I hate to admit it -- he is a far better driver than most of the
    field, and certainly better than Perez, Lawson or Tsunoda.

    One might even suggest that for anyone other than Max, getting a seat in
    the Red Bull car is a career kiss of death.

    Max *is* a better driver than most of the field,

    Undoubtedly. But it would be interesting to see how he goes in a car
    other than the RB, that may not be so specifically tweaked to him.

    --
    geoff

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  • From keithr0@21:1/5 to Geoff on Thu Mar 27 09:21:31 2025
    On 26/03/2025 11:05 am, Geoff wrote:
    On 26/03/2025 12:09 pm, a425couple wrote:
    from
    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-closing-in-on-liam-lawson-
    swap-with-yuki-tsunoda-for-japanese-gp/10707118/

    Red Bull closing in on Liam Lawson swap with Yuki Tsunoda for Japanese GP
    Luckless Lawson set for the drop and Tsunoda poised to finally get his
    chance to shine in Red Bull's main team.
    Ben Hunt
    Ben Hunt
    Mar 25, 2025, 3:04 PM


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    Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing
    Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing

    Photo by: Sam Bloxham / Motorsport Images

    Yuki Tsunoda is in line for a call up to Red Bull’s F1 team for next
    week’s Japanese Grand Prix - just as Motorsport exclusively reported
    last Sunday.

    Lawson has come under pressure after making a difficult start to the
    season, crashing out of the Australian GP and was a lowly 15th place
    in China. The New Zealander has struggled to adjust to the RB21, which
    has prone to unpredictable handling and lacking in grip, which is not
    inspiring confidence. His teammate, however, four-time world champion
    Max Verstappen has fared better, but has still conceded he faces a
    mammoth task in retaining the title this season driving the RB21.

    If true, brutal. But 'Li-um' hasn't done much to help himself.

    And it's not really two races, it is one. The opener was simply a random crap-shoot.

    Puts Perez's decline in perspective a bit too, as the car was tuned increasingly towards VERs specific preferences (or abilities).

    History repeating itself, from the Vettel days. RB tends to design it's
    cars around it's No.1 driver's idiosyncrasies.

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  • From Sir Tim@21:1/5 to a425couple@hotmail.com on Thu Mar 27 10:58:46 2025
    Na425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    from https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-closing-in-on-liam-lawson-swap-with-yuki-tsunoda-for-japanese-gp/10707118/

    Red Bull closing in on Liam Lawson swap with Yuki Tsunoda for Japanese GP Luckless Lawson set for the drop and Tsunoda poised to finally get his
    chance to shine in Red Bull's main team.
    Ben Hunt
    Ben Hunt
    Mar 25, 2025, 3:04 PM


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    Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing
    Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing

    Photo by: Sam Bloxham / Motorsport Images

    Yuki Tsunoda is in line for a call up to Red Bull’s F1 team for next week’s Japanese Grand Prix - just as Motorsport exclusively reported
    last Sunday.

    Lawson has come under pressure after making a difficult start to the
    season, crashing out of the Australian GP and was a lowly 15th place in China. The New Zealander has struggled to adjust to the RB21, which has
    prone to unpredictable handling and lacking in grip, which is not
    inspiring confidence. His teammate, however, four-time world champion
    Max Verstappen has fared better, but has still conceded he faces a
    mammoth task in retaining the title this season driving the RB21.


    This is what should have happened before the season started - thoroughly
    bad decision-making by RB.
    Whilst I can’t see Yuki doing any better with the RB21 than Perez did with the RB20 I think this is actually very good news for Lawson. He now has a golden opportunity to vindicate himself and could end up having a really
    good season.


    --
    Sir Tim

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