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  • SPOILER: Chinese GP 2025

    From John Milner@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 23 16:37:18 2025
    DQ'd:

    Hamilton (plank wear), Leclerc and Gasly (underweight car)

    Not a good day for Hamilton...

    "Let Charles past!"
    "Only when he's on my gearbox"
    "Do it this lap!" (leaving the '...or else...' hanging in the air).

    --
    John Milner

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  • From Eric@21:1/5 to John Milner on Sun Mar 23 16:54:47 2025
    On 2025-03-23 10:37am, John Milner wrote:

    SNIP


    I'm going to take this moment to enjoy the fact that Williams is tied
    with Ferrari in the Constructor's championship for the next two weeks.

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  • From Mark Jackson@21:1/5 to Eric on Sun Mar 23 21:03:38 2025
    On 3/23/2025 6:54 PM, Eric wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 10:37am, John Milner wrote:

    SNIP


    I'm going to take this moment to enjoy the fact that Williams is tied
    with Ferrari in the Constructor's championship for the next two weeks.

    Williams *leads* Ferrari on the tiebreaker. Albon's 5th in Australia -
    and for that matter his 7th in China - is better than Ferrari's best
    placing (Leclerc's 8th in Australia).

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right
    to tell people what they do not want to hear.
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  • From Eric@21:1/5 to Mark Jackson on Sun Mar 23 19:08:22 2025
    On 2025-03-23 7:03pm, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 3/23/2025 6:54 PM, Eric wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 10:37am, John Milner wrote:

    SNIP


    I'm going to take this moment to enjoy the fact that Williams is tied
    with Ferrari in the Constructor's championship for the next two weeks.

    Williams *leads* Ferrari on the tiebreaker.  Albon's 5th in Australia -
    and for that matter his 7th in China - is better than Ferrari's best
    placing (Leclerc's 8th in Australia).


    Oh wow, I never thought of that! I'll happily be reminding my
    Ferrari-loving colleague of that fact at work tomorrow.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Eric on Sun Mar 23 19:50:35 2025
    On 3/23/25 15:54, Eric wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 10:37am, John Milner wrote:

    SNIP


    I'm going to take this moment to enjoy the fact that Williams is tied
    with Ferrari in the Constructor's championship for the next two weeks.

    I did some visiting of old times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_Grand_Prix_results

    Oh, Wow. New kid,

    Hülkenberg first drove a Formula One car in a test for Williams in 2007.
    His manager, Willi Weber, had organised the test after failing to
    conclude a deal with Renault boss Flavio Briatore. The two-day test was
    held at the Circuito de Jerez in Spain, and Hülkenberg outpaced
    Williams's driver Kazuki Nakajima, and set laptimes 0.4 seconds slower
    than Nico Rosberg.[13] Hülkenberg's performance at the test led to the Williams team signing him as a test driver, and he competed in several
    test sessions in addition to racing in lower formulae.[13] His test
    contract with Williams was extended for 2009, despite in-season tests
    being banned from that season.[14] Hülkenberg would also act as the
    team's reserve driver, in the event of the regular drivers being unable
    to compete.

    Williams (2010)
    On 2 November 2009, Hülkenberg was confirmed to race for Williams in
    2010.[15] Hülkenberg's teammate for his first season would be the
    experienced driver Rubens Barrichello, who moved from Brawn GP which in
    turn was bought out by Mercedes-Benz.

    Hülkenberg made his debut at the Bahrain Grand Prix,

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  • From Woozy Song@21:1/5 to Eric on Mon Mar 24 12:43:49 2025
    Eric wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 7:03pm, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 3/23/2025 6:54 PM, Eric wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 10:37am, John Milner wrote:

    SNIP


    I'm going to take this moment to enjoy the fact that Williams is tied
    with Ferrari in the Constructor's championship for the next two weeks.

    Williams *leads* Ferrari on the tiebreaker.  Albon's 5th in Australia
    - and for that matter his 7th in China - is better than Ferrari's best
    placing (Leclerc's 8th in Australia).


    Oh wow, I never thought of that! I'll happily be reminding my
    Ferrari-loving colleague of that fact at work tomorrow.

    Getting both cars disqalified must go down in record books.

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  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to John Milner on Mon Mar 24 09:04:04 2025
    On 3/23/25 17:37, John Milner wrote:




























    DQ'd:

    Hamilton (plank wear), Leclerc and Gasly (underweight car)

    Not a good day for Hamilton...

    "Let Charles past!"
    "Only when he's on my gearbox"
    "Do it this lap!" (leaving the '...or else...' hanging in the air).

    Although its a shame to be disqualified, Leclerc should have been
    disqualified for the flex-wing.



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    Amnesty for Snowden
    Rehabilitation for heroes

    Edmund

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  • From Mark Jackson@21:1/5 to Woozy Song on Mon Mar 24 09:13:30 2025
    On 3/24/2025 12:43 AM, Woozy Song wrote:

    Getting both cars disqalified must go down in record books.

    I believe Tyrrell retired that trophy in 1984.

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right
    to tell people what they do not want to hear.
    - George Orwell

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Mark Jackson on Mon Mar 24 09:32:27 2025
    On 3/24/25 06:13, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 3/24/2025 12:43 AM, Woozy Song wrote:

    Getting both cars disqalified must go down in record books.

    I believe Tyrrell retired that trophy in 1984.

    I think that memory 'bb's raining down in pit lane after
    refueling accident' has to go down as real vivid memory.


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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Woozy Song on Mon Mar 24 09:30:07 2025
    On 3/23/25 21:43, Woozy Song wrote:
    Eric wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 7:03pm, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 3/23/2025 6:54 PM, Eric wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 10:37am, John Milner wrote:

    SNIP

    I'm going to take this moment to enjoy the fact that Williams is
    tied with Ferrari in the Constructor's championship for the next two
    weeks.

    Williams *leads* Ferrari on the tiebreaker.  Albon's 5th in Australia
    - and for that matter his 7th in China - is better than Ferrari's
    best placing (Leclerc's 8th in Australia).

    Oh wow, I never thought of that! I'll happily be reminding my Ferrari-
    loving colleague of that fact at work tomorrow.

    Getting both cars disqalified must go down in record books.

    Both disqualified yes, But for different reasons is unusual.

    Surprising to me, Hamilton's plank wear,
    but he seemed to have been over the curbs less than Leclerc.
    And Leclerc underweight, interesting miscalculation.

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 25 11:39:12 2025
    On 24/03/2025 11:50 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 24/03/2025 5:37 am, John Milner wrote:


    DQ'd:

    Hamilton (plank wear), Leclerc and Gasly (underweight car)

    Not a good day for Hamilton...

    "Let Charles past!"
    "Only when he's on my gearbox"
    "Do it this lap!" (leaving the '...or else...' hanging in the air).

    I found it really odd that Leclerc's car was weighed with a new front
    wing. After the accident on the first lap, with the wing flexing so much
    I fully expected a meatball flag when they didn't change the wing during
    the pitstop.

    What do y'all think? I know it wasn't dangerous but the car wasn't
    meeting the specs vis-a-vis flexible aero. It was obviously shedding
    drag at speed while still sitting in it's normal position and providing downforce for slow corners.

    Agreed. Not to mention dangerous, potentially (if not actually)
    contacting the track surface.

    --
    geoff

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  • From John Milner@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 25 13:31:22 2025
    On 24/03/2025 10:50, ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 24/03/2025 5:37 am, John Milner wrote:

    DQ'd:

    Hamilton (plank wear), Leclerc and Gasly (underweight car)

    Not a good day for Hamilton...

    "Let Charles past!"
    "Only when he's on my gearbox"
    "Do it this lap!" (leaving the '...or else...' hanging in the air).

    I found it really odd that Leclerc's car was weighed with a new front
    wing. After the accident on the first lap, with the wing flexing so much
    I fully expected a meatball flag when they didn't change the wing during
    the pitstop.

    Martin Brundle commented on this at the time, on Sky Sports. Apparently
    it's OK under the regs to replace damaged parts before the weigh-in,
    presumably because the loss wasn't intentional.

    Interestingly, the downforce was lost from the front left, which surely
    helped this stressed tyre, thus giving Charles an advantage at towards
    the end.

    What do y'all think? I know it wasn't dangerous but the car wasn't
    meeting the specs vis-a-vis flexible aero. It was obviously shedding
    drag at speed while still sitting in it's normal position and providing downforce for slow corners.


    --
    John Milner

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